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IBM Subpoenas Several Companies in SCO Case

bl8n8r writes "IBM subpoenas are flying. Morgan Keegan, EV1, Oracle, Royce, CAI, Center7, Novell, Canopy, S2, are all asked to reveal details on all documents concerning any communications with or any meetings involving Microsoft regarding Unix, Linux, SCO and/or Canopy." Groklaw notes that even more subpoenas are likely on the way.

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  1. Re:IBM in action by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 5, Informative
    Great! It's fun seeing IBM in action, but, why are they doing this?

    Because they're being sued by SCO and they're gathering evidence against them?

  2. this is why by Kamic · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/biztech/04/23/sco.inv estment.ap/index.html

  3. Working link by yroJJory · · Score: 4, Informative
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  4. Subpoena: for stupid people like me by Tribbin · · Score: 5, Informative

    From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) :

    Subpoena \Sub*p[oe]"na\, n. [NL., fr. L. sub under + poena
    punishment. See Pain.] (Law)
    A writ commanding the attendance in court, as a witness, of
    the person on whom it is served, under a penalty; the process
    by which a defendant in equity is commanded to appear and
    answer the plaintiff's bill. [Written also subpena.]

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    1. Re:Subpoena: for stupid people like me by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 2, Informative

      The grandparent post's definition is from the 1913 edition of Webster's. English in general was wordy and redundant back them. People still use that dictionary because it's the latest English dictionary that is public domain. (sad, huh)

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  5. Re:Let us not forget that IBM.... by bhima · · Score: 2, Informative

    good luck finding stock to short!

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  6. Re:I like the s2 subpoena by leerpm · · Score: 3, Informative

    IANAL, but I think court sanctioned subpoenas pretty much overrule any sort of confidentiality agreement/contract. Of course, the information will not be made public and will be sealed by the court, but IBM's lawyers will still get to see it.

  7. Re:Some Insight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Maybe they're not going after Microsoft because IBM is the largest reseller of Microsoft software and the single largest customer of Microsoft licenses.

    Why do you think Microsoft went through BayStar and the like? While they hate each other with passion, they are bed fellows.

  8. Re:I like the s2 subpoena by macdaddy · · Score: 4, Informative

    An NDA doesn't mean jack when staring down the barrels of a subpoena. They'll be in contempt if they don't comply.

  9. Re:Microsoft and Novell? by bhtooefr · · Score: 2, Informative

    Microsoft because of a possible MS-SCO connection, and Novell because they're claiming that SCO only has a license to UNIX from Novell that can be yanked at any time, and Novell's yanking it, as they back Linux now (after all, what's SUSE now?)

  10. Re:I like the s2 subpoena by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    You're exactly right, but it needs to go through the right process. A subpoena can be rejected by S2 due to the confidentiality agreements, and quite fairly so. So S2 ask the court for a protective order, which then basically absolves them of negligence in breaking a confidentiality agreement. They've asked for that protective order and from what's been said on groklaw that's just a matter of a little bureaucracy.

    court: "S2, give us these documents"
    S2: "but they're covered by a confidentiality agreement. we'll get our asses sued. give us a protective order and it's OK"
    court: "ok we'll get one"

    normal process, basically.

  11. Re:IBM must be hunting for something more... by number11 · · Score: 4, Informative

    what's the case against MS?

    So far, that Baystar, one of the major sources of financing for SCO, did so at the behest of Microsoft. (The other major source of funding is a Canadian bank acting for unnamed private parties.) And that, Mike Anderer, the consultant who is "S2" wrote a subsequently leaked memo discussing how SCO was obtaining >$80M in funding (mostly indirectly) from MS.

  12. Re:IBM and Microsoft by mst76 · · Score: 3, Informative

    > IBM makes more money,

    IBM's revenues are much larger (91B vs 36B) but the EBITDA (10.4 vs 11.7B) and net earnings (7.8B vs 7.4B) are pretty close.

    > has more employees,

    Making the same amount of money with more people is not good.

    > and is a bigger company. Go check out the facts at some point...

    Depends on your metric. Measured by market cap, MSFT (297B) is much bigger than IBM (155B).

  13. Re:IBM and Microsoft by Pengo · · Score: 2, Informative

    > Making the same amount of money with more people is not good.

    But diversity is. IBM has broken into the services market, and various other markets microsoft could only dream of.

    I would much rather have my revenue derive of various small points than very very few HUGE ones.