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IBM Subpoenas Several Companies in SCO Case

bl8n8r writes "IBM subpoenas are flying. Morgan Keegan, EV1, Oracle, Royce, CAI, Center7, Novell, Canopy, S2, are all asked to reveal details on all documents concerning any communications with or any meetings involving Microsoft regarding Unix, Linux, SCO and/or Canopy." Groklaw notes that even more subpoenas are likely on the way.

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  1. Go Blue! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You're my boy Blue!!!

    1. Re:Go Blue! by rock_climbing_guy · · Score: 5, Funny
      Boy Blue; you just reminded me of an off-topic joke, and I've got karma to burn.

      Knock-knock

      Who's There?

      Little Boy Blue

      Little Boy Blue Who?

      Michael Jackson

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  2. IBM must be hunting for something more... by dev_alac · · Score: 5, Interesting

    With all these subpoenas, IBM may just be hunting for more than just evidence that SCO is completely wrong in their claims... Might even be that they're looking to get some dirt on Microsoft or bring down a few other companies with SCO.

  3. Re:IBM in action by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 5, Informative
    Great! It's fun seeing IBM in action, but, why are they doing this?

    Because they're being sued by SCO and they're gathering evidence against them?

  4. In Other Words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    All your documents are belong to us...

  5. Some Insight? by mfh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One of the comments on Groklaw asks, "Why not Baystar, RBC and Microsoft?".

    I think it's likely because these are corporations that would probably resist assisting IBM, and the IBM legal team could still be working out methods for compelling each of these corporations into full testimony. RBC would likely resist, and as a Canadian Bank they can tie up the whole process for as long as they want, unless compelled by a Canadian federal court. Plus, RBC is the most profitable bank in Canada, so they have billions in pocket change to throw at the fight, need be.

    BayStar confirmed that Microsoft was connected to SCO, but maybe they have some kind of legal reason not to help? Or maybe the public facts are enough?

    Trying to get documents from Microsoft in connection to SCO would likely be a huge legal undertaking, so that might be what's slowing things down. IANAL, but if Microsoft, BayStar and RBC joined the fray, wouldn't they have the power to somehow stop the whole process, or slow it dramatically as a joint force? You have to be extremely delicate when handling companies with track records like Microsoft. Maybe IBM's legal team is getting as much data as they can from corporations who won't put up much of a fight, before Microsoft comes in and shuts everything down.

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    1. Re:Some Insight? by Klanglor · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I am not sure RBC will plundge Billions of dollar in legal fight against IBM to protect a 30million dollars in investment.

      My felling of RBC investment in SCO is to ballance its portfolio. I am almost sure that RBC have undisclosed high profiled HPC/Linux Company investment aswell.

      There is a reason why RBC is the richess Bank in Canada, they are managed by backstabing financial foxes (in a more politicaly correct way to say it: Diversification Specialist)

      Just for your information, usulay in a balanced portfolio investment, you always WIN the Wining Return less the loosing investment. For example, if SCO wins RBC 30Million will be Woth say 130Million Less the 30Million they invested in the Linux Companies (as a bonnus, they control portions of the company which holds the IP, which they can leverage on keener treatment for theire Linux Company). On the Other hand if SCO looses, RBC's investement in Linux Company will be worth say 30Million will total a 130Millions less the 30Millions invested in SCO. So No mater how wins RBC makes Money (100Million is a suggested figure).

      All in All, the point is that RBC will not waste billions of dollars to fight IBM because they win anyway. and perhaps, maybe they have stake in Novel. Corel was a canadian company which spined off its Corel Linux to annother small company which was bought by Ximen, which was bought by Novel (if i recall, but i may be wrong.) For sure i know RBC has stakes in Nortel Networks and i am prety sure that Nortel is working behind the sceen on a NIO with Linux.

  6. Re:IBM in action by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How long were you in the hospital after the head wound?

  7. Go IBM! by MrRTFM · · Score: 5, Insightful

    SCO has had this coming for a long time, but its sad that the 2 thing I hate (Laywers and Patents) are going to bring them down.

    This is kind of like seeing the school bully being hit by a bus - you are internally elated, but its not a pretty sight and you feel pretty sick afterwards.
    Oh, well - as long SCO gets taken out, that's all that matters

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    1. Re:Go IBM! by Xpilot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      IBM was evil back in the day but they were cool evil dammit. They made great techonological breakthroughs, won some Nobel prizes and helped bring a lot of cool things into existance (like hard drives).

      Microsoft's idea of innovation is a talking paper clip. Sheesh.

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  8. It's probably not just me... by Jetifi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... anyone else looking forward to the day when SCO's ''office'' is just a smoking field of rubble, their execs are all in jail, and anyone who had their fingers in this pie is up to their necks in subpoenas and/or SEC/FTC probes?

    I can imagine IBM wanting to make that happen. Sorta the corporate equivalent of hanging corpses outside of a medieval town as a warning to others.

    1. Re:It's probably not just me... by francium+de+neobie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > and in the end good always overcomes evil :)

      This is because the winners wrote the history

  9. Subpoena: for stupid people like me by Tribbin · · Score: 5, Informative

    From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) :

    Subpoena \Sub*p[oe]"na\, n. [NL., fr. L. sub under + poena
    punishment. See Pain.] (Law)
    A writ commanding the attendance in court, as a witness, of
    the person on whom it is served, under a penalty; the process
    by which a defendant in equity is commanded to appear and
    answer the plaintiff's bill. [Written also subpena.]

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  10. Re:IBM & lawyers by MikeJ9919 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The thing is, last time I checked, IBM had never stopped development of new software and products. They have never stopped creating and selling innovative technology. A legal department is necessary for any large business. However, it only beceomes a problem when you are spending a disproportionate amount of employee time and revenue on legal proceedings. Anyone who has been following the SCO case knows that, based on the amount of information they've put out regarding their products vs. the amount they've put out regarding their legal case, they're clearly in the latter category. Same goes for their public financial filings. These elements clearly point to a company in its death throes wanting desperately to get bought out. Nothing about IBM's behavior indicates that they are in similar straits.

  11. it's a good thing....this time by MoFoQ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    it's a good thing....I think it's to prove that there's something foul in the air (and no, CowboyNeal didn't have a burrito); aka Microsoft is using SCO to further it's anti-competitive practices, which can in turn be used against SCO.

    I don't think companies that are being sued or threatened to be sued by SCO would say no to IBM's requests, as it is in their interests to help the one who has the bigger army of lawyers. Basically, the subpoenas are a legal formality; in case there's a non-disclosure agreement (a subpoena is a legal way of taking a peek without breaking that NDA), so the companies don't get sued by SCO/Microsoft for disclosing the agreement.

    Fight fire with fire....this case, lawyers with lawyers. The only issue is that since SCO seem to have a secret ally/live-line (Micro$oft), hence IBM's move to possibly expose the foulplay by Microsoft, which will get M$ in hot water with the anti-trust settlements.

  12. Ohh I smell a good one here... by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...I think IBM is looking to not only crush SCO (that they already know they'll do), but now they're trying to find leads suggesting this is a smear campaign.

    While I doubt they're going to find condemning evidence, I don't think it'd take much to open another antitrust case against Microsoft. Along with the recent EU findings, I don't think they'd like that at all.

    Kjella

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  13. Thanks, ESR by Xoro · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's possible that IBM's legal team knew all along, but on the face of it those Baystar documents that Raymond posted seem to have provided a breech for IBM to charge into.

    Kudos to him and his source.

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  14. Re:Novell ? by sphealey · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Subpoena Novell ,why thats an interesting choice!
    There are some indications that IBM is working on unsealing the USL vs. BSDI case. That would require working methodically and carefully up the ladder to prove that they need the documents; Novell would be a logical starting point.

    sPh