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Koalas Gone Wild

Mabon writes "CNN reports that 30,000 of the starving animals are destroying the ecosystem by stripping away the greenery. The Austrailian government proposes shooting some 20,000 of them to reduce the amount of gum trees used by the animals."

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  1. Capture and Sell them! by jonbboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    As Pets!

    I can't wait to have my own Koala!

    1. Re:Capture and Sell them! by jfdawes · · Score: 5, Informative

      They sleep 14 hours a day, they are grouchy, irritable and they stink.

      They have two defense mechanisms: Peeing on things and exceedingly long, tough claws.

      They view many things, including being held as threatening and they are not afraid to use both defense mechanisms on short notice.

      Koalas are one of the worst pets you could possibly have.

    2. Re:Capture and Sell them! by DoubleD · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ok so add an intermediate step.

      Capture, Stuff, and then sell them ;).

      Seriously though what do you do with 20000 dead or unwanted Koalas, at least lets get some use out of them. Something better than fertilizer hopefully.

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    3. Re:Capture and Sell them! by KingOfBLASH · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're assuming that we would buy a pet koala to give to people we like. From your description, I know what a lot of the people I work with are getting for Christmas.

    4. Re:Capture and Sell them! by 0x0d0a · · Score: 4, Funny

      They sleep 14 hours a day, they are grouchy, irritable and they stink.

      They have two defense mechanisms: Peeing on things and exceedingly long, tough claws.

      They view many things, including being held as threatening and they are not afraid to use both defense mechanisms on short notice.


      There are a band of lunatics that enjoy being subjected to this kind of behavior. We call them "cat lovers".

    5. Re:Capture and Sell them! by Alsee · · Score: 4, Funny

      Still, having a pet koala would be an increadible chick magnet. It's a great item to get a coversation rolling and a great opportunity to invite them back to your place. What girl can resist a chance to cuddle a live teddybear?

      As for the claws, those can always be clipped.

      As for the peeing, that just means he likes you! And remember guys, if you toss her clothes in your washing machine that means she isn't wearing them!

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    6. Re:Capture and Sell them! by Ayaress · · Score: 2, Informative

      Or they could be sold zoo animals.

      Every zoo worth its salt already has them, and they are being bred in captivity. Also, the existing zoo stock is more conditioned to humans and less likely to flip out on them (Despite being cute and cuddley, Koalas are fairly well armed for defense, as an above post described).

      Furthur, good luck finding a market for tens of thousands of Koalas in zoos. Even if they weren't already in every zoo in the world, you'd be hard pressed to sell that many of them.

      Or be relocated to eucalyptus reserves around australia, or in other parts of the world (maybe California).

      The problem with Australia is that relocating them will allow them to breed FASTER (same population, more food) and in fifteen years, we'll have 500,000 of them and need to shoot 490,000 before the ecosystem collapses. Relocating does nothing if you don't figure out and fix what's wrong to allow them to overbreed their food supply like this.

      A simple look at Australian history will tell you why relocating them to California is a big no-no. Australia is a case-study in how much damage an imported species can do to the existing ecosystem.

      On the other hand, maybe Australia should seed Koala populations throughout the world. Sort of their way of saying, "How you like it now, bitch?"

  2. Worthless article by Thomas+A.+Anderson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That CNN article is the most useless one I've read in ages. It fails to provide any of the following information:

    1) How would nature control population growth in koalas?

    2) Have we in some way removed that control and can it be re-introduced.

    All the article talks about is why we should or should not shoot them. There is no indication whatsoever that anybody cares why the koalas are overpopulated (and no, a quick blurb about urbanization doesn't count).

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    1. Re:Worthless article by node+3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      1) How would nature control population growth in koalas?

      1. Introduce a deadly predator capable of killing 20,000 of them (which is the plan).

      2. Disease (bad idea).

      3. Famine (the plan is to prevent this because the Australians like trees and koalas).

      That doesn't mean I advocate a hunt as a solution to every animal problem, but sometimes it is the solution.

    2. Re:Worthless article by jfdawes · · Score: 4, Funny

      the Australians like trees and koalas

      Most Australians do not like Koalas much. (see my other post on this subject). They put up with them because stupid tourists pay a lot of money to be peed on.
      Also, it's fun to go to a tourist trap, stand around the bottom of a tree and point up at it and walk away once the crowd gathers. Couldn't do that if the Koalas were all dead now, could we?
    3. Re:Worthless article by hummassa · · Score: 4, Funny

      Condoms?

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    4. Re:Worthless article by SEE · · Score: 4, Insightful

      1) How would nature control population growth in koalas?
      2) Have we in some way removed that control and can it be re-introduced.


      The island itself is not a native habitat for koalas; they were introduced by humans. There is therefore no natural control on the koalas on the island. To restore the natural balance, one would eliminate the artifical infestation by the artificial means of killing all the koalas.

    5. Re:Worthless article by azav · · Score: 4, Insightful

      WWND: What Would Nature Do?

      1) Starvation or disease

      2) Nature is taking its course. It is a standard population model of food availability and population increase that is explained in Biology of Populations.

      We apply our human morals to a natural process and declare it "bad". Well, it may be but it IS what happens in nature when the population of a species exceeds the carrying capacity and food availability of the environment that holds it.

      If the population needs to be controlled, the proven method is to thin the reproducing females or relocate them into another population.

      PIck up an Ecology or Bio of Populations book. Very enlightening reading.

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    6. Re:Worthless article by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Nature is taking its course.

      ... except that Koalas are not native to Kangaroo Island.

      This is like saying feral cats and foxes pushing many Australian native mammals and birds to extinction is "nature taking its course". It is true, but beside the point.

      What Australians (those who care about these things) want is that the wild places of Australia are like they were before Capt Cook "discovered" Terra Australis. If this means killing introduced pests like cats, foxes, rabbits, camels, cane toads ... and culling koala and roo populations that have gotten out of control ... so be it.

      FYI, the Australian lanscape has been actively managed by man for thousands of years. This is the natural state of things.

    7. Re:Worthless article by SEE · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes, I can: Right Here.

      Money quote:
      Not native to Kangaroo Island, Koalas are now devastating, through overeating, these eucalypts.

      And I agree that the Reuters article (the actual source, CNN just reprinted it) was basically worthless.

    8. Re:Worthless article by d-rock · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, racoons are native to North America but not to Hawaii or Death Valley. Australia is a huge country/continent. Kangaroo Island is a small island off the South coast, near Adelaide. They really aren't native on the island and they *are* forcing other animals out. I was there last year and it didn't seem that bad (we only saw a handful of Koalas in the Koala sanctuary on the West end of the island), but on an island it can be fairly easy to disturb the natural balance.

      Derek

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  3. Koalas are heavily dependent on the ecosystem by linzeal · · Score: 5, Funny

    They only eat one type of food, you know and that is a poor adapation imho. I bet they taste like it too, icky. Unless you want your meat to taste like an herbal cough drop.

  4. You Idiot! by Carnildo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Those aren't koalas, they're drop bears!

    A drop bear is an animal similar to a koala, but slightly larger, with sharper claws and teeth adapted for eating meat. The primary food of the drop bear is other animals, however, they have been known to go after humans, particularly overseas tourists. Their name derives from their means of hunting: they lurk in trees, and drop down on their unsuspecting victims.

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  5. This could sell in Canada by the_other_one · · Score: 2, Funny

    Unless you want your meat to taste like an herbal cough drop

    Buckley's koala burgers.
    They taste terrible
    But they work.

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  6. Relocation would be nice... by RedPhoenix · · Score: 2, Informative
    .. though I'm not sure it would be particularly cost-effective.

    Here in Canberra, we recently had some fairly significant bushfires (Brushfires to US readers.. though I agree with a slashdot poster of a few months back, who thought that brushfire sounded like a problem caused by overactive grooming...).

    As part of the fires, one of our wonderful nature parks ( Tidbinbilla) has lost all but one of their Koalas. Now that leaves are starting to come back onto the trees once more, it might be a good time to try and acquire some more koalas.. This would seem to be an ideal opportunity to bring back a koala population into the area.

    I suspect though, that the costs might be somewhat prohibitive, and I'm not really sure about territorial habits of Koalas, so there might be other factors that would make transferrel difficult.

    Red.

    1. Re:Relocation would be nice... by RedPhoenix · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Here's a picture of 'lucky' by the way: Here

    2. Re:Relocation would be nice... by Piquan · · Score: 2, Funny

      (Brushfires to US readers.. though I agree with a slashdot poster of a few months back, who thought that brushfire sounded like a problem caused by overactive grooming...).

      And what do you think 'bushfires' sounds like to us yanks?

  7. I like this plan. by gklinger · · Score: 5, Funny
    And when they're done with those damn koalas, they can go to work on those evil pandas.

    No, animals were harmed in the making of this post.

  8. So cute! by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you kill them without damaging their lovely coats you could remove the insides and stuff them with something safe so they can be sold to children as cuddly toys. Hmmm...you'd probably have to replace the eyes too. Can't wait to see them in stores!

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    1. Re:So cute! by Captain+Nitpick · · Score: 2, Funny
      If you kill them without damaging their lovely coats you could remove the insides and stuff them with something safe so they can be sold to children as cuddly toys. Hmmm...you'd probably have to replace the eyes too. Can't wait to see them in stores!
      Ob-Futurama:

      Sheldon: Do any of you collect Lovey Bears?

      Amy: I do! Kif's given me dozens! Is it true what the ad says? That you kiss them together out of blanket cloth and magic buttons?

      Gwen: No.

      Sheldon: It's actually cheaper to genetically engineer real ones. [The walkway passes an area of grass where Lovey Bears turn around playing with each other and picking flowers.] They frolic in the Lovey Forest until their first birthday then we choose the cuddly-uddliest ones and stuff them full of fire retardant love fluff!

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  9. Not native by moxruby · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is happening on Kangaraoo island, off the coast of south australia.

    Koalas were introduced here by humans in the 1920's.
    They are not a natural part of the ecosystem.

  10. slippers anyone??? by DrKludge · · Score: 4, Funny

    Forget pets, I bet they would make nice, soft, fuzzy slippers.

  11. I used to live there. by Thornae · · Score: 4, Informative

    This story is something I've been keeping track of for the past ten years or so, because I actually used to live on Kangaroo Island (lovely place, don't miss it if you're visiting South Australia).

    As mentioned above, the koalas were introduced to KI early last century, and thus have nothing to regulate their population growth as they do on the mainland.
    The problem was first brought up about a decade ago, when scientists studying the koalas noticed how large the population was getting, and predicted they'd start stripping their own food sources in a few years. Around that time, the idea of a cull by professional shooters was quietly raised, discussed, and concluded by various intelligent folk to be a good idea.
    Then some idiot journalist got hold of it, and beat up a huge story: "They're planning to shoot hundreds of our cute, cuddly national icons!!!"
    After the media stink from that, the fucking State Government stated that they would ban the shooting of the koalas. Like it was something to do with them.
    Anyway, to show they were doing something about the koala overpopulation problem, they instituted a capture and sterilization program. Yes, they thought they'd stop all those naughty koalas breeding, but leave them in place. Aside from the lifespan of a koala being such that they're still going to destroy their habitat, it's being completely ineffectively implimented.
    It takes about two to four man-hours to find and capture one koala. Sterilizing them is another half hour to hour operation, and then they've got to be kept in a cage for a day or so...
    I know one of the two (yes, two) vets working on this, and he's got no illusions that it's anything more than a political sop to the idiot majority who can't bear the thought of shooting those cute little animals.
    The fact that the notion of culling them has now arisen again shows just how effective this program has been.

    And do you know what? The local media are still running with the same fucking slant!!
    "They're going to shoot all these cute little koala bears, how awful!"

    I think 30,000 koalas starving to death would be a damn sight worse, and far crueler. I'm in favour of the cull.

    Oh, and before you ask, we can't really ship them anywhere else. Unless you know somewhere that's able to accomodate 20,000 koalas on short notice, and have a few million dollars to implement the move.

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    1. Re:I used to live there. by Thornae · · Score: 3, Informative

      Nothing actually eats koalas. Since their diet consists entirely of eucalyptus leaves, the meat would be almost inedible.
      Australia doesn't actually have any large land predators except humans. Generally, the environment is harsh enough to act as population control. In this case, the Island (as it's known to locals) lacks sufficient nastiness of climate and such to reduce the population through attrition.

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  12. Eat 'em by Bowling+Moses · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seriously--if you have to kill them anyway, why waste all that meat? Besides there's plenty of carnivores like me who'd be interested in trying them out for no other reason than culinary curiosity. Other places have taken similar steps: Lousiana has a problem with damage done by nutria (think sorta like a muskrat) that was once prized as a furbearer but now is regarded as an invasive species and as a nuisance. The solution provided by the website: "The Coastwide Nutria Control Program, paired with the promotion of nutria meat as a high-protein, low-fat food source, is the main hope for Louisiana's coast." Yum.

    1. Re:Eat 'em by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Other places have taken similar steps: Lousiana has a problem with damage done by nutria (think sorta like a muskrat) that was once prized as a furbearer but now is regarded as an invasive species and as a nuisance. The solution provided by the website: "The Coastwide Nutria Control Program, paired with the promotion of nutria meat as a high-protein, low-fat food source, is the main hope for Louisiana's coast." Yum.

      Good job, PETA. "Don't wear fur, don't wear fur, don't...damn, we're covered in muskrats."

  13. Think of the costs associated... by Jorkapp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The government proposes shooting 20,000 of them

    That would be a pretty damned expensive operation. Factoring in:

    =+=1000's of litres of gas for jeeps to track the koalas.
    =+=hiring people to shoot the koalas - unless its done by volunteers.
    =+=25000 rounds of ammo. Hunters may miss the koala, or hit it in a non-critical area (legs, arms). Where's an aimbot when you need one?
    =+=hauling of 20000 dead koalas. A few solid transport trucks should do the trick.

    Their best bet would be to sell off the dead koalas to make back some of the money. Koala Burgers anyone?

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    1. Re:Think of the costs associated... by neglige · · Score: 2, Funny

      hiring people to shoot the koalas

      Oh, ok, I guess I misread "The government proposes shooting 20,000 of them"... I thought it was pretty darn heroic of the government to sacrify themselves for the koalas.

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    2. Re:Think of the costs associated... by gardyloo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I guarantee that if you put an advert in some hunting magazine, and make a lottery out of it, you'll get people wanting to travel there, and spend their own money to shoot these things. Yes, you'll get some whacko hunter types, but they'll not only spend their own money on airfare, gas, food, ammo, etc., but they'll bring in tourist dollars at the same time.

    3. Re:Think of the costs associated... by Glonoinha · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Didn't work so well on that whale though.
      Exploding Whale

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  14. Disappointing... by Coppit · · Score: 3, Funny

    I for one am really disappointed in the Slashdot editors. You'd think that if they were to tempt us with "Koalas Gone Wild" they would at least mention some of their spring break and Mardi Gras antics.

  15. Simple solution: Bolivian Tree Lizards by unassimilatible · · Score: 3, Funny
    The Bolivian Tree Lizards will eat the Koalas. After that, we simply unleash wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They'll wipe out the lizards. Then we've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat. And that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.

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  16. Ob Koala Joke by pipingguy · · Score: 3, Funny


    There was a Koala bear that decided he was tired of the boring life in Australia, and decided he would go to NYC.

    On his first day there, he picked up a lady of the evening.

    When he was finished he stood up and went for the door. The hooker said, "excuse me but aren't you forgetting something?", and he replied, "I don't 'think so".

    The hooker grabs a dictionary and looks up the word 'hooker' and shows it to him. 'Hooker = A lady who has sex for money.'

    "Really", he said, and proceeded to look up 'Koala Bear' in the dictionary to show her:

    'Koala: An Australian marsupial that eats bushes, shoots, and leaves.'

  17. Re:Hypocrisy by RockModeNick · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just read the posts, they are NOT native to the landmass where the culling is proposed, and should probably be wiped out in total from that area. Are you saying we should let them live there, strip the environment, and threaten native ecology, just as nonnative species and human encroachment does to them? That makes you sound pretty hypocritical.

  18. Better yet : Eat Them! by Glonoinha · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh man, just start a rumor that Koala meat is a delicacy and a powerful aphrodisiac (like shark fin, powdered tiger penis, etc) in Japan and sell them for $1,300 a kilo in Tokyo. No better way to clean out an entire species than to get Nippon thinking that it is a delicacy or a powerful aphrodisiac.

    BTW - no joke. Look at the poor sharks, blubber whales, tigers, etc. The trick isn't getting them to start, it is getting them to stop.

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    1. Re:Better yet : Eat Them! by HonkyLips · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Koalas are the only animal that doesn't drink water. Their diet consists entirely of Eucalyptus leaves, and they will only eat leaves from a small area around which they were born (hence Koalas cannot be relocated, 'cause they starve). Their bodies have evolved to cope with a diet of toxic leaves by becoming slower. Their brains are shrinking so they consume less energy, and can devote more of their metabolism to coping with the Eucalyptus content of their diet. So I'm guessing that Koala meat, even if it isn't toxic, would taste disgusting. Eucalyptus flavoured meat that will probably kill you? No thanks. But then again... those Japanese are really Fugu...

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