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Miguel de Icaza on Longhorn
An anonymous reader writes "In Miguel de Icaza's latest blog entry the Mono project leader discusses the threat Longhorn's new technologies and frameworks pose to Linux and open source. He also directs users to this recent USENET post about the goals of Mozilla, which is a very interesting read.
Originally seen on OSnews." Mmmm...Miguel smart. Seriously, good commentary - and ripe for discussion/flame wars.
And the sign says "Long-haired freaky people need not apply"
So I put my hair up under my hat and I went in to ask him why
He said you look like a fine outstanding young man, I think you'll do
So I took off my hat, I said "Imagine that, huh, me working for you"
Signs, signs, everywhere there's signs
Fuckin' up the scenery, breakin' my mind
Do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign
And the sign says "Anybody caught trespassing will be shot on sight"
So I jumped the fence and I yelled at the house
Hey! What gives you the right!
To put up a fence and keep me out, or to keep Mother Nature in
If God was here, he'd tell it to your face, man, you're some kind of sinner
Oh, say now mister, can't you read
You got to have a shirt and tie to get a seat
You can't watch, no you can't eat, you ain't supposed to be here
And the sign says "You got to have a membership card to get inside" - uh!
And the sign says "Everybody welcome, come in, kneel down and pray"
But then they passed around a plate at the end of it all
And I didn't have a penny to pay
So I got me a pen and a paper and I made up my own fuckin' sign
I said, "Thank you Lord for thinking 'bout me, I'm alive and doing fine", oh
I sit in traffic every morning (when I'm not travelling)
for at least an hour trying to get into the office. Most of
the time I am just listening to the radio, drinking my
coffee, ignoring the world around me. But occasionally, I
let myself pay attention to to cars and people around me.
This morning, that was a mistake.
I look up into my rear view mirror this morning and see a
very attractive, young, black woman. Not Tyra Banks
attractive, but still, she could hold her own. She's
driving what looks to be a new 500 series Mercedes. She's
dressed in a suit and she's primping. Not unusual so far,
right?
I look down for a sec, and when I look back up, she has her
finger shoved up her right nostril to the knuckle! Whoa.
OK. I'll give her a pass. Maybe she has a cold. So I keep
watching. And she keeps digging. I'm getting pretty grossed
out, when she pulls it out and shoves it up her left
nostril and starts digging just as hard as before. I pretty
much lost it at this point and almost hit the car in front
of me. She's really starting to not look attractive at this
point.
I want to be clear that I am not making this last part up
for effect. I didn't think it would get worse, but after
digging for over a minute, she pulled her finger
out...looked at it...and put it in her mouth.
"but in some other cases they got fairly good adoption of their products with little or no effort: just bundle it with Windows: MSN messenger, Media Player."
This argument is old and irrelavent. Every OS ships with pre-installed versions of complimentary software. Microsoft does it, Apple does, and Linux does it. If the OS blocked the user from installing other software that would be one thing, but they don't and you can install whatever you want to.
if you want to be ahead of windowz, you dont want to just copy thing they did 2 years ago.
mono should fork from C#,VB,
kinda what ms did against sun, you know....
Is there anyone who has done more to damage the open source movement?
His horn is quite short, so I'm told. Overcompensation is a terrible thing.
And that's exactly the point at which I would hit you in the face full-force. With a hammer if necessary. Ask about my zero-tolerance policy.
Fight hunger. Filet a politician and send him to a 3rd world country of your choice.
Well, since Miguel has pretty much made a carreer out of making rather poor (both with regards to feature sets and quality) copies of Microsoft products so it is not surprising that he would say something like this.
When I think of Miguel I think of the guy who brought DLL hell to Linux. I think of the guy who put Linux in the tar pits for 3 years while his horribly unstable desktop was being pushed by RedHat.
Why can't the Linux community produce something better than this horrible hack of a copycat?
IE doesn't load an exact copy of the same page. It reloads the last request in a new window. That's almost the opposite. However, even Mozilla hasn't figured out the back and forward buttons yet. Makes me long for NN3.04 Gold.
Bullshit. Windows in 1994 had plenty of applications. Windows 3.11 had far more applications than Linux has today. It's sort of amazing that someone who's always riding Microsoft's jock could be so wrong about this.
I'm guessing the general point is that Linux needs to create it's own JAVA. Is that about right?
.NET isn't the right person to bring attention to this. Nobody likes his. He's a sellout, to be straight about it.
Icaza is no linux advocate, in fact I put him on par with Transgaming for usefulness for lack of foresight- but I don't see anything destructive about having the community put together their own JAVA-ish structure. I don't mean imitate it, but create a better virtual machine from scratch.
That I can live with. But Icaza and his
"C# is the best language in the whole world! Microsoft is sooo cool! Have you seen it?!?! uNF uNF uNF Can you guys hire me cause I've been applying for like 10 years now??? huh? Can ya?? Huh??"
Yea, He isn't someone that's worth a drop of GPL'd piss in my book. He may get a clue one day. But that day isn't today.