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Spammer Sues SpamCop

wolfgang writes "Just wanted to send you word that notorious spammer Scott Richter, President of Email marketing firm OptinRealBig.com, has filed suit against Ironport, which runs anti-spam site Spamcop. According to Richter, Spamcop's initiatives have damaged the reputation of his company. Richter filed for $1 million in damages. A similar suit one year ago, filed by Eddy Marin and his Florida-based Emarketersamerica.org against Spamhaus, was thrown out of court last October." We've mentioned Richter before.

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  1. Scott Richter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Scott Richter

    Phone number: (303) 550-9828(Daily Camera)
    Email: scottrichter422@yahoo.com

    Enjoy!

  2. Where's my Opt-Out? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unfortunately, they don't have way on their web site to get your email address off their "opt-in" email list.
    So if you want to try and "opt-out", you'll have to contact them.

    OptInRealBig contact info:
    info@optinbig.com
    phone: (303) 464-8164
    fax: (303) 464-8218
    1333 W 120th Ave
    Suite 101
    Westminster, CO 80234

    Any questions regarding their Acceptable Use Policy should be sent to legal@optinbig.com

  3. Re:what a suprise by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    A lot of my spam seems to originate from OptinRealBig, and all of that share of spam is to the address only disclosed in the whois database.

    Harvesting addresses for spam is a violation of the terms of service for whois.

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  4. BULL-FUCKING-SHIT! by Moryath · · Score: 5, Informative

    Both his arguments, and yours, are completely fucking specious.

    I keep a few email addresses around on various sites. One of them is literally present on only ONE site in the world, and it's in white text on a white background, with a disclaimer "this email address is a spam honeypot, don't send email to it" in text right next to it.

    That address STILL gets Richter's spam-crap. Just like every other spammer out there, he's a liar, a thief (ripping off the people paying him to advertise), and deserves to be gotten rid of.

  5. Is Ironport a black hat? by Animats · · Score: 5, Informative
    I dropped SpamCop after they were taken over by IronPort. IronPort sells spamming engines. "Supports up to 10,000 simultaneous connections". "Can deliver up to 1 million messages per hour". "Removes constraints on outbound email marketing".

    Yeah, yeah, there are "legitimate uses" for this thing. Right. Sure.

    Even worse, they have a "Bonded Sender program, under which spammers pay a fee to Ironport to bypass spam filters. They charge a fee of $20 for each complaint, but allow one free complaint per million spams. They're vague about what a "complaint" is, and admit they don't use "AOL complaints". They may be counting only complaints that reach abuse@bondedsender.com. Since they don't require that mail be marked as "approved by BondedSender", few people know how to complain. And they don't disclose their complaints, or who's in the "Bonded Sender" program.

    They're trying hard to insure that all the major anti-spam systems are hardwired to let their spam through. They have patches for all the major spam detection programs. The patches bypass all other spam checking if the source IP address has the DNS record that says it's listed with BondedSender. Now you understand why they bought SpamCop.

    A useful check for mail programs is to check the BondedSender whitelist, then run a conservative Bayesian spam filter on the content. If BondedSender says it's not spam, but the spam filter says it is, ship it off to the BondedSender abuse address. Definitely do this for honeypots. Any BondedSender mail that shows up at a honeypot should be reported on NANAE. That will help track how much, or how little, Ironport is really enforcing their rules.