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Salon Interviews Neal Stephenson

edibleplastic writes "Salon has a great interview with Neal Stephenson, author of such science fiction favorites as Snow Crash, Cryptonomicon, and Quicksilver. He discusses his views on the scientific community (both past and present), the world of science fiction, and writing in general. "I think there are common threads between writing and programming... All I'm saying is that the thing you're making -- the novel or the computer program -- has got a very complicated and finely wrought hierarchical structure to it. The structure has to work right or the whole thing fails. But the only way you can work on it is by hitting one character at a time...""

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  1. So much for metaphors by tgv · · Score: 3, Funny

    And the mind of the reader will crash if you make a small mistake?

    1. Re:So much for metaphors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      No, what will happen is that the book won't make sense or will be boring, eg "Quicksilver" and "The Confusion".

  2. the article is too long by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    and I don't like to read.

    Does he say when the second book in the Baroque series is coming out? Quicksilver seemed to end a little flat but left me wanting more.

  3. Reuseable code... by skidoo2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...Is the bane of too many crap writers.

  4. Writing CAN BE like Programming. by Allen+Zadr · · Score: 3, Funny

    Maybe he writes "choose your own ending" books under a pseudonym.

    • You think it's funny and laugh, turn to page 4
    • You are scared and slowly back away, turn to page 83
    • You are suspicious but decide to play along, turn to page 45
    • You whole heartedly agree, turn to page 20
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  5. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Why do people treat fiction authors liek gurus?

    I dunno, maybe people like you find their spelling godlike compared to your own abilities.

  6. The short version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "All I'm saying is that the thing you're making -- the novel or the computer program -- has got a very complicated and finely wrought hierarchical structure to it. The structure has to work right or the whole thing fails. But the only way you can work on it is by hitting one character at a time..."

    Or to put a Tao spin on it ...

    "The finest program begins with a single keystroke."

  7. So... by xconslash · · Score: 4, Funny

    One character at a time. Does that mean writing and programming are both O(n)?

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  8. Re:Writing is like Programming? by Gyan · · Score: 3, Funny

    (for first_book=SUCCESS; current_book!=FAILURE; current_book=rehash(prior_book)}

  9. I'll only read the article by imadork · · Score: 3, Funny

    if someone assures me that is has a @$^@$%&$ ending!

    1. Re:I'll only read the article by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Funny
      > if someone assures me that is has a @$^@$%&$ ending!

      Of course it has an ending. You set up this recursive loop, see, and you have it going around and around. And you have this other thread running in the background. And it spawns two child processes. And then you do a malloc(), and you say "Holy Fark! Only three pages free!". So you exit(0) and kill -9 everything.

      Halting problem, my ass. All Stephenson novels halt. You even get advanced warning when you realize that you can feel your right forefinger and your right thumb through the last couple of pages! What more could you ask for?

      (Disclaimer: I love Stephenson's novels. I despise the abrupt endings, though. I hope for the sake of Mrs. Stephenson that he doesn't fuck like he writes. If he does fuck like he writes, would she please enclue him? It might improve his writing!)

  10. Snowcrash vs Cryptomicon : WWF final by ishmaelflood · · Score: 4, Funny

    a) C is twice as heavy at least, so in a free for all wrestling match it will win

    b) C is funnier than S

    c) S has the best shaggy dog story (the fight in the mall)

    d) C has the best sidebars. The breakfast cereal one, in particular.

    e) S is a bit, well, dull. Software hackers (or pizza delivery people) might be very interesting to themselves, but entrepeneurs are more exciting to read about for the rest of us.

    I make that 4:1 in favour of the current heavyweight, Mr Cryptonomicon.

    Fix! fix!

  11. Re:Writing != Programming by sbma44 · · Score: 5, Funny
    You're absolutely right. A program can be beautiful, and its creators can take pride in it. This is the same pride a bricklayer might take in a well-built wall. That doesn't mean it's a creative endeavor.

    I think it's hilarious that the article includes an edited version of Stephenson's comments comparing programming the writing. He was led into that question by the interviewer and he heavily qualified his answer, to the point where it basically boiled down to "both involve typing". Yet we Slashdotters are ready to jump all over it -- "OMG Neal and I are exactly the same we'll be best friends 4EVER!!!"

    Stephenson's awesome: an entertaining writer and a geek to boot. Let's not forget which one comes first.

  12. Coupland & Oblig. Simpsons Ref. by Chalybeous · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Hi, I'm Douglas Coupland. You may remember me from such books as Generation X, Microserfs and All Families are Psychotic"
    </troy mcclure> ;-)
    The Coupland File, for more info.

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  13. Re:What? by Mark+Hood · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why do people treat fiction authors liek gurus? I saw a robotics aritcleon here the other day where people were seriously talking about Asimov's 3 laws of robotics like they were actually applicable to real life.

    Maybe because they can spell and punctuate properly? :)

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  14. Re:Writing != Programming by frs_rbl · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...Neal Stephenson is a key contributor to the Linux kernel...

    You mean the Finux kernel (read at the end of the article)

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  15. If Cryptonomicon was "Good" by JAZ · · Score: 1, Funny

    If Cryptonomicon was "merely good" I'm seriously scared of Quicksilver.

    Cryptonomicon was the first (and so far only) Stephenson book I've tried and I just found it to bad to be able to read. It seem like ever other page had either a metaphor or simile that was borrowed from one of those deliberately bad writing contest.

    It's been a few years, but I remember a few of them like: ...he swiped his credit card like an assassin swiping a razor across his victims neck. ...the sailors let out a collective sigh like the entire ship had just ejaculated.

    The story was almost interesting, but the delivery was so bad I gave up about 1/5 of the way thru.

    What is it I'm missing that folks like about Stephenson? Is it just that he hits on geek subject matter?

    Maybe I just don't get it.

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  16. Re:One character at a time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Or ham fists...

  17. Re:Neal Stephenson... by An.+(Coward) · · Score: 3, Funny

    Except at the end of a program, you have close all your open brackets.

    He does that. It just looks like }}}}}}}}.

  18. Re:Writing is like Programming... by wintermind · · Score: 2, Funny

    You correct your LaTeX.

  19. ObSimpsons by rsadelle · · Score: 2, Funny

    Lisa: Can you tell me what happens at the end of the series?
    J.K. Rowling, increasingly annoyed: He grows up and marries you. Is that what you want to hear?
    Lisa, dreamily: Yes.

  20. Re:Writing is like Programming... by sdcharle · · Score: 2, Funny

    Then you call the book 'Finnegan's Wake'.

  21. Re:Science fiction? by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Funny

    You basically have to call them "Science Fiction" because there's no section in the store for "Natural Philosophy Fiction".

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  22. Re:The showdown IS closing open brackets by M.+Baranczak · · Score: 2, Funny

    this is like Darth Vader hunting for the Holy Grail!

    Quiet, fool! You don't want to give George Lucas any ideas.

  23. Description of the spoon by attercoppe · · Score: 3, Funny


    I woke my wife up while reading in bed last night and giggling at his description of the spoon.

    Now there you go. That's the kind of person that identifies with the nerdy kinds of obsessive/compulsive behavior and intense attention to minutiae that Stephenson can imbue his characters with, as well as the geeky aspects of the characters and overall story. I think people who are nerds will appreciate the highly detailed and circumlocutive descriptions and sequences. Geeks will enjoy the technical descriptions of concepts that they are not familiar with (and perhaps of those which they are). Those of us who are nerds and geeks will really get it, and see ourselves in both the instructor and the instructed when Stephenson exposits through alluding dialogue. We've been the expert, we've been the novice. We will be thankful for being made to follow these often a-mazing intimations and actually think, rather than being force-fed the point like viewers of most TV sitcoms.

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