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Fedora Core 2 Test 3 Released
Wee writes "I just got an email from Bill Nottingham of Red Hat letting me know that the third and final test release of Fedora Core 2 is now available. The announcement mentions the big changes are SELinux being disabled by default, that on-and-off problem with install CD1 not booting should be fixed, and anaconda now is sporting 31 languages. The mirrors look like they are opening slowly but surely, and bug reports are always appreciated."
FC2-test3-binary-i386.torrent Official Fedora Core 2 TEST3 binary iso images for i386. 2.1GB 2004-4-27
FC2-test3-src-i386.torrent Official Fedora Core 2 TEST3 source iso images for i386. 2.0GB 2004-4-27
FC2-test3-binary-x86_64.torrent Official Fedora Core 2 TEST3 binary iso images for x86_64. 2.1GB 2004-4-27
FC2-test3-src-x86_64.torrent Official Fedora Core 2 TEST3 source iso images for x86_64. 1.9GB 2004-4-27
FC2-test3-x86_64-DVD.torrent Official Fedora Core 2 TEST3 DVD iso image for x86_64. 4.0GB 2004-4-27
FC2-test3-i386-DVD.torrent Official Fedora Core 2 TEST3 DVD iso image for i386. 4.1GB 2004-4-27
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you can have apt-get for fedora...
http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/Fedora_apt_and_yu m_repositories.html
http://www.fedora.us/wiki/FedoraHOWTO
There will be lots of problems with SELinux but it
is a giant forward for fine-grained security!
No doubt there will be quite a few initial problems with it.
Nothing, they don't work and it's not Fedora bug it's new kernel feature. As from 2.6.5 no kernel will work with them. Take Fedora as the first distro that actualy takes this step.
At least until NVidia finally resolves 4KSTACKS bug. Up to 2.6.5 kernels had this as feature. Now it's gone, as in bye bye.
NVidia please fix this bug, I have FC2 to install
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The schedule is public and easy to find.
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An RPM build of apt-get for Fedora is available at FreshRPMS. You can also install Synaptic which is a graphical GUI for apt-get.
Its all there for ya.
"Engineers do the work of man, Physicists do the work of God"
Yeah, this is a simple matter of lacking time.
Inclusion is one thing, hard core implementation is another. SELinux is not click RPM and install.
SELinux is a set of policies that define how your system is acting basing on actual happenings. To put it simply, take it as system account ACL-s (maybe I put it wrong but that was the only way to describe it as simple thing).
One month most probably isn't enough time to implement more than trivial policies that actualy take your system trough correct workout. Expect FC3 to be the first one with correct settings. FC2 can be but probably settings will depend on you
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Fedora team needs a lot of time to integrate SELinux well. Test 2 release was horrible horrible mess. When SELinux locked me out of my own box that is when I decided to format the partition and never touch Test 2 Fedora again.
I am downloading Test 3 and hoping that it is better.
i think i know what is causing your problem. as root run hdparm -tT /dev/hdx where x is your drive and partition.
example: hdparm -tT /dev/hda1
You will see cache results and disk transfer results. Im guessing DMA is disabled by default on your machine. If you recieve a very poor score then you can try this
hdparm -c1d1 /dev/hdx
then run hdparm and see if it runs faster. if it does then you know your problem and you can add your /etc/rc.sysinit and place that line in there somewhere after your root partition is mounted.
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I'm having the same issue with my Radeon 9600. Hardlocked Core 1.
I have the NVidia drivers working on the 2.6.5 kernel under FC1. The 4k stacks is part of the Red Hat patch set. NVidia also has real problems with SELinux fully enabled.
I tried FC2 test 2 on my Toshiba laptop and after several hours of tweaking and recompiling I was starting to get the feeling I was installing Gentoo. FC2 test 2 was horribly broken on my laptop... this was immediately evident when on the very first boot of the system, Kudzu sent the computer into deep guru meditation with a blue text screen full of high ASCII chars.
You simply need to install a vanilla kernel to get the NVidia driver working.
The maintainer, steel300 is great and tries to satisfy as many requests as possible.
More information
Link to the patch and ebuild
Here you can read complete story about 4KSTACKS
Maybe you got it to set up now but if you read posts you can see what I
talked about
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apt is available for Fedora, though it isn't included in the install. You can download it from Fedora.us, which also has some instructions on configuring it. You might also want to consider using yum, which is included by default. yum's capabilities are very similar to apt's, including all the good stuff like automatically resolving and downloading dependencies, so it's definitely worth learning. I find that yum is good enough that the first thing I do when installing Fedora is to disable up2date.
There's no point in questioning authority if you aren't going to listen to the answers.
Sheesh. This is a template troll, guys. Check out http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=6081.
Honestly, it's so you can't even moderate a troll down successfully anymore.
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Ganymede, a GPL'ed metadirectory for UNIX
Well, the default disabled status of SELinux isn't truly disabled as you might think it is. I forget what the implementation is, but it is still there, I think along the lines of set to allow everything with no policy in place. SELinux is a huge part of FC2, but it's proven to be so freaking difficult to integrate with anything resembling a standard policy that they have to disable it by default or you will have an unusable system out of the box. And I say this as an apologetic RH fanboy. They will enable it by default when it doesn't break everything for 90% of the users.
Also, part of the point of the test release is to test the installer (and booting disc1 :-) ). Since some of the defaults (i.e. SELinux) have changed in the installer, you don't have a "real" test3 system unless you install test3.
SELinux may be a bit too secure and/or complicated for those not familiar with it. By introducing it as an option, those who know about it and/or are willing to mingle with it can. I mean its possible to lock yourself out of your system even if you have root access, itd take quite a bit of rebooting(probably into knoppix) or reinstalling the system to get access to your system if you messed anything up. I can't comment on the stability of the SE patches but I would assume they are stable conidering that the NSA put them together, but if they aren't stable it may be causing trouble as well.
Regards,
Steve
P.S. If any of you are trying out fedora and prefer the ReiserFS file system just pass reiserfs to the kernel at boot. For those who don't know, ReiserFS is a journaling file system that is very stable, very fast, and has the best recovery that I've seen yet. It is also funded by DARPA as well as a few other secret donators.
I thought this post looked awfully familiar. This same post has appeared, almost verbatim, on slashdot and other sites. The only thing that ever changes is whether the poster is complaining about OS X, FreeBSD or a Linux distribution.
Some of the posts date back to 1998.
Check it out
They have it, but aren't pushing it because they don't consider it fully tested. Put an order in your saved list, then call up the sales staff and ask them to do it. They will happily oblige. (I know because I deal with them frequently)
THIS THING CAN TURN ON A DIME, MACROSSZERO STYLE ALSO FUCK BETA, ~NYORON
The nVidia problem has to do with a 4G memory patch (either apply a patch to fix it, or remove a patch that RH added). There's a thread on nvnews.net that tells how to do it, this isn't a link to that thread, but the thread should be listed in the search results that the link goes to.
I don't know of a URL, but I'm running Core 2 on both my powerbook and my desktop.
Here's the most obvious changes I've seen:
Kernel 2.6.5 instead of 2.4.22
Gnome 2.6 instead of 2.4
x.org instead of XFree86
Mozilla 1.6
SELinux (although it's been turned off)
and upgraded versions of gcc, python, glibc, and a most other software.
Also instead of redhat-config-* it's all system-config now.
Oracle supports Suse too. In fact, they build their Linux products on Suse, not Red Hat.
According to this post it looks like 2.6.6-rc2 & 1.0-5341 on FC2-t2 is working.
If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land,
it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison
Yum lacks a GUI front-end, apt has synaptic, which makes searching through 1,000's of packages much easier. Also, apt is about 100x faster them yum. Try to install about 50 packages with yum and you wil see what I mean. I tried to install about 100 packages with yum and it took about 15 minutes just to hanlde the dependencies before it even started to install anything! Trying the same 100 packages with apt, the dependencies were done in about 20 seconds before the install started. I think the only reason Fedora went with yum by default over apt is because yum came out of Redhat. apt is far better overall IMHO.
If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land,
it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison
you don't even need a src rpm, all it has is the source .tar.gz, any optional patches, and the spec file. If the source .tar.gz has the spec file in it, you can build the rpm without even extracting it, using `rpmbuild -tb source.tar.gz`.
You're arguing with a classic repost.
I suggest the mods around here visit Anti-Slash daily. They maintain a daily list of troll posts, reposts of +5s from past articles, and other mayhem that they successfully get modded up here on Slashdot, all for their amusement.
There will be no Fedora Core 2 Test 4. The next release will be Fedora Core 2. :-) You can see their release-schedule by clikcing here.
For the fiftieth time:
IT'S A TEST RELEASE. THERE WILL BE PROBLEMS.
Install Debian Stable and you will have none of these issues. Same goes for the distros RedHat and SuSE ship. So shut the fuck up.
I'm rambling, but little tools like hdparm make it possible to fix issues that a GUI-only OS might neglect.
As far as you're concerned, apt and yum do the same job. If you are happy with yum, then there's little point in switching.
my experience: I found it quite easy to persuade apt to restart downloads when my 56k modem (yuck!) disconnected -- so I can just apt-get upgrade and leave it alone -- yum wouldn't do that and I had to sit watching it (a bastard if you are upgrading 100Mb of OpenOffice).
Setting up your own yum repo was a lot easier though. Apt was very messy in that regard.
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