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The Lyrids Are Coming!

SeaDour writes "The year's first meteor shower, the Lyrids, will peak in the pre-dawn hours of April 22nd when the Earth plows through the debris trail of Comet Thatcher at a relative velocity of 49 km/s (110,000 mph). Lyrids usually aren't as numerous as other showers (such as the famed Leonids), but they're well-known for their spectacular tails; you can expect to see about 5-20 meteors per hour, depending on the severity of your local light pollution. Unfortunately, my current location in the midwest under stormy skies puts me at a bit of a disposition, but hopefully some other Slashdotters can share their observations with us tomorrow."

186 comments

  1. Well, if you host a dinner party to watch them... by SnappingTurtle · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... just be sure there isn't a dead seal nearby. And that you have permission to use the house you're in.

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  2. Sooner warning would have been nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Err... do you think this article could have been posted, say, yesterday?

    1. Re:Sooner warning would have been nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh you big fat geek. How am I supposed to invite over the ladies to cuddle up with when they're all sleeping already, and would be pissed if I woke them up for anything?

    2. Re:Sooner warning would have been nice by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, it's far too late to order a few million nano-Bruce Willis clones to save the Earth from all those grain-of-sand impacts. We're doomed!

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    3. Re:Sooner warning would have been nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You are (allegedly) having some lady friend(s ha!) over, and are going to get up to watch the METEOR SHOWER, and you're calling me a big fat geek?

      Well...well....my Level 478 wizard with +42 dexterity could cast a really nasty spell on you, and I have more comic books than you! Oh, and my Star Wars figures are in mint condition (unlike yours), as are my Transformers, and I installed Linux on my toaster. Stick that in your pipe, GEEK BOY.

    4. Re:Sooner warning would have been nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      damn americans

  3. Well... by Orblivion · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I have just one thing to say about that.

  4. I'd love to post my pics but... by darthcamaro · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    My server could never withstand /.'ing and i don't want to be one of those lamers that posts a link that can't handle the traffic. ... I got some great Orionid and Perseid shots last yr too...

    1. Re:I'd love to post my pics but... by baximus · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you're looking for a place to host your stuff, check out PlanetMirror - can't hurt to send 'em an email. support (AT) planetmirror.com

    2. Re:I'd love to post my pics but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, come on, everybody's doing it.

      Orionoid and Perseid photos
      Posted by timothy on Thursday April 22, @09:28AM

      from the link-at-own-risk dept.
      Anonymous Coward writes Oh, holy crap dude! Has this guy gone insane! This totally crazy and whacky guy Darthcamaro has taken photographs of Orionid and Perseid and it's totally out of control! Wild and whacky! He's crazy! Insane! Wild! Whacky, yet again! I've never met him, either!

  5. Damn Storms. by thadeusg · · Score: 1

    I'm in the midwest also, it was hailing a little bit ago.

    The thing that pisses me off is that I live about 30 miles from the nearest _town_ so I would have had an awesome show. Pity.

    1. Re:Damn Storms. by Shakrai · · Score: 1
      The thing that pisses me off is that I live about 30 miles from the nearest _town_ so I would have had an awesome show. Pity.

      I missed the Northern Lights about six times a few months ago when it seemed like /. had an article about them every other day. Every time it happened we had a complete overcast. That just a little bit demoralizing as I've never seen them in my entire life. Guess I'll still have to go to Alaska after all.

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    2. Re:Damn Storms. by thadeusg · · Score: 1

      I had never even seen the Milky Way until I moved out here, much less the Northern Lights...so I'll probably end up going to Alaska as well. ;)

    3. Re:Damn Storms. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? Everywhere I look, I can see nothing BUT the freakin' Milky Way.

    4. Re:Damn Storms. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? Everywhere I look, I can see nothing BUT the freakin' Milky Way.

      Viger, is that you?

    5. Re:Damn Storms. by core+plexus · · Score: 1
      I live in south-central Alaska, and just went outside. It's still dusk here (22:44), and I can see that it is cloudy. Still, because I live 20 miles from town, I get a great show every night except for May through August (not much night then). Sometimes friends visiting during the winter cannot believe all the satellites crossing the sky, and how many stars there are. When I build my next house I'm going to include a glass dome or something.

      -cp-

    6. Re:Damn Storms. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I live in south-central Alaska

      Is that where all the gang-banger Alaskians live?

  6. A bit of a disposition? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Unfortunately, my current location in the midwest under stormy skies puts me at a bit of a disposition,

    Wow, that's really condition. I feel really emotion for you, salutation. Perhaps the condition will become adjective, and you'll be affected.

    1. Re:A bit of a disposition? by jte · · Score: 1

      lol...yes!

    2. Re:A bit of a disposition? by SeaDour · · Score: 1

      Erk, sorry about that. Thanks for being light-hearted about it. :)

    3. Re:A bit of a disposition? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "Once in a while I like to masturbate a new word into my vocabulary, even if i don't completely understand what it means"

    4. Re:A bit of a disposition? by jte · · Score: 1

      s'ok, i remember thinking a girls period had something to do with getting to class. :)

    5. Re:A bit of a disposition? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, thank YOU for having a good sense of humor and seeing that it was light hearted. :)

    6. Re:A bit of a disposition? by $exyNerdie · · Score: 1

      Dictionary Information: Definition Disposition

      Check out item number 5 on the list!!

    7. Re:A bit of a disposition? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me too, but i usually end up flushing mine. :->

    8. Re:A bit of a disposition? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but it needs an associated adjective to make any sense, otherwise it's like saying "Watch out, he's in a mood".

    9. Re:A bit of a disposition? by DJStealth · · Score: 1

      I hate to get into a technical grammar discussion, but other than a couple of missing commas, that sentence does seem to be grammatically correct.

      "Unfortunately, my current location in the midwest, under stormy skies, puts me in a bit of a disposition."

    10. Re:A bit of a disposition? by AhBeeDoi · · Score: 1

      Both the comma placement and usage of "disposition" are fine. Those who exist on nits will starve with nothing but air in their stomachs.

    11. Re:A bit of a disposition? by spectral · · Score: 2, Informative

      actually, it's rather commonly understood that when someone says someone else is in 'a mood', that said mood is certainly not a good one. So even THAT sentence is fine, or at least understood by most.

    12. Re:A bit of a disposition? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe, but 'in a mood' is equivalent to moody, which is an adjective. Bad example. 'One of his moods' is a not unheard of expression.

    13. Re:A bit of a disposition? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've never heard anyone describe somebody as being "in a mood" (that's why I used it as an example), but I suppose it can be understood. However, it's certainly not gramatically correct.

    14. Re:A bit of a disposition? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've never heard anyone describe somebody as being "in a mood"

      Go out more often.

    15. Re:A bit of a disposition? by TheLink · · Score: 1

      The sentence misuses disposition.

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    16. Re:A bit of a disposition? by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      Unless he's pissed about it.

    17. Re:A bit of a disposition? by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      Webster's Unabridged - mood:
      5) "A state of sullenness, gloom, or bad temper."

      "He's in a mood" = "He's pissed off"

      Certainly gramatically correct. Always dictionary-check first.

    18. Re:A bit of a disposition? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, your usage of commas is incorrect. In fact, it changes the meaning of the sentence. Is "under stormy skies" a location in the midwest?

      OP's sentence was 100% correct.

    19. Re:A bit of a disposition? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it might be an American expression, which would explain it.

    20. Re:A bit of a disposition? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Webster's is an American-specific dictionary. I'm not American, which would explan why I haven't heard the phrase used before.

    21. Re:A bit of a disposition? by DJStealth · · Score: 1

      Yes, "under stormy skies" is a perfectly valid location; just as valid as saying, "I'll wait for you by the car," where "the car" is a location in "the midwest."

  7. Sheer beauty by DebianRcksLindowsLie · · Score: 2, Informative

    This show is worth a watch! It's not as high-profile as the August show, but MAN it's spectacular!

    1. Re:Sheer beauty by DarwinDan · · Score: 2, Funny
      Don't you mean...
      man spectacular
      Just a bit of "open-source" humor :)
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    2. Re:Sheer beauty by flewp · · Score: 1

      I think you mean " Just a bit of open-source "humor" "

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  8. Ho hum by l810c · · Score: 1, Interesting
    Meteor showers used to be cool years ago when I used to take drugs and watch them.

    Now that I've quit all that stuff, they just don't excite me anymore :(

    1. Re:Ho hum by WwWonka · · Score: 3, Funny

      Meteor showers used to be cool years ago when I used to take drugs and watch them. Now that I've quit all that stuff, they just don't excite me anymore :(

      Funny, now that you've stopped taking drugs you aren't very exciting either.

    2. Re:Ho hum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Then take drugs again. If it's the only way things in life are beautiful, wouldn't it be worthwhile? Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm horribly wrong and downing cehmicals to paint a better picture of reality is against the order of things. But I think maybe the mind expanders and the trippers and the pot smokers are on to something. When you can't sit under a tree on a sunny day anymore and not think of everything, have it all flood your mind, can't stop thinking of the scores of people dying, suffering, screaming out in pain for reasons so totally inane that you can't conceive how it can happen. When you don't see blue skies anymore, but refracted light, or leaves hanging from a branch without all the equations that tell you how exactly that leaf remains where it is, how it flutters in the wind, all of its coefficients and strengths and the exact moment it will finally let go and fall to the soil below. When you have to cover your eyes but still you see it all, and you end up crying about the things everyone else can seem to forget. Maybe then its needed; something to just wash it away, blank the canvas and put back all the colors, even if only for a little while. Temporary ignorance. Temporary peace. Just a little while to sit down and watch the lights in the sky, and think of nothing else at all.

    3. Re:Ho hum by the_real_t3kn0lu5t · · Score: 1

      Please, parent, let me know who you are.. I simply must know who has this connection with me.

    4. Re:Ho hum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you take better quality drugs. You don't need Meteors Showers, not even Stars to get it.

    5. Re:Ho hum by saned · · Score: 1

      Coincidence?
      I was out in the patio an hour ago here in west Los Angeles when a bright light in the sky caught my attention. I thought it was a star or a plane passing by (tens an hour), but it was moving slower than a plane and it was really bright, I would say brighter than Vega, and white.
      It was high in the sky, moving north really slow. In about 5 seconds it started dimming and couple of more seconds later it vanished completely.
      All this before I got to hit my pipe for the first time tonight...

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    6. Re:Ho hum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One does not require the use of hallucinogens in order view the beauty available all around.

      I have not used drugs. Ever. I have no need.

  9. Thatcher by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    The year's first meteor shower, the Lyrids, will peak in the pre-dawn hours of April 22nd when the Earth plows through the debris trail of Comet Thatcher...

    I've been waiting years to see this... Thatcher falling from the sky in a ball of flames!

  10. What about the 'rest of world' category? by caitsith01 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Will these be visible from, say, Australia, where I live?

    Not that I wish to invite flaming, but 'before dawn' is a highly relative concept for a site like ./ which has readers all over the world. I wish posts like this would give info about other time zones/longitutes/latitudes or at least acknowledge that they are referring to US times and locations.

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    1. Re:What about the 'rest of world' category? by Cali+Thalen · · Score: 2, Informative

      "The Lyrids are best seen between about 2 a.m. and daybreak local time, regardless of where you live, astronomers say"

      Missed the 3rd paragraph I take it?

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    2. Re:What about the 'rest of world' category? by Sage+Gaspar · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hehe, I usually try to stay away... but RTFA!

      The Lyrids are best seen between about 2 a.m. and daybreak local time, regardless of where you live, astronomers say.

      City and suburban dwellers will see significantly fewer of the meteors than those in rural areas away from all light pollution. The shower is not visible from the Southern Hemisphere.

    3. Re:What about the 'rest of world' category? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meteor showers look best just before dawn wherever you are on the planet.

    4. Re:What about the 'rest of world' category? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tried that. The look great if you're not quite on the planet - try jumping while you watch them :-p

    5. Re:What about the 'rest of world' category? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would require following the links and not just getting a good overview from the overview

    6. Re:What about the 'rest of world' category? by Xybot · · Score: 3, Funny

      Southern hemisphere won't see anything, apart from the usual bunyips, wobbegongs and taniwhas

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    7. Re:What about the 'rest of world' category? by uberdave · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It will take a couple of days for the Earth to pass through the comet trail, thus every longitude will have the opportunity of viewing the show. I can't speak for latitude. If the comet was coming from above the earth's orbital plane as it headed sunward, southern latitudes would be out of luck for most of the show. Gravity might bend a few your way though.

    8. Re:What about the 'rest of world' category? by sould · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hehe, I usually try to stay away... but RTFA!

      Except the FAIW

      The shower is not visible from the Southern Hemisphere

      From the

      The Lyrids are a northern shower, but can be observed by most mainland Australians. The best time to observe the Lyrids is in the morning between 2.00-5.00 am. However, the Lyrids low rates, combined with their closeness to the horizon, mean that few meteors are likely to be seen. To see the Lyrids, look to the north in the morning sky. About two handspans above the northern horizon is the bright, blue-white star alpha Lyra, the brightest star near the northern horizon. The Lyrid radiant is just above it and to the left by around a handspan.

    9. Re:What about the 'rest of world' category? by sould · · Score: 1

      Ahem! That should've read:

      From the excellent Southern Skywatch Page

      Forgot to close the link (doh!)

    10. Re:What about the 'rest of world' category? by tornado2258 · · Score: 1
      How do you measure positions in the sky in "handspans" ignoring the fact that no too hands are the same size (there are abouts in there anyway) with ni indication about how far from your eye your hand should be held that kind of measurement is completely useless.


      It's not like you can actually put your hand against the sky.

    11. Re:What about the 'rest of world' category? by jgoemat · · Score: 3, Informative
      Meteor showers usually originate from one point in the sky. For example, the Leonids originate from the Leo constellation. The Lyrids originate from the constellation lyra, which should be in a good position in the sky from 2:00 am to 5:00 am no matter where on earth you live, just like the sun will be in a good position in the sky from 11:00 am to 1:00 pm no matter where on earth you live.

      Most meteor showers have a "peak" though where the earth passes through the densest part of the comet's trail. For this meteor shower, they don't appear to know when the peak will fall. For the Leonids the last couple of years they tried to predict, and that was a certain time that would be different in different time zones.

      Happy skywatching!

    12. Re:What about the 'rest of world' category? by tiled_rainbows · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hold your hand out at arm's length. People with big hands generally have longer arms, so the degrees of sky covered by your hand at arm's length should be roughly the same for anyone.

    13. Re:What about the 'rest of world' category? by ozbird · · Score: 3, Informative

      Southern hemisphere won't see anything

      Really? We've got the Pi-Puppids plus a circumpolar "bright" comet, C/2001 Q4 (NEAT).

      Also, the Lyrids are not the first meteor shower of the year; the first of several showers before the Lyrids are the Quadrantids. Downunder, but not left out...

    14. Re:What about the 'rest of world' category? by BoogieChile · · Score: 1

      Well, Red Shift is telling me that Lyra is about a handspan above the horizon to my north-east now, so by fourish it'll be well above the horizon for me. I live about halfway down the east coast.

  11. Wow. by nickochee · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Every year in April Earth plows through Thatcher's dusty debris stream with a relative velocity of 49 km/s (110,000 mph). Meteoroids (most no bigger than grains of sand)..."

    Speeds up to 110,000 miles per hour coming from meteoroids always remind me of how fast we're traveling on this pale blue dot.

    1. Re:Wow. by loyalsonofrutgers · · Score: 1

      It's all relative.

    2. Re:Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
      And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour,
      That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned,
      A sun that is the source of all our power.
      The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see
      Are moving at a million miles a day
      In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour,
      Of the galaxy we call the 'Milky Way'.

      Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars.
      It's a hundred thousand light years side to side.
      It bulges in the middle, sixteen thousand light years thick,
      But out by us, it's just three thousand light years wide.
      We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point.
      We go 'round every two hundred million years,
      And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
      In this amazing and expanding universe.

      The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding
      In all of the directions it can whizz
      As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know,
      Twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.
      So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
      How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
      And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
      'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.

    3. Re:Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pale blue dot! Shit, I'm gonna cry!
      Bawl!

  12. It's all fun and games until one hits Earth by ObviousGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It makes a little more sense to me to search for our "LEV meteor/asteroid" in these known meteor shower zones. A rogue asteroid hitting the earth would require the overcoming of astronomical odds on par with hitting an incoming missile with an interceptory missile. Since we know and can track these meteor showers, I imagine that scanning the areas in which the space debris exists is the first place we ought to be looking for life-ending rocks.

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    1. Re:It's all fun and games until one hits Earth by theatre_freak · · Score: 1

      I'm no astronomer, but it really isn't the bands of meteorites that we really need to worry about - they're washed up meteors that have been busted up by the Justice Department of the universe. It's mostly space junk. It is the large, unbroken chunks flying in trajectories which we don't know that we need to worry about.

  13. So THAT'S what those things were!?! by Gunfighter · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think I saw a few of those suckers streaking across the sky a night or two ago. It was the first time I'd seen more than one "shooting star" in a night. I guess I was wrong. It's not an extraterrestrial planetary attack plan in progress.

    /me removes tinfoil hat

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    1. Re:So THAT'S what those things were!?! by BlueOtto · · Score: 1

      I guess I was wrong. It's not an extraterrestrial planetary attack plan in progress.

      Who says it's not just an elaborate plan -- calling this "planetary attack plan" these interesting meteor shower called the Lyrids??

    2. Re:So THAT'S what those things were!?! by Gunfighter · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dangit... I just took the trash out. Now I have to sculpt a new tinfoil hat from scratch.

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    3. Re:So THAT'S what those things were!?! by parksie · · Score: 1

      Hey man, turn the lights on.

      What d'ya mean they're already on? :|

  14. Spaceweather hurting? by GlassUser · · Score: 1

    The link looks down and someone mentioned something about it too. Might just be my connection here though. Coincidentally enough, I looked it up this afternoon. Unfortunately, I think Houston will have too much cloud cover to see anything.

  15. Re:Well, if you host a dinner party to watch them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought it was funny, but I guess there probably aren't a lot of /. readers who watch Fraiser.

  16. Timing by TheJavaGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Couldn't this article have been posted earlier, and not a few hours before the action.

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    1. Re:Timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      You're new here, aren't you?

    2. Re:Timing by rfovell · · Score: 1

      Couldn't this article have been posted earlier, and not a few hours before the action.

      Don't worry, the dupe will be posted next week. That will be 8592 hours before the action returns next year. Surely, that is sufficient advance notice.

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    3. Re:Timing by canthusus · · Score: 1
      Couldn't this article have been posted earlier, and not a few hours before the action.

      What do you mean a few hours before the action? It was posted 30 minutes after dawn where I am, you insensitive clod!

  17. not 49 kms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Earth's velocity is 29km/s, or ~65,000 mph.

    1. Re:not 49 kms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They said "relative" speed. The space debris is moving also.

  18. ... in the mid west by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Heeey maaa! It's dem aaaaylien rain.

  19. Forgive my ignorance by caitsith01 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Being a non-astronomer I guess I assumed that you would have to wait until the side of the earth you were on faced towards the area of space where the comet was. How does someone on the far side of the earth see the meteors? Does the fact that they are visible at or before dawn across the world imply that the comet's position is relatively static compared to the position of the sun?

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  20. My bad by caitsith01 · · Score: 1

    I guess the old skim reading got a little out of hand. I saw "about 2 a.m. and daybreak local time, regardless of where you live" and assumed this referred to the US, as I was unaware that meteors are visible from all around the world at different times (see below).

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    1. Re:My bad by AhBeeDoi · · Score: 1
      I saw "about 2 a.m. and daybreak local time, regardless of where you live" and assumed this referred to the US, as I was unaware that meteors are visible from all around the world at different times
      My understanding is that it is pretty much correct. The Earth is actually passing through a trail of particles left by a comet and would be totally engulfed. Many of these particles may only be the size of a grain of sand and may not be visible when they burn up in the atmosphere. With a the moon in a new phase, we should be a good view of the meteor showers barring cloud cover or bright ambient light.
  21. Extraordinary by Vlar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    the article mentioned 5-20 meteors per hour. I was wondering if anyone knew how many meteors you can expect in an average forecasted meteor (not bathing) shower?

    1. Re:Extraordinary by jesterzog · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well 5-20 is on the average to higher side as far as showers tend to go, but it's also important to point out that the meteor shower numbers are frequently misleading if you're not familiar with how they're calculated.

      Normally that number refers to what you'd be expected to see if you're in a completely dark sky, able to see in all directions at once, and with the radiant directly overhead. Realistically this isn't normally what happens.

      Most people live near a populated area, so they only see the brighter meteors. It's also unusual to be directly underneath the radiant, so some of the meteors (up to half) may be below the local horizon. Also, you can't look in all directions. People who observe meteor showers properly often work in groups, with each person assigned a particular area of the sky to keep watch on.

      There are often exceptions and perhaps you'll get lucky, but don't be too surprised or disappointed if you only see one meteor every 10 or 20 minutes, or maybe less than that. Although the article states about 5-20, Gary Kronk's meteor page comments that there can be occasional bursts of up to 100. Don't get your hopes up too much though, or you'll end up disappointed.

    2. Re:Extraordinary by Vlar · · Score: 1

      You sound quite versed in the subject!

      I take it you have gone meteor watching before? Had any really memorable moments like seeing the sky completly light up in streaks of light?

      I can remember as a child, being in a camp grounds off Lake Michigan and seeing the sky full of hundreds of tiny meteors. Still one of the most amazing things I have ever seen.

  22. Welcome! by MavEtJu · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I, for one, welcome our new Lyrid overlords.

    (sorry, first thing which came into mind was "oh my how much of these bad jokes are going to be posted today)

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  23. grammar nazis by circletimessquare · · Score: 2, Funny

    your average grammar/ spelling/ punctuation nazi on the internet is a dull troll

    but a grammar nazi with a sense of humor?

    different beast altogether ;-)

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    1. Re:grammar nazis by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Nothing more dangerous than a grammar nazi who looses his sense of humor. ;)

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    2. Re:grammar nazis by flewp · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, and they're nothing compared to the ones that lose their humor.

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    3. Re:grammar nazis by scotch · · Score: 1

      Thank you captain obvious.

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  24. Suggested Camera Settings? by Alan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm a bit of an amateur photographer, and was wondering what the more experienced ones out there would set their cameras up with as far as shutter speed / apateur for this event? I figure I'll set my digital as long as it'll go at f8 or however small of an apateur I can set, but is that good or not?

    1. Re:Suggested Camera Settings? by Gunark · · Score: 5, Informative

      With most digital cameras you will get a lot of static in your image. I tried doing this with my Olympus C-3030 during the 2002 Leonoids, and my pictures turned out terrible -- more static than anything else.

      As far as I know film is the way to go for long exposures.

      (There's actually a way to eliminate at least some of the static if you're crafty with Photoshop -- the static tends to show up on the same pixels on you camera's CCD, so if you take one fully dark photo you can use it to substract the static in subsequent pictures).

    2. Re:Suggested Camera Settings? by nonameisgood · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No digital, most of the CCD's will overheat on long (minute+) exposures.

      As for film, the best way I've used is to get to a really dark place, or at least no glowing of the sky. Open the shutter with a remote or bulb and leave it that way until you see one. Close the shutter and try again...we are talking minutes - you could have to wait 5-10 minutes in some cases.

      It also works to leave the shutter open through several streakers. If you are persistent, you may get a good "earthgrazer" that travels the entire span of the sky.

      Check out www.spaceweather.com (sorry, not in the mood to html this.)

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    3. Re:Suggested Camera Settings? by register_ax · · Score: 2, Informative
      Go for low aperture like you said, f8 or whatever. (You always want your aperture setting as small as possible for making distinct clarity in your images.)

      Set your ISO on the lowest possible setting ISO 50 or 100. Most cameras will show noticeable interference with anything larger. Note the ISO Speed number demonstrates your cameras light sensitivity.

      Then take shutter speed as long as possible to desired image.

      Just practice on stars and what not to get a hang of your cameras capabilities. Also, I would recommend working in your cameras uncompressed formats if the card is big enough.

      So yeah, a lot of this stuff is common sense, and that is largely what photograghy is. If you are truly a noob, you'll soon here photograghy is 10% knowing what you're doing and 90% being in the right place in the right time.

    4. Re:Suggested Camera Settings? by localhost00 · · Score: 1
      I'm a bit of an amateur photographer, and was wondering what the more experienced ones out there would set their cameras up with as far as shutter speed / apateur for this event? I figure I'll set my digital as long as it'll go at f8 or however small of an apateur I can set, but is that good or not?

      You may get away with reducing the shutter speed but don't do it too much, as doing so would have the effect that the stationary stars would be brighter than any of the moving bodies. Not to mention you would need to mount the camera on a tripod at low shutter speeds anyway.

      See if you can increase the ISO. Increasing the ISO would let you close up the aperture and speed up the shutter speed.

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    5. Re:Suggested Camera Settings? by Cecil · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, while CCDs typically exhibit tremendous noise during long exposures unless attached to a hefty peltier cooler (not that they overheat, they just like to be chilly), Canon's newer, top-end-ish cameras use CMOS sensors, which most astrophotography buffs have found to be very close to noiseless. Not quite film quality yet, but getting there.

      My Digital Rebel is basically noiseless regardless of exposure length at ISO 100. There are one or two variously-colored CMOS hotspots a pixel or two wide (similar to a lit pixel on an LCD screen) that begin to show themselves after a minute or two, but other than that, it's crystal clear.

    6. Re:Suggested Camera Settings? by canthusus · · Score: 2, Informative
      Generally right - reasonably narrow aperture & very long exposure.

      Although other posters point out that digital camera noise can be a problem, there are workarounds. For a start, ensure that you turn the LCD off, if possible. Try to let the camera cool down between shots.

      Your camera may have a low noise setting. If not, take a long exposure photograph with the lens cap on. This "dark" frame will be noisy because of hot CCD cells. In Photoshop/whatever, subtract this image from your photograph to subtract the noise.

      For best results, take several dark field images and average them.

      More information and advice from Digital Camera Astrophotography

    7. Re:Suggested Camera Settings? by David+Kennedy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Take a fully dark picture and use it to subtract static? Sounds familiar.

      You're re-inventing some techniques familiar to astronomers. Back when CCDs (a) were very expensive (b) were very small and (c) had to be used in dewers they were mainly seen on telescopes.

      The other technique (flat-fielding) was taking a picture of a uniform light source and using that to correct the apparent brightness across your images. (My flat fields at the time were terrible, should have been even, were striped and shaded instead. Modern CCDs are prolly a lot better.)

    8. Re:Suggested Camera Settings? by Ragnarr · · Score: 2, Informative

      Go with long exposure times and use your shutter button to hold it open. Use no less than 400 ASA, and preferrably go and pick up some of the higher stuff (800 is nice) since you only have a limited time to pick up on these beautiful objects. A neat trick is to leave your camera open the entire hour or so and let it gather multiple trails. Not to mention you can see the stars shift as well.

      Good luck

    9. Re:Suggested Camera Settings? by p3d0 · · Score: 1
      If not, take a long exposure photograph with the lens cap on. This "dark" frame will be noisy because of hot CCD cells. In Photoshop/whatever, subtract this image from your photograph to subtract the noise.
      Uh, how does that work? If it's really noise, then it will be different each time. Thus, subtracting the image is as likely to make it worse as better.
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  25. Obligatory Austin Powers Reference by Mr_Icon · · Score: 1

    "Comet Thatcher shower on a cold day!"
    "Comet Thatcher shower on a cold day!"
    </Austin_Powers>

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  26. Someone said the link was down? by toiletsalmon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Meteor Shower Peaks Before Dawn Thursday
    By Robert Roy Britt
    Senior Science Writer
    posted: 07:42 am ET
    21 April 2004

    The annual Lyrid meteor shower peaks before dawn Thursday, April 22. Skywatchers in the Northern Hemisphere with dark skies away from city lights could see anywhere from 5 to 25 shootings stars per hour, or one every few minutes.

    The timing of this year's version is good, because the Moon just passed its New phase and is out of the picture, its otherwise bright light not a factor.

    The Lyrids are best seen between about 2 a.m. and daybreak local time, regardless of where you live, astronomers say. That's when the shower's radiant -- the point from which they appear to emanate -- is highest in the sky. The Lyrid radiant is in the constellation Lyra, and very near to the bright star Vega.

    Vega is easy to find. It's in the eastern sky but nearly overhead in the predawn hours. It is the brightest star in that region of the sky and the 5th brightest star overall.

    Lyrid meteors can appear anywhere in the sky. But if you trace each one back, it will point toward Vega. The shower is a result of Earth passing through a trail of debris left by a comet called Thatcher, which last passed through the inner solar system in 1861.

    The Lyrid event is typically modest -- not as busy as the November Leonids or the August Perseids. But they are still cherished by devout meteor observers.

    "The Lyrids are the first major annual shower of the season," said Robert Lunsford of the American Meteor Society.

    But this April shower sometimes generates a brief outburst, when the rate can climb to more than one a minute. Seasoned observers might notice that the Lyrids move more quickly than typical meteors. Bright and persistent trails are common with the Lyrids.

    Most shooting stars are generated by bits no larger than sand grains that vaporize when they plow into Earth's atmosphere. An occasional bright fireball is sometimes sighted amid the Lyrids, caused by debris perhaps the size of a pea or marble.

    City and suburban dwellers will see significantly fewer of the meteors than those in rural areas away from all light pollution. The shower is not visible from the Southern Hemisphere.

    To look for meteors, experts advise taking along a blanket or lounge chair, so you can recline and avoid neck strain. Dress warmer than you think necessary if you plan to be out for more than a few minutes. Find a spot with wide-open sky. Face east but scan as much of the sky as possible. Allow 15 minutes for your eyes to adjust to the darkness.

    Another half-dozen or so meteors not associated with the Lyrids could be visible in any given pre-dawn hour, from dark rural locations, according to Lunsford. These other shooting stars could appear anywhere and move in any direction.

    1. Re:Someone said the link was down? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...experts advise taking along a blanket or lounge chair, so you can recline and avoid neck strain. Dress warm..."

      Good advice, but don't forget a member of the opposite sex to enjoy it with!

      (Unless of course your gay)
      (Not that I'm against that or anything)
      (Not that I'm suggesting that I'm...)never mind.

    2. Re:Someone said the link was down? by lactose_incarnate · · Score: 1

      With a little work, you could have snuck in a nice little Seinfeld reference.

  27. Day of the eh...lyrids by madmarcel · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    For some reason I misread that as:
    "The triffids are coming!" :D

    You guys wouldn't happen to have noticed any strange plants growing in your gardens would you?(Other than the mary jane kind ;^P )

    1. Re:Day of the eh...lyrids by StuckInSyrup · · Score: 1

      were they moving on 3 roots?
      slashing about with a poisonous sting?
      and perhaps rattling with something?
      no, sorry, i haven't seen those.

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  28. Ah, the joys of rural life... by jacobhoupt · · Score: 0

    including a 30-pack, a .22 caliber semi-automatic rifle, a lawn chair, and 5-30 targets per hour streaking through the sky.

    I love Arkansas.

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  29. Live in the desert? Lucky dog! by dulles · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If anybody out there lives in Nevada or near the Eastern High Sierras of California, I envy you: I would be in my car, or on my motorcycle, without hesitation, to enjoy a three hour drive into nowhere.
    In the time I lived in the Eastern High Sierras (www.deepsprings.edu) I was lucky enough to witness two Leonid showers. They were, witout fail, among the most awe-some night-time events of my life.
    So, you desert dwellers... waste no time in making the decision to go.
    (I was also once witness to a paraselene - a fabulous sort of full-circle moon-rainbow. Beautiful!)

    1. Re:Live in the desert? Lucky dog! by gobbo · · Score: 2, Informative
      I second that. I once saw the Perseids from Leh, at 12,500ft (3800m.) in the desert between the Karakoram and Himalaya. Boom! Rah! They looked like they were going to hit us, you could see chunks breaking off, and explosions.

      Clear air... Go to the desert, and go high, to see the best meteor action.

  30. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Funny

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  31. The Stars Are Right! by Fruny · · Score: 1

    I saw the story title and believed for a moment that somebody was anouncing an alien invasion.

    Lyrids, Triffids ... it's all the same to me.

  32. tinfoil hats ? by jacquesm · · Score: 1

    Time to beef up my tinfoil hat I guess !

  33. Speed vs. velocity by GrayTech · · Score: 3, Interesting

    SeaDour writes "The year's first meteor shower, the Lyrids, will peak in the pre-dawn hours of April 22nd when the Earth plows through the debris trail of Comet Thatcher at a relative velocity of 49 km/s

    There is no direction given, so SeaDour should have used speed, not velocity. Or is this a convention often used in astronomy?

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    1. Re:Speed vs. velocity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SeaDour writes "The year's first meteor shower, the Lyrids, will peak in the pre-dawn hours of April 22nd when the Earth plows through the debris trail of Comet Thatcher at a relative velocity of 49 km/s

      There is no direction given, so SeaDour should have used speed, not velocity. Or is this a convention often used in astronomy?


      This is a convention often used in the real world. Yes, velocity is a vector. Yes, the word "velocity" can be used without giving a unit vector direction. Kindly pull your head out of your academic ass: the world has far too much momentum to stop turning every time someone uses the word "velocity" and doesn't mention that, "oh, by the way, that's in the direction of unit vector e..."

      From http://www.dictionary.com:

      velocity
      n. pl. velocities

      1. Rapidity or speed of motion; swiftness. [emphasis mine]
      2. Physics. A vector quantity whose magnitude is a body's speed and whose direction is the body's direction of motion.
      a. The rate of speed of action or occurrence.
      b. The rate at which money changes hands in an economy.

    2. Re:Speed vs. velocity by JohnPM · · Score: 1

      Consider the alternative phrasing: "relative speed". This is inferior to the given wording because it suggests that the speed of one was subtracted from the speed of the other, which is not the case for precisely the reasons you point out.

      Furthermore, using simply "speed" is insufficient because it ignores the fact that both objects are moving.

      Finally using "velocity" by itself suffers from the same problem as well as being non-specific with respect to direction.

      In practice there is scientifically nothing wrong with giving the magnitude of velocity in this way. This is natural language after all, not an equation. If the reader doesn't understand the meaning, they've got bigger problems understanding the rest of it!

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    3. Re:Speed vs. velocity by popoutman · · Score: 2

      The direction is implicit in the statement "a relative velocity of 49 km/s". Relative velocity implies in the line-of-sight to object, though to be pedantically accurate the speed component should be -49km/sec, the distance between meteor and observer being lessened.

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    4. Re:Speed vs. velocity by Resident+Geek · · Score: 1
      It's implicit.

      Down.

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  34. Re:Well, if you host a dinner party to watch them. by qualico · · Score: 1

    Ya that was one of the best episodes.
    Definately funny. :-)

  35. Lyrids? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's a relief. At first I thought it was the Lurids -- a different meteor shower which is too graphic and disturbing to watch and definitely Not Safe For Work.

  36. Re:WHAT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ca-moron.
    Is pimpin' easy?

  37. It's amazing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...i've never seen so many asteriods spew from uranus!

  38. spotted! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...liberal "the sky is falling" agenda item:

    depending on the severity of your local light pollution.

    Geez, now all light is regarded as pollution. Is there anything chicken little can't view as bad (and, usually, in the worst terms possible) for someone or something?

    (as always, mod minus for non-liberal out-of-step with bezerkely post)

    1. Re:spotted! by whorfin · · Score: 1

      Geez, now all light is regarded as pollution.

      Well, regardless of any eco-lefty leaning, what would you have the unnatural light that needlessly interferes with observing the night sky called?

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  39. Re:slashdot...geeze by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you a man posting as a women?

    Cause only an avid slashdoter could come up with something like your post.

    Women are too lazy to go after men.

    They just read over priced fat loss magazines in bed while watching Opera or Dr. Phil, sleep alot, complain alot and then menstrate to repeat the cycle. :->

  40. Reporting Live..... by NarrMaster · · Score: 2, Funny

    All right, for the benefit of those that can't see the shower, I shall describe it for you......

    There goes one..... theres another one!..... And another.... wow these are fast..... oooo, another one.....

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  41. In other news... by use_compress · · Score: 2, Funny

    There have been reports of dihidrogen oxide pellets in the skies over the Midwest. I'd advise the author of the post to attempt to observe this phenomenon.

  42. If you're a raver... by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

    Meteor shower raves are something you should partake of, if you have any interest in attending a rave at all. They can be very cold, being outdoors and all, but you will be guaranteed something to do aside from dancing, drugs, loud music, and ill-fated attempts to hook up. If you DO decide to partake of some or all of the above mentioned activities, the meteor shower can still be quite an enhancement -- think Van Gogh's "Starry Night".

    Mal-2

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  43. +5 poetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wow @_@

  44. Meteor showers are the shiznit... by Gnea · · Score: 1

    Here in the Northeast (on lake ontario) it's been a stormy night... no signs of clearing clouds... feh. FEH I SAY!

  45. The Lyrids Are Coming! by dj245 · · Score: 1
    Run! Flee! Cower in fear!

    Oh wait its just a meteor shower, nevermind.

    a meteor shower, wait a minute.... Run! Flee! Cower in fear!

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  46. Night of the Lyrids by Rorschach1 · · Score: 1

    Not to be confused with Night of the Lepus.

  47. Er, by ColaMan · · Score: 1

    Nobody's cultivating any triffids in their backyard greenhouses are they?

    Ok, Good.
    Just making sure, that's all.

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    There is a lot of hype here.
  48. rate falloff from peak by tiaz · · Score: 1

    does anyone know how fast the rate will fall off from the peak? I want to get out of town to see these on the weekend, and I'd like to know if I can expect to see any
    .

  49. What colour light? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    If these things are going to emit green light, I'm so not going to watch. I don't want to end up fighting carnivorous plants that walk across open land, and have an eerie semblance of intelligence in the way that they gather and attack.

    (If you have no idea what I'm talking about, beef up your book collection with a few John Wyndham novels. Old, but still very readable.)

  50. I'm going to be in hospital... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    having an eye operation at the time :-)

    [wonders if anyone will get the reference]

  51. Don't Watch them!!! Read Day of the Trifids! by zibix · · Score: 1

    When I was about 8, I read day of the triffids where a meteor shower makes everyone blind who watches them.

    I still can't watch a meteor shower because of that damn book!

    1. Re:Don't Watch them!!! Read Day of the Trifids! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's ok. I'm going to be in hospital for an eye operation on that day... :-)

  52. Thatcher? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Margaret Thatcher? Her debris field?

    Oh boy, those conspiracy nuts are right. /me adjusts tinfoil hat.

  53. Re:Well, if you host a dinner party to watch them. by AeroIllini · · Score: 1

    ... just be sure there isn't a dead seal nearby. And that you have permission to use the house you're in.

    "I'm allergic to bivalves. A good host should know such things about his guests."

    "Next time I'll remember to cater to your shellfish demands."

    Good episode.

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  54. Re:Well, if you host a dinner party to watch them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had no idea what the fuck anyone was talking about until I saw this score 0 post. Thanks!

  55. see it from 35,000 ft ? by zarniwhoop · · Score: 1

    I'll be flying tonight in europe - any chance i'll see anything out of the tiny 737 windows? should i insist on a window seat?

  56. No kidding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This had to be the dumbest thing I have seen posted on /. since.... well IN SOVIET RUSSIA. I mean honestly, I just saw this and I can't get anywhere NEAR a dark spot before morning!!!

    Leave it to the idiots....

  57. Just came back from checking it out by Jafa · · Score: 1

    Went out to Crown Point, Portland Oregon. In about an hour, only saw maybe a dozen, but there were a few sweet tails. One seemed to move really slow, just amazing to see. Mostly in the south sky, with one or two to the east.

    Beer and good company made it a fully worthwhile night.

    J

  58. Nothing. by qualico · · Score: 1

    Nothing north of 40.

    Not one.
    I've been had!

  59. Just got done teaching by barakn · · Score: 1

    an astronomy observing lab at 2 in the morning, and only now find out about this? There didn't seem to be increased number of meteor above the usual sporadics, but the ones I saw did have radiants originating in Lyra. Seems to me the more popular showers have gurus like Esko Lyytenin who try to predict the exact time and rate of peak (and which part of the globe this will occur over), but apparently these are hard to predict.

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  60. they did give a direction by barakn · · Score: 1

    The direction is from Lyra towards us. What more do you need?

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  61. 3:30 AM by barakn · · Score: 1

    and there's less than 1 every five minutes. It's cold and I'm going to bed,

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    1. Re: 3:30 AM by Pixies · · Score: 1

      Bah! 4:30AM on a clear night and next to nothing.

      I'm going to wrap myself in newspaper, curl up in a corner and whisper secret animal hymns until I black out.

  62. Story posted at... by adamofgreyskull · · Score: 2, Insightful

    story posted at: 11:04pm
    time difference: +5 hours
    local time posted: 04:04am

    Thanks guys. Thanks.

    Even worse, I didn't see the story until just now when I got up. Pisses me off, cause I was up until 1am working on my final year project...

  63. As someone living at GMT by Illserve · · Score: 1

    This is information that would have been more useful to me YESTERDAY!

  64. You're new around here, aren't you? by pjt33 · · Score: 0, Troll
    The first rule of /.: don't expect Americans to to know that there's a world outside of the USA. This was posted mid-evening Eastern Time, so the fact that it was already dawn GMT and well past dawn in Asia doesn't matter.

    (Don't mind me: I've got karma to burn)

    1. Re:You're new around here, aren't you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not only that... I'm in the Eastern time zone but had gone to bed by 11PM when the story was posted.

      What good is that?

    2. Re:You're new around here, aren't you? by Phurd+Phlegm · · Score: 1

      I'm not new around here, and I think it could have been posted early enough that I might have read it before the shower arrived. I guess the "news" part of the motto is really inappopropriate. A meteor shower is only news before it happens. Unless of course it delivers a crushing blow to the earth, which reminds me of a really cool site, the Earth Impact Calculator, which lets you estimate tremor, ejecta, blast, and radiation effects of various impacts. Really handy if you're a Dr. Doom type and want to avoid wrecking your lair along with Des Moines when you attract a horde of cometary fragments with your tractor beams....

    3. Re:You're new around here, aren't you? by pjt33 · · Score: 1
      I'm not new around here, and I think it could have been posted early enough that I might have read it before the shower arrived.
      Likewise - I was using sarcasm to add my complaint to great-grandparent's.
  65. posted kinda' late by SaV · · Score: 1

    wow, way to post the article so late! when i saw the topic i was sure there would be meteor showers tomorrow, but no. {sigh}

  66. I SECOND THAT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    er...too late now

  67. Gee by EmagGeek · · Score: 3, Funny

    Thanks for the advance notice, guys...

  68. Hardly the first by DynaSoar · · Score: 2, Informative

    "They year's first meteor shower..."

    Make that "seventh":

    Shower Range Peak radiant velocity population #/hour IMO
    Quadrantids Jan 01-Jan 05 Jan 04 15 20 +49 41 2.1 120 QUA
    delta-Cancrids Jan 01-Jan 24 Jan 17 08 40 +20 28 3.0 4 DCA
    alpha-Centaurids Jan 28-Feb 21 Feb 08 14 00 -59 56 2.0 6 ACE
    delta-Leonids Feb 15-Mar 10 Feb 25 11 12 +16 23 3.0 2 DLE
    gamma-Normids Feb 25-Mar 22 Mar 13 16 36 -51 56 2.4 8 GNO
    Virginids Jan 25-Apr 15 (Mar 24) 13 00 -04 30 3.0 5 VIR
    Lyrids Apr 16-Apr 25 Apr 22 18 04 +34 49 2.1 18 LYR

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