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Reasonable Salary for Entry Level Programmers?
An anonymous reader asks: "I will be graduating from college in May with a degree in computer science. I have begun the job search and gone on a few interviews. So far I have gotten two job offers which I am thankful for, but the salary seems low. I am not saying that I am too good to pay my dues and work my way up, but I could make more waiting tables. It is somewhat distressing that I have spent 4 years of college and years before that developing my programming skills. I am not trying to get rich, but I was hoping that the high level of skill required would account for something(no offense intended to waiters). Can anyone give me any insight about what a reasonable starting salary would be, for an entry level software engineer?"
Welcome to the outsourcing world of the George W. Bush economy.
Be lucky you can do the job at all. There are Indians who can and will do it cheaper.
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You have a bachelor in CS. You don't have a high level of skill. I would hire a community college graduate before I hired you, and I have.
Sorry to bust your bubble.
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Considering the current market conditions, I think your salary should probably be about .. 1/12 of a dime.
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I dont know, I started i programming in 95 at 45k a year with no school or previous experience (in a work enviroment) Heck I was a plumber and pipefitter before I decided to be a programmer, actually I had little choice (sons health issues and bringing home hae A C B or CMV home made the doctors very nervous)
I have never hired anyone at under 40 to start if they were good and knew their stuff AND their limitations. I made it a point to never hire anyone with a degree, I feel that 9 times out of 10 even working with them is a problem. Back in 98 or so I was lead developer of about 20 guys at the time, the HR gal hired this dipshit with a degree, I told him to do a task and do it this way. four hours later I stopped and asked wherre it was , it was 20 minutes of code at most. He said It cannot be done that way it will not work , frustrated I said here and leaned over him coded it ran it and tried to show him at which point he turned his head from the screen and stated, it does not work, it cannot work I was taguht in school it would not work if it was done that way therefore it does not work. All the while it was running on his screen. I was purple with anger and fired him a week later. After that I made it a point to hire guys who had REALLY fought their way up through the trenches like I had, I fin them better problem solvers and MUCH more open to alternative ways of doing things. College is for people who cant lear on their own (Doctors being an exception)
So with a degree I would pay would pay low 30's which would take into account you would need a significant amount of retraining, if you didn have a degree 40's . UNLESS you were a worse typist than I am them maybe even 50's , as we all know poor typing skills show a gited programmer
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If you're graduating in May and have ANY job offers in this economy in Comp Sci, you should be ecstatic... There's plenty of experienced people who can't get an interview, much less a job. Stop whining and get over it. Maybe 4-5 years ago you could make 45-55k with a Comp Sci bachelors and no experience, but not today.
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You have a fancy degree.... I am doing one of those too. If you have any real tallent do some contracting. You should have no problem making $60K (US) per year.
By the way, I use to work in a bar for a while... The reason people get paid so much in hospitality is because they can do things that computer nerds can NOT. And most will NEVER be able to. Don't ever under estimate the value of human interaction skills.... maybe that is why you can't get paid enough yourself??