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Fedora Core 2 Test 3 Released

Wee writes "I just got an email from Bill Nottingham of Red Hat letting me know that the third and final test release of Fedora Core 2 is now available. The announcement mentions the big changes are SELinux being disabled by default, that on-and-off problem with install CD1 not booting should be fixed, and anaconda now is sporting 31 languages. The mirrors look like they are opening slowly but surely, and bug reports are always appreciated."

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  1. Re:Debian and Fedora... by Alizarin+Erythrosin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Then use a BitTorrent link to download it.

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  2. Re:Let's keep Gentoo out of this! ;-) by rgmoore · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think that you're seeing a false dichotomy. On the Debian side, you have a distribution that's strongly dedicated to making systems that are easy to admin (e.g. apt for package management) and can be kept very up-to-date by running unstable or testing. On the RedHat side, you have a distribution that refuses to distribute an mp3 decoder or NTFS support because of worries about IP issues. AFAIK, Fedora includes only software that's available under OSS licenses, and is actually quite proud of this fact.

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  3. Re:INFO for OSNews by el-spectre · · Score: 3, Insightful

    True, and for good reasons, both are easy to acquire though, so what's the big deal?

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  4. Re:Let's keep Gentoo out of this! ;-) by MobyTurbo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    On the RedHat side we have a group of distros dedicated to making Linux easier for the user to use, more powerful for the admins to admin, and more up to date for the up-to-daters to update. On the Debian side you have people focused on making distributions that are not encumbered by IP violations.

    The difference isn't so clear-cut. Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Red Hat's revenue-generating product, unlike Fedora isn't so "up to date", and Red Hat also is very "religious" about the GPL, up to not including mp3 plugins for xmms. Fedora is like Debian Unstable, not a production system and bleeding-edge, RHEL is like Debian Stable, a seldom-updated except for security reasons distribution for stability.

    it remains to be seen whether the Linux ecosystem can allow for two completely dichotomous memes to exist and flourish.

    There are not just two distros, there are over a hundred, and many of the most used ones flourish enough to thrive. Slackware, for example, has been around for longer than Debian and Red Hat, and (except for the period where they had the libc5 problem) has become just as up to date as its competition. It has it's own niche, it's very Unix-like, is not especially bloated (though 9.1 for the first time grew to two installation CDs because of GNOME and KDE growing so big.) and does not have dependency hell by avoiding dependency checking altogeather. (I am posting this in Slackware right now, but I've used other distros so I know their strengths and weaknesses.)

  5. Re:Let's keep Gentoo out of this! ;-) by black+mariah · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Fedora will never be a for-pay product. It is the community-driven REPLACEMENT for free Redhat. They canned free Redhat in order to better separate RHEL and Fedora. Also, unstable is a relative term. I've been using FC1 for months without any problems.

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  6. Re:Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You must have timed it really poorly for slackware because releases have been far and few between. 8.1 - 9.0 - 9 months. 9.0 - 9.1 - 6 months. And there has been no new release in 6 months.

  7. Re:Let's keep Gentoo out of this! ;-) by drinkypoo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Fedora is the beta testing grounds for what will later become a release of Redhat. In other words, you are doing beta testing for a product which you will have to pay for.

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  8. Re:Let's keep Gentoo out of this! ;-) by AstroDrabb · · Score: 3, Insightful
    RedHat is showing itself to be a less reliable distribution vendor, by canning one distribution (free RedHat) and unleashing the unstable Fedora betas which one day will become a product which you must pay for.
    And just how is that being less reliable? RH has chosen to to concentrate on the enterprise market and slow down their release cycles. The more active development is happening in Fedora. Fedora Core 1 is extremely stable for me. Fedora Core 2 is still in testing, so you cannot expect it to be totally stable yet.
    Gentoo has become a major player
    While Gentoo is nice and scratches a certain itch for a certain type of user, I would not call it a major player. When it comes to "big" industry support you have Red Hat or SuSE that other companies like IBM, Oracle, HP, People Soft, SAP, etc are supporting. It all comes down to your needs. Pick which distro fits your needs. You could run some enterprise apps under other Linux distros, though you would not get support. For example, you can get Oracle to run under Gentoo, though it would be silly since after paying all that money for Oracle, you would be wasting your support contract.
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  9. Re:Let's keep Gentoo out of this! ;-) by AstroDrabb · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Wront. The test releases of Fedora is where all the testing happens. Once it gets to an official release it is pretty darn stable. Fedora Core 1 is rock solid for me.

    Also, just how in the world do you figure Fedora Core users are testing a product they will have to pay for? Fedora Core will always be open and free, and just why would a Fedora Core user pay for RHEL? Most/all RHEL users are not running Fedora on thier servers if they paid for RHEL. Please explain your logic where you think a Fedora user will ever have to pay money? Fedora is geared for home users or users that do not want to pay for RHEL. RHEL is for paying users that want the support. The two are totally different. A Fedora user will never have to pay RH and upgrade to RHEL.

    Redhat also has some of their top developers very active in Fedora development. In exchange for the community helping in that development, they get a free OS, called Fedora. Again, Fedora users will never have to pay RH a dime. Your post is way off base.

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  10. Re:Is there a samba fix ? by pyros · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The disabled smbfs in the kernel to promote testing the new CIFS module. I don't know if anyoune set up binary RPMs like they have for NTFS, but it would be as simple as 1. install kernel-source 2. edit EXTRAVERSION in Makefile 3. copy the right config from /usr/src/linux-2.4/configs to /usr/src/linux-2.4/.config 4. make oldconfig 5. make menuconfig and enable smbfs as a module 6. make dep 7. make modules 8. copy the compiled module to whatever folder the cifs module is at in /lib/modules 9. depmod -a 10. enjoy That's what I used to do for ntfs until I found the prebuilt RPMs at linux-ntfs.sf.net.

  11. Re:Red Hat by mcrbids · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How well does apt-get for RPM compare with apt-get for Debian?

    Are they really comparable?

    As a user of yum on FC1, I'd really like to know. Why did I choose yum? Mainly because somebody I know used it and liked it, so I tried it, and liked it so much I set up my own yum repository mirror.

    Does using apt-get really offer any benefit over yum? Doesn't apt-get simply mine the same RPM repositories surveyed when doing updates with yum?

    Any intelligent response would be highly appreciated.

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  12. Re:NVidia Drivers by adrianbaugh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ah, jolly good. More drastic changes to the way the kernel works in the middle of a "stable" series. Either kernels should still be being released as 2.5.x or 2.7.0 should have been forked.

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