Espectr0 writes "Following the recent iTunes update, someone has been able to install the iPod update from Linux! The article explains how to hack the iPod's firmware in order to get it installed which is required to take advantage of new features in iTunes 4.5 and the iTunes Music Store."
Now we just need phpTunes/itms-4-all working again
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cbrocious
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I'm working on reverse-engineering the new stuff... damn... they break it 4 days after I get purchasing working in phpTunes...
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What's The Point?
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rsmith-mac
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I don't mean to undermine what the author did, but what's the point of being able to do so? I mean, you have to pull the Firmware from a Mac/Wintel machine in the first place, and even when you get it updated, you still can't actually use the iTunes Music Store on Linux to take advantage of any of the new features in the Firmware. It's a cool hack, but a useless one at that.
Re:What's The Point?
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nathanh
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I don't mean to undermine what the author did, but what's the point of being able to do so? I mean, you have to pull the Firmware from a Mac/Wintel machine in the first place, and even when you get it updated, you still can't actually use the iTunes Music Store on Linux to take advantage of any of the new features in the Firmware. It's a cool hack, but a useless one at that.
It's not useless. It's another piece of the puzzle. This guy works out how to upload the firmware. Another guy worked out how to unlock his downloaded songs. Another guy worked out how to download and play the previews from the iTunes Music Store. Another guy worked out how to upload songs to his iPod. You highlight that obtaining the firmware requires Windows or MacOS. So that means getting the firmware purely with Linux is the next piece of the puzzle.
You remind me a little bit of the people who said the same thing about Linux back in the early 90s. "It doesn't have SCSI". "It doesn't have networking". "What's the point, without the feature I need it's useless". Ok, maybe it was useless to them at that time. But Linux isn't useless now. You keep adding a piece at a time until the entire solution is there.
Re:Hacking
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Anonymous Coward
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I paid hundreds of my hard earned dollars for this iPod. I will do whatever I damn well please with the software and hardware I rightfully have a right to use as I please@
Woo, awesome! Now we can use Linux to load a firmware update that lets us take advantage of new features for iTunes! All that's missing is the ability to run iTunes on Linux!
Bunch of rocket scientists, these guys.
Re:Awesome!
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Anonymous Coward
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Bunch of rocket scientists, these guys.
Who peed in your kernel today?
Re:iTunes update benefits
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TravisWatkins
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Uh, you can access iTunes from Windows. They wrote a windows version a long time ago.
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Re:iTunes update benefits
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TravisWatkins
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phpTunes lets you access iTunes from a browser, although buying might not actually work since the upgrade. I'm out of cash so I can't test.
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Re:Now we just need phpTunes/itms-4-all working ag
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cbrocious
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When the songs are bought, you're handed both the encryption key for the file, and your "account key"... those can still be used with PlayFair or DeDRMS, given that you know how to create the key files properly.
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Re:How hard can it be?
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Jon+Proesel
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iTunes relies heavily on OS X libraries. The user interface, QuickTime playback, CD burning,... the list goes on and on.
If Apple would just release QuickTime for Linux, then we could really get the ball rolling. The GNUStep program is getting better by the day, so hopefully Apple could use that for the windowing.
Here's to the collaboration of GNU coders and Apple!
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Re:How hard can it be?
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Spolster
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Releasing a Linux version legitimises Linux, at least in the eyes of Apple, which is not something they want to do. Apple is competing with Linux for the No. 2 operating system place behind Windows and anything that helps Linux, hurts themselves. For people who are, or become, dissatisfied with Windows, there are basically two choices: Mac or Linux. (I'll admit I'm simplifying slightly so dont complain about me ommitting the *BSDs etc.) Why should Apple give users one less reason to choose the Mac over Linux by porting iTunes over to Linux. It would be like Nintendo porting Mario Kart: Double Dash to the Xbox, it would be one more reason to choose the Xbox over the Gamecube. With Windows it makes financial sense to port to that platform because of the huge user base, the same can't be said for Linux since the market is relatively small and actually porting iTunes to linux is non-trivial since all of the libraries that iTunes relies on (e.g. QuickTime) would need porting as well.
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I'm working on reverse-engineering the new stuff...
damn... they break it 4 days after I get purchasing working in phpTunes...
Disconnect and self-destruct, one bullet at a time.
I don't mean to undermine what the author did, but what's the point of being able to do so? I mean, you have to pull the Firmware from a Mac/Wintel machine in the first place, and even when you get it updated, you still can't actually use the iTunes Music Store on Linux to take advantage of any of the new features in the Firmware. It's a cool hack, but a useless one at that.
I paid hundreds of my hard earned dollars for this iPod. I will do whatever I damn well please with the software and hardware I rightfully have a right to use as I please@
Woo, awesome! Now we can use Linux to load a firmware update that lets us take advantage of new features for iTunes! All that's missing is the ability to run iTunes on Linux!
Bunch of rocket scientists, these guys.
Uh, you can access iTunes from Windows. They wrote a windows version a long time ago.
"But I'm still right here, giving blood and keeping faith. And I'm still right here."
phpTunes lets you access iTunes from a browser, although buying might not actually work since the upgrade. I'm out of cash so I can't test.
"But I'm still right here, giving blood and keeping faith. And I'm still right here."
When the songs are bought, you're handed both the encryption key for the file, and your "account key" ... those can still be used with PlayFair or DeDRMS, given that you know how to create the key files properly.
Disconnect and self-destruct, one bullet at a time.
iTunes relies heavily on OS X libraries. The user interface, QuickTime playback, CD burning, ... the list goes on and on.
If Apple would just release QuickTime for Linux, then we could really get the ball rolling. The GNUStep program is getting better by the day, so hopefully Apple could use that for the windowing.
Here's to the collaboration of GNU coders and Apple!
--
Using GNU/Linux - Windows-free zone!
Install Garage Door with Cruise Missile
Install votive candle with Forklift
Install new batteries in Outer Space
Releasing a Linux version legitimises Linux, at least in the eyes of Apple, which is not something they want to do. Apple is competing with Linux for the No. 2 operating system place behind Windows and anything that helps Linux, hurts themselves. For people who are, or become, dissatisfied with Windows, there are basically two choices: Mac or Linux. (I'll admit I'm simplifying slightly so dont complain about me ommitting the *BSDs etc.) Why should Apple give users one less reason to choose the Mac over Linux by porting iTunes over to Linux. It would be like Nintendo porting Mario Kart: Double Dash to the Xbox, it would be one more reason to choose the Xbox over the Gamecube.
With Windows it makes financial sense to port to that platform because of the huge user base, the same can't be said for Linux since the market is relatively small and actually porting iTunes to linux is non-trivial since all of the libraries that iTunes relies on (e.g. QuickTime) would need porting as well.
Hmm. So now updating your iPod from a non-mainstream OS is illegal?
Of course not! iPods update from MacOS, too!
*ducks*
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Is illegal hacking really the best way to show our gratitude, after all of the great things Apple and its iPod have done for us?
Please, Apple/Steve Jobs can not walk on water, part the seas, or turn water into beer.
Only Linus Torvalds can do these things.
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