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Stanford, IBM Team To Explore Spintronics

saxylife writes "NYTimes and various other media are carrying a story on the latest venture between IBM and Stanford," which will concentrate on spintronics, in other words, controlling "the magnetic orientation of atoms to store data. It's supposed to ease the pressure of hitting the barrier of Moore's law."

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  1. Magnetics by (54)T-Dub · · Score: 5, Informative
    For those of us who have never heard of spintronics here is a quick summation from the article:
    Designing electronics based on how electrons spin instead of how they transmit electrical charges could, in theory, lead to far smaller devices with much lower power requirements and fewer problems with heat buildup. Unlike standard electronics, which represent the ones and zeros of digital information by manipulating voltage and current, spintronics uses magnetic fields to manipulate electronic spin into one of two states called up and down.
    This sounds like a great idea to me. It also seems to me that there has been a lot of talk about using magnetics in data transmision (not storage) for a long time without any real results. It seems very promising considering that a magnetic field moves at the speed of light once it's been created.

    One final interesing quote from the artice:
    One area of concentration will be exploration of Dr. Zhang's research on spin currents. He has reported theoretical support for the concept that spin states can flow from electron to electron just as a charge does, but without generating the resistance that causes energy to be lost every time a charge moves from one transistor to another over a short copper interconnect.
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  2. obligatory wikipedia... by qrash · · Score: 5, Informative
    Spintronics

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spintronics

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    1. Re:obligatory wikipedia... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You slashdotted the wikipedia! It's down! Oh the humanity!

  3. Already in use by ar1550 · · Score: 5, Funny

    FOX News has been using this technology for years to store the text that is then fed to their teleprompters and news scroller.

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  4. Re:I'm sorry, but... by brxndxn · · Score: 5, Funny

    With bits that small, there's plenty of room for parity bits.

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  5. Re:Honestly, folks. by Jammer2k · · Score: 5, Funny

    OK, now I know this can be painful. Try following the link in the story above. I'm not going to actually include a copy since the original one works so well. (HINT: it the link with the words 'Moore's law' in it) Next lesson, finding one's ass with both hands

  6. Unintended Side effects by MacGabhain · · Score: 5, Funny

    Since every electron has a pair somewhere in the universe whose spin will change when the electron in the computing device changes, how long will it be before someone playing DOOM XI unintentionally causes the navigation systems aboard the Narthon flagship to fail, leading to it inadvertantly straying into Drakoid space, setting off an interstellar conflict that eventually leads to the destruction of all life in our galaxy?

    1. Re:Unintended Side effects by Squarepusher · · Score: 5, Funny
      Hah, that'll never happen! The Drakoids wouldn't know a Narthon flagship had crossed the border even if it crash landed right up their roothblats.

      Hahaha, oh that kills me. But seriously, Drakoids are pretty mean.

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  7. Re:Honestly, folks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, Moore's Law applies to transistor density. Transistor density depends on the smallest line we can draw on a microchip. Storage media sizes depend on the smallest line we can draw on a platter.

    Platter density and transistor density are more closely related than you might think.

  8. General information on spintronics by leeum · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those (like myself) who have little idea about spintronics, Wikipedia has a general article that seemed to explain it to me quite well. Of course, I'm not a physicist so I have no idea whether or not it's accurate although I'm tempted to find out more from the referenced article. PhysicsWeb has more of the same. Apparently this will have far-reaching implications on RAM and cable bandwidth.

  9. Moore's law is not a physical law. by Magickcat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yet another article that confuses "Moore's law" as an actual physical law. Jouralists are often unfortunately out of their depth when it comes to Moore's law as it's a bit more complicated than using Word.

    Moore's law is not a physical law whatsover and has no bearing on actual chip development or progress. It is merely a way to predict the miniaturisation of chips. It does not take into account manufacturing processes whatsover, and so there is no theoretical end to it when current chip miniturisation techniques reach their theoretical or actual fundamental physical limits.

    Instead, Moore's law is a time scale that predicts microchip technological advancement and it certainly isn't a precise observation.

    Every so often, somebody starts to claim that Moore's law is broken, or going to be broken, or can't hold any longer. It never happens and is usually just the PR department looking for an interesting angle on a mildly interesting discovery.

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  10. Not quite ... by DarkMan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Although this may sound similar at the level of description given in the articles, don't let the journalists deep and impressive knowledge of this technology blind you.

    The devices that are being talked about work in profoundly different ways to the old ST506 disks. Plus that fact that spintronics has been expanded to cover anyhting with magnets doesn't help clarification much.

    For example, despite zdnets claims that IBM use GMR heads in their hard disks - that's not true, they are spin valves. These show a change in elecrical resistance in the prescence of a magnetic field - but no where near the magnitude of effect of a GMR device. That's fundementally different from the older method used in the read heads, which was to have a coil of wire, and detect the current induced in that coil.

    If you can align the spin of electrons (do-able), then you can orient the spin, and thus have two independant channels within a single wire (horizontal and vertical, or whatever you want to call them). That's pretty novel.

  11. Re:Not News by brarrr · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not to be rude or intend to flame or anything, but spintronics has nothing to do with bubble memory. I'm doing a phd in spintronics under an advisor who focuses on magnetism, so i feel qualified in saying this. Bubble memory i don't know much about, other than it uses novel orientations and sizes of domains for magnetic recording.

    spintronics, on the other hand, uses the charge and spin of electrons and holes in a similar method as electrons and holes are used in standard electronics. for example, the energy required to depopulate a channel in a transistor (turning it on or off) is far greater than the energy required to flip the spins of the charge carriers... so using that, you could have a smaller and lower energy transistor.

    the limitation at the moment is in the materials, which is what we do... making them work at and above roomtemp for example.

    if you be wanting to see a little more, check out our research page: http://depts.washington.edu/kkgroup/research/spint ron/index.html

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