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LUG Pres Resigns Over Military Linux Use

Joe Barr writes "NewsForge is carrying the news that the founder and president of Linux Users Los Angeles (LULA) has resigned because of his opposition to the war in Iraq and the U.S. Armed Forces' use of Linux."

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  1. In other news... by adrianbaugh · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    The ex-president of the LA LUG, having decided that his previous protest didn't go far enough, has given up breathing in protest at the US military's use of oxygen.

    What a wanker.

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  2. Re:Blaming the tool again... by ThePuD · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    actually, he wasn't elected by popular maojority. Gore won the popular vote, and Bush won by winning large states by small margins so that he won by electoral vote. That was the decision that was validated by the supreme court.

  3. This guy is fair by vcbumg2 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I guess this bastard is all for the export of US crypto technology to terrorist states. And I am sure he was outraged by the US export ban on playstations 2 to prevent them to be used as a Linux clusters for whepon research my Iraq and other terrorist states!!

    What a fucking jerkoff

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  4. Re:Blaming the tool again... by b17bmbr · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    i don't hear the left complaing when the same court ruled that two dudes butt-fucking was a constitutionally protected right. and you don't hear the left complaing when a court in Mass. overrules the will of the vast majority of the people and says gays have a right to marry.

    now, i fear a judiciary that has no check or balance. jefferson warned of this repeatedly. and we have seen it totally change our country. for instance, when the supremes decided to start approving fdr's new deal legislation that it had been rejecting, it set a very bad precedent. so now, even though so much of what the gov't does is unconstitutional, it is ingrained in our societal fabric. sad.

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  5. In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny.... by leereyno · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    What a maroon!

    I've always wondered what kinds of drugs most of the current anti-war crowd is on. I've become convinced that they are simply far left anti-conservatives and would bitch about anything that Bush or any other conservative leader did regardless of the outcome. Luckily they are a minority. A very obnoxious and vocal minority, but a minority just the same. Most Americans seem to be driven more by pragmatism than any sort of ideology. This is a wonderful thing since most ideologies are, to a greater or leser degree, fantasies adhered to by people who can't deal with reality. This goes for the right wing as well as the left.

    Lee

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  6. Re:Blaming the tool again... by GypC · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It must be wonderful to be able to excuse one's own moral cowardice with "Shades-of-Gray" rhetoric.

  7. Thank you for your honesty. by lysium · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    we're not going to take shit from people, and we're starting with those that have given us shit.

    So you really don't give a fsck about freedom in rest of the world. So long as everyone recognizies that we (America) are the Alpha Male, you are satisfied. So tell me, are you truly a human being? You sound like a monkey; they are obsessed with dominance games and throwing feces at their enemies, just like you.

    Oh, and thanks for illustrating my point with such a disgusting point of view.

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  8. Re:The reason why proportional voting is bad. by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It gives undue influence to large population centers.

    "Undue influence to large population"? Just what's wrong about people having power? That's what democracy is supposed to be about.

    This is why the Senate has 2 members per state.

    Which was to entice the slave-holding states to join the Union. Not a ringing endorsement.

    It keeps big population centers from running over little ones.

    Conversely, it allows uninhabited desert to run over bustling cities.

    Any system which makes one citizen's vote more powerful than another's is unfair. Dirt shouldn't vote! (Coincidentally, dirt always goes Republican)

  9. Re:Blaming the tool again... by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    One of the states had a problem determining, which group of representatives to send, but the problem was settled according to the laws of the land, and I'm much more inclined to trust handling of it to 9 wise people with decades of legal experience than an enraged geek, whose side happened to lose.
    Oh, yes, 9 "wize" people appointed by the winner's daddy, who trampled the will of hundreds of people arbitrarly deprived of their right of vote thanks to the shenanigans pulled by the winner's brother.

    Sure.

  10. Re:Blaming the tool again... by monkeydo · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    I read your whole statement. I think you are an anti-American conspiracy crazed hippie. Not only that, but you've completely lost any touch with reality that you may have had. I think it's obvious why Newsforge didn't post a link to your article. They were afraid of damaging your credibility:

    The CentCom media blitz about the four contractors killed in Fallouja is just the cover story to prepare the American public to accept the mass murder they have decided is necessary. They say they just want the terrorists who killed and mutilated the bodies of the four armed civilian contractors, i.e. mercenary soldiers. This is a damn lie.


    I once had high hopes for Linux. I felt sure it could make a real contribution to the success of humanity, now more and more I have my doubts. I have a real and growing fear that if the Mr. Smith's of Linux have their way, in the future they will look back and say "Wasn't it nice that so many smart people worked to hard for free to forge their own chains."

    I feel that Lula no longer reflects the vision I have had for it and has in fact belittled itself as an organization for change and progress. I cannot attend Tuesday night's meeting, in fact I would be ashamed to in view of what our country is doing in Iraq. Therefore I am resigning as the president of Linux Users Los Angeles effective 7:00PM April 20, 2004.

    On Rights and the Mailing List

    Rights. You have rights. But you have responsibilities too. And you have no right to sit on your ass while your country commits atrocities.

    Today we remember the Holocaust. The real shame of the Germans was that they allowed a bad leader to hijack the very considerable resources of their country to do some really horrible things while they when on with user group meetings and such as usual.


    So sorry that Linux isn't the, "Tool with vast potential for the liberation of humanity." I know it's a dissapointment, but please find a good shrink and get yourself on medication. Maybe someday you'll figure out that we live in the real world where bad things happen, people die, and the Matrix was just a movie.
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  11. Re:Blaming the tool again... by dresgarcia · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    So what you are saying is we should let these people who have as jaded a view of the world as you do continue to rain havoc in iraqi cities. Creating chaos and killing their own countrymen?

    Did you see the carbombs that insurgents set off in basra today? Are we really that bad for trying to stop the people who are doing this? A BUSLOAD OF KIDS BURNED TO DEATH AND YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT *WE* ARE COMMITING THE WARCRIMES?? I don't support the way bush did this, but you do understand that as an american if we pull out of iraq it will be worse for iraqis than it would be for us. Chaos would reign in iraq with multiple groups most liekly wagin civil war and violently deciding who gets war.

    Why don't you do your best to speed up the end of this war and go drive trucks in iraq. We'll see how you feel when you are the next possible target to have your humvee rpg and your corpse dragged through the streets.

    Innocent civilians die in war. Its sad but true. We are not targeting innocent civilians in iraq.