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Super MP3 Will Feature User Tracking
An anonymous reader writes "Next generation super MP3 files will support four-channel audio tracks and contain what's dubbed Light Weight Digital Rights Management (LWDRM) code to track it's owner via p2p programs." We've mentioned these multi-channel, DRM-ified MP3s before.
This one will not be widely used by consumers if it has a light-weight tracking mechanism embedded in it. We'll simply use one of the others. Not to mention, there will always be players (and converters) that disable the tracking and convert to a more well-accepted format.
But maybe it's a step in the right direction. We'll see what becomes of it. My guess...absolutely nothing.
What's to stop the community from making some sort of DRMless multi-channel MP3/Ogg format? Let the RIAA push their own formatfor their own files, it doesn't force us to use it for our own data. If users demand support for the non-restricted format, media player authors will be forced to either support it or lose customers.
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I am guessing that a law will be passed that will make it illegal to pass around somebody's else email, specifically a corporation's e-mail. IOW, you will not be allowed to forward or mention anything that was sent to you.
But that it just a guess based on how laws are being created.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Don't bitch and moan. This is wonderful for independant artists and those listeners that want to make sure where an mp3 came from. Personally i will encourage those recording friends of mine to use this...it's not to keep you from copying/sharing, rather to guarantee quality and authenticity.
who said that next generation music will have only 2 channels? RIAA are looking for a reason to have another generation of CDs. Improved quality is the reason to buy new CDS. Unless indi music really catches on, ppl will just be like sheep and do it.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
That said, I would LOVE multi-track audio files. I would love to be able to press a button to disable the vocal track, or turn down the volume on the guitar track, or turn up the base track, or whatever. Basically like the tracks you see in Frequency or Amplitude on the PS2. There are many times I would love to be able to turn off the vocals, or turn UP the vocals to hear them over the rest of the music.
I would love this for TV too. I would love to be able to turn up the dialog track, or turn down the sound effects. Or my idea: turn OFF THE DAMN LAUGH TRACK.
THIS is the feature I want. Give music like this and files to store it in, and I'll be happier. Don't give me something I can't use. If you want me to swallow DRM (even LIGHT DRM) give me something that I want in exchange, not something useless.
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eMule, eMulePlus, BitTorrent, iMesh, Soulseek, etc, etc... now featuring auto Super MP3 DRM stripping.
They will hardcode future motherboard BIOS-es to load only Certified Operating System. The BIOS will not be upgradable. This will be done under the guise of Homeland Security.
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You should use Apple's new lossless codec, no DRM and it is the same quality as a CD. www.itunes.com
And its not an issue.
If at some point we cant use old style mp3 for some unforseen reason, then we us something else entirely.
Sharing is a moving target, and all this nonsence to try to control it just causes the target to move even faster.
Be it right or wrong, its going to persist... 'The man' best get over it and move on..
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It is backwords compatible MP3, only difference it has a watermark and some extra for multichannel. So All you have to figure out is how to strip it.
Have you ever been to a turkish prison?
...so one album can be spliced into one MP3 with 10, 12, or however many tracks, allowing navigation through an album without those annoying pauses between tracks -- especially on MP3 CDs.
#1 Learn how the Super MP3 file format works.
#2 Collect information on your enemies.
#3 Insert that information into various Super MP3 files and strip out your information.
#4 Share files on web sites or P2P file sharing networks using an alias on a system that is not yours. Like upload files from a library, college, rental system (Kinko's, CyberCafe, etc using an fake ID to get access to the system, wear a disguise too).
#5 Sit back and watch the RIAA punish your enemies for you.
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When you buy a CD you have the right to do what copyright law and the license of that work says you can do.
You're right about the physical CD, you can do whatever you want with that. But the music on it, you don't own, you're leasing for an infinite amount of time on their terms.
Redistributing the copyrighted work is generally a no-no, in about 90% of countries. Especially "western" ones.
Shouldn't people be arguing for guns which don't leave any traceable patterns?
I'd imagine if guns origionally were untraceable, as far as bullet markings, and a private industry wanted to add a watermark feature that scored the bullet such that it was identifiable, people would argue against it. It was a natural property found through forensic evidence.
Aside from which, dude, it's a murder scene versus a copied MP3. Jesus, it's not even in the same league.
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Having the death penalty as a maximum punishment might not be such a bad thing.
1) It would never be enforced
2) It just _might_ help to show people that our current system is broken, and needs a change.
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Wasn't Quad sound (for music) tried in the 70s and a total flop?
Isn't this the same format for which we are to pay, while .ogg files eclipse them? Let me get this straight- we're PAYING to give out personal information?
Put another notch in the bedpost for the Microsoft mindset.
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who said that next generation music will have only 2 channels?
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Count the ears.
Although you could make a good argument for 2.1ch (the ".1" to give the bass "feel" of a live performance), having more than two channels really only makes a difference for content designed for more than a single listener at a time.
For watching a movie, something people usually do (at home, anyway) in small groups, you want good sound quality for a wide area of the room. At least the width of a typical sofa, and the depth of the sofa plus a couple of kids sitting in front of it. Thus, you have 5.1 channel, allowing more than a single person to experience decent sound.
For listening to music, usually you either have "background" music on (for which, perfect reproduction doesn't matter as much as just having something on), or you wear headphones (truly obsessive audiophiles who may have a whole small room engineered just to accomplish the same effect as wearing headphones notwithstanding). Your ears define the "sweet spot" for the music, and a mere two channels can produce any spatial orientation of sound that you have the physical ability to perceive.
Thus, for just music, 2 channels will stay the dominant medium not just for the near future, but until evoution gives us another ear (and even including that ".1" I mentioned earlier, you don't need a third channel, since you can derive that from the center of the two channels)
Ok, you have a typical 5MB mp3 song.
For a song to become a super mp3, tracking P2P users and multi channel sound.... wouldn't this be naturally much bigger than 5MB? If so wouldn't it be easy for the P2P user to just recognize that and avoid downloading it right away.
Not to mention this is probably going to create a new P2P feature to flag an mp3 as "super" or "regular" before downloading.
>How will Longhorn prevent simple file conversion tools from running?
As far as I know the Super-MP3s don't use longhorn, but if they did:
If you don't have longhorn the site that sells the songs and all computers that have bought them (and therefore need to have longhorn) will refuse to send you the file. You would be an un-trusted host.
If you do have longhorn, the file conversion tools are unsighned code. So you can't run them.
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Online gaming? Been around since Doom, yet only caught on around the time of Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament.
Maybe for you, but my first online game was a P51 Mustang battle flight sim on the TRS80 in 1983. It ran with relatively little lag on a 300 baud modem and supported 2 players. My BBS friends and I would play for hours and hours.
Online piracy? Been around since geeks in colleges would run IRC servers sharing everything from music to videos to games using simple dial-up modems yet only now we're hearing about it in the mainstream.
Nah, the BBS was the birthplace of modern warez distribution. The first time I knowingly logged into one was in 1981.
Most of the people involved weren't college age geeks, either. We were nerds back then. There was no 'chic geek' thing or nerdy IRC girls on Prozac. Except for Sherrod, but she was an IRC chiq before IRC even existed.
Furthermore, even if you are concerned about the subtle details, all it takes is some basic adjustments to a system such as using good crossovers and keeping different frequencies on two or three separate amps to achieve a roomful of sound. And speaking of the room, this could be the most important part of all. An MP3 encoded at 56kbps played on a well balanced stereo system in a room with a pyramid shaped ceiling will sound far richer and subtle than a DVD audio played in four channel stereo in a box-shaped room. This four channel ploy is a classic example of a red herring.
Between the facts and your ignorant claim, there are lightyears of difference. And that you actually got moded "interesting" for this... The moderators are still clueless, I guess.
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