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Fedora Core 2 Test 3 Released

Wee writes "I just got an email from Bill Nottingham of Red Hat letting me know that the third and final test release of Fedora Core 2 is now available. The announcement mentions the big changes are SELinux being disabled by default, that on-and-off problem with install CD1 not booting should be fixed, and anaconda now is sporting 31 languages. The mirrors look like they are opening slowly but surely, and bug reports are always appreciated."

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  1. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Interesting

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  2. Red Hat by PeaceTank · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ever since Red Hat died (sob) i've been kind of up in the air on distro's. I'm currently running Debian, but I decided that I'm going to at least try Fedora. I've tried Test 2, and overall, I was impressed. Other than the fact that they still have mp3 support disabled, it's a great distro. Still it lacks the amazing 'apt-get' feature that makes me love debian. I do like that it comes with Gnome pre-installed, since gnome can be a real pain to install otherwise, and the 2.6 kernel is nice. Wish somebody would just combine debian and Fedora and make the uber distro with a beatiful graphical installer like Fedora, and all the power of apt-get like Debian. For now, though, I'll just have to wait.

  3. Exclusion of SELinux as a default? by Coryoth · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anyone know exactly what the issues with SELinux by default were? Having SELinux, or something equivalent system using the LSM kernel module as a default is the way that Linux should e heading - it would dramatically increase the security of Linux systems. I was looking forward to Fedora Core 2 being the first to include it by default, and anticipating other distributions making the move in the near future.

    Jedidiah.

  4. Differences from Core 1 by thpdg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does anyone have the URL to the list of differences from Core 1?
    Thanks!

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  5. SELinux, et al by jd · · Score: 4, Interesting
    First, if SELinux is now disabled by default, then presumably it was enabled by default before. Hopefully with all the relevent patches to all relevent packages being applied!


    However, this would result in a system very different from one that most Linux users would be used to. It would also be very different from any system described by any manual or textbook out there. MAC (Mandatory Access Controls) do strange things to the way systems work.


    Now, those strange things happen to be Very Good Things, if you're wanting a secure system. They are also very disconcerting things, if you're wanting a very usable system.


    Fedora's now on 4 CDs - yeesh! And the mirror I saw only showed source ISOs, no binary ISOs. That makes it hard to test such things as install routines.


    Now, 4 CDs isn't too bad, when you consider that a comprehensive system would have nearer 100 CDs in it!


    For those who don't believe me, here is a quick-n-dirty guide to some of the things you are missing:

    • Scenery to FlightGear. This takes at least 2 CDs on its own!
    • Various additional compilers and interpreters. eg: Occam, Intercal, BCPL, Cobol, etc. Now, arguably these aren't really in widespread use, but we're talking comprehensive, not practical.
    • Alternative web/ftp servers. There are lots of these!
    • A hard real-time kernel, eg: Linux with RTAI.
    • Network routers, such as Click and PIMd
    • Berlin
    • Distributed systems code, such as a MOSIX kernel, a Beowulf kernel, Cactus, PVM/MPI, Globus, COSM, etc.
    • FreeVMS (Another kernel patch!)
    • The first 200 billion decimal places of Pi


    The list is extensive. And, yes, all those would be valuable to someone. Even Pi.


    So, I suppose that although 4 CDs seems a lot, it's actually a lot better than it could be.

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  6. Re:Let's keep Gentoo out of this! ;-) by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Nice karma whoring, you even managed to mix gentoo in there, without talking about gentoo! My hat is off to you sir.

    RedHat is showing itself to be a less reliable distribution vendor, by canning one distribution (free RedHat) and unleashing the unstable Fedora betas which one day will become a product which you must pay for.

    Granted, you can run RHEL without a license, though you will have a hard time supporting it.

    Finally, there are many Linux distributions, not just two. Gentoo has become a major player - I'll mention it even if you won't. Let us not forget Novell and SuSe, either. And Slackware will never die!

    Of course, for some people, like those who want Oracle support, there is only one distribution of Linux, and it is redhat. So I'm not sure either of us has managed to prove anything here, except that we have too much free time on our hands.

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  7. Re:Fedora *sucks*... just from my experience by Spoing · · Score: 4, Interesting
    1. I installed it last week, and it froze the machine _cold_ twice... i.e. had to reach for the power switch. I had enough (as this box _had_ to be reliable) and switched to Debian Testing (sarge)... no problems since.

    Erm...don't run a beta on an important machine?

    If you do...thanks for testing!

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  8. Sparc 32 port by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I started porting this to sparc 32 as a kind of contribution to the Aurora Linux project, but damn is that tedious. I dont even know of a distro that has an up to date port for sparc 32... except maybe gentoo, and I still think it lags behind a little.

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  9. Re:What about X? by juhaz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Nothing much they could do about it.

    XFree86 4.3.0 FC1 was using came out 26.2.2003, and Radeon 9600 and 9800 series later that year (9800XT not until november, I believe) so it couldn't support them out-of-the-box because they didn't exist when the relevant X version was made.

    Since this one will be using the much more recent X.org server based on XFree 4.4.0, yes, it should work fine now.

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