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Akamai -- The Other Huge Distributed System

Frisky070802 writes "Technology Review, the MIT alumni magazine, has an article by Simson Garfinkel that compares the huge distributed systems run by Google and Akamai and speculates that Google might even consider buying Akamai. It also discusses the flame-out of Akamai after its tremendous IPO."

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  1. Hmm... by Xenographic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It also discusses the flame-out of Akamai after its tremendous IPO.

    More reason to hope Google doesn't have an IPO?

    Granted, I'm not convinced that an IPO would necessarily be a bad thing for Google (and I imagine that it might give a significant financial windfall for the current stockholders). Even so, I can imagine an IPO creating more trepidation that Google might, in the future, abandon its "don't be evil" policy and become a more "normal" company in that regard...

    Which is probably a pretty sad commentary about what we consider to be "normal" for companies these days... :/

  2. Akamai is still losing money by alen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I did a quick look up of their finances and they are still losing money. I wonder how long they can keep going like this without being bought out?

  3. Searching by yourself is futile... by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 4, Interesting

    10,000+ servers!!!

    WOW!! 6 years ago Google was an ity bity startup in someones garage.
    A testimony to the American Dream or a fine example of monopoly at work? [OK there not 100%, but neither is MS]

    Paranoia check? How much of that 4+ petabytes is devoted to YOU? :E

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  4. Re:You don't know how To Tell The Truth! by Otter · · Score: 2, Interesting
    So, if you pull a bunch of back of the envelope numbers from multiple presentations by multiple Google folks at different times they don't add up? Yes, numbers in their SEC filings will be more exact than that. There's no scandal.

    Every Slashdot story about a Microsoft bug declares it proof of the inferiority of closed source; every Linux bug is proof of the superiority of open source. You don't see Taco being dragged off to share a cell with Martha Stewart.

    In any case, Google's product is search results while Akamai's is bandwidth. It's not astonishing that Akamai is more precise about something that's the core of their service but just a fun footnote at Google.

  5. More power to Akamai! by GillBates0 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I discovered the power of Akamai last year during the "a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/cwc2003/default .stm">2003 Cricket World Cup. A company called and the DD/NOW tied up to webcast around 50 eight-ten hour long cricket matches live last May.

    I was amazed with the quality of the video - almost no latency (when compared to simultaneous TV broadcast) and very high resolution. Some investigation revealed that they were caching video off the local Akamai servers in the area. Akamai is underrated for sure - atleast compared to Google but they have the POWER!

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  6. messed that up.... by GillBates0 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I discovered the power of Akamai last year during the 2003 Cricket World Cup. A company called Wisden and DD/NOW tied up to webcast around 50 eight-ten hour long cricket matches live last May.

    I was amazed with the quality of the video - almost no latency (when compared to simultaneous TV broadcast) and very high resolution. Some investigation revealed that they were caching video off the local Akamai servers in the area. Akamai is underrated for sure - atleast compared to Google but they have the POWER!

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  7. The article misses the point by Arch_dude · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Akamai's fundamental premis is flawed. The premis is that core bandwidth is scarce, so high-hit web pages should be replicated "locally." Therefore, Akamai servers are scattered all over the place.

    By contrast, Google has a whole bunch of computers in each of a very few places. This completely changes the economics.

    The reason Akamai's premis is flawed is simple: core bandwidth is cheap, because the core was overbuilt during the bubble and because of the incredible advances in core technologies. By contrast, the last mile is still constrained, primarily because of monopolies and politics.

    The effect of this is that once your packet gets from your house to the first router, the rest of the internet is all effectively an equal cost from you.

  8. obvious to everybody in the room... by dcfix · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...he repeated that figure of 1,000 queries per second--but he said that the measure was made at 2:00 a.m. on December 25, 2001. His point, obvious to everybody in the room, is that even by November 2002, Google was doing a lot more than 1,000 queries per second--just how many more, though, was anybody's guess.

    What's obvious to me is that the metrics were taken at 2am on Christmas morning... not that they were taken a year earlier.

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  9. September 11th, 2001 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Akamai co-founder and chief technology officer Daniel Lewin died in the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. He was a passenger on American Airlines Flight 11 when it crashed into the World Trade Center north tower.

    Think that had any negative effect on Akamai's fortune?

  10. ping www.google.com by Knights+who+say+'INT · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hmmm.
    # ping www.google.com

    PING www.google.akadns.net (216.239.51.104): 56 data bytes
    64 bytes from 216.239.51.104: icmp_seq=0 ttl=239 time=289.6 ms
    64 bytes from 216.239.51.104: icmp_seq=1 ttl=239 time=251.1 ms
    64 bytes from 216.239.51.104: icmp_seq=2 ttl=239 time=278.4 ms
    64 bytes from 216.239.51.104: icmp_seq=3 ttl=239 time=298.3 ms
    64 bytes from 216.239.51.104: icmp_seq=4 ttl=239 time=256.9 ms

  11. Slashdot needs Akamai by muck1969 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For all the sites that have been slashdotted into oblivion, it would neat to have Akamai cache the target site and have Slashdot link via Akamai.

    Maybe I'm talkin' out of my arse and this isn't possible. It sounds plausible to me ... or maybe it's a money issue. I dunno. Anyone able to confirm this?

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  12. Re:or you could actually read the article... by great+throwdini · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The salesman mentioned that Mr. Lewin actually died before the plane hit the building, as there is a recording of a stewardess phoning someone that "9B just slit the throat of 10B". Lewin was sitting in 10B, and someone with an Arabic name, one of the hijackers, was in 9B.

    Actually, according to reports, he was shot. The FAA draft memo says as much. However, the FAA's final draft omits mention of gunfire.

  13. If those numbers are correct.... by stienman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Assuming those numbers are correct, and assuming they use several year old algorithms:

    Google can break an RSA-512 key. 12 times a day.

    It would take them 8 months to break an RSA-1024 key.

    Of course this glosses over some of the technical difficulties (such as memory bandwidth, RAM, etc) but the interesting thing is that if they directed their gaze towards a problem of for even an hour, they could solve some truly monumental problems.

    But, according to Slashdot, Google is good today, not evil, so we can expect them not to use their power for bad.

    -Adam

  14. Re:They're not going to merge, they can't. by DA-MAN · · Score: 2, Interesting

    According to this link, Google is not one of their customers.

    Where the hell are people getting this info from? When I whois google.com I see the following:

    Registrant:
    Google Inc. (DOM-258879)
    2400 E. Bayshore Pkwy Mountain View CA 94043 US

    Domain Name: google.com

    Registrar Name: Alldomains.com
    Registrar Whois: whois.alldomains.com
    Registrar Homepage: http://www.alldomains.com

    Administrative Contact:
    DNS Admin (NIC-1340142) Google Inc.
    2400 E. Bayshore Pkwy Mountain View CA 94043 US
    dns-admin@google.com +1.6503300100 Fax- +1.6506181499
    Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
    DNS Admin (NIC-1340144) Google Inc.
    2400 E. Bayshore Pkwy Mountain View CA 94043 US
    dns-admin@google.com +1.6503300100 Fax- +1.6506181499

    Created on..............: 1997-Sep-15.
    Expires on..............: 2011-Sep-14.
    Record last updated on..: 2003-Apr-07 10:42:46.

    Domain servers in listed order:

    NS3.GOOGLE.COM 216.239.36.10
    NS4.GOOGLE.COM 216.239.38.10
    NS1.GOOGLE.COM 216.239.32.10
    NS2.GOOGLE.COM 216.239.34.10

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  15. Use Freecache by tepples · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Thanks to archive.org, you too can join in on the caching fun! If you want to post a web page's URL to Slashdot without having it, um, Slashdotted, you could use Freecache. If you run a major ISP or university IT department, Freecache could use you.