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MSNBC Looks At Patent Abusers' Victims

Camel Pilot writes "Patent claims have reached a new low when "inventor" Witold Ziarno sued the American Red Cross for using the web to accept donations. This MSNBC article discusses this case and how it was beat using web archives and prior art! Also Pangia Intellectual Property has given up hope on extracting fees from small e-commerce websites for its supposedly patent on e-commerce. The only problem with the PanIP case is that they got away without having to pay for the legal fees for the defense in an obvious abuse of the system." (See this previous post for more on PanIP's dropped case.)

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  1. Re:Very strange by iggymanz · · Score: 4, Informative

    very strange indeed since many of us were doing electronic purchases and donations on BBS systems with our 1200 baud modems a tad bit earlier than 1993

  2. Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The main argument behind patents is that without them, nobody would have motivation to come up with new ideas and no research and development would be done.

    The actual argument for patents is that, without patents, people who use new inventions and innovations would waste huge amounts of effort keeping their discoveries secret from the competition.

    The patent process is designed to encourage inventors to publish their ideas so that other people can build off of them. And after a number of years, the patent expires, and anyone can use the work for free.

  3. Re:Maybe this is where tort reform should start by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't get it. How does loser pays make change this. unless of course the a lawyer is himself the plaintif/defendand.
    Loser pays just re-structures who pays the leagle bills, not whether they exist.
    I suppose it would make a difference if the looser was so poor he couldn't pay, that would reduce the number of poor people who could sue to those with a case iron clad enough a lawyer felt he could count on winning. But other than that I don't see your logic.

    Mycroft

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  4. Re:Question by Hettch · · Score: 5, Informative

    My dad was looking to apply for a patent on something a few years ago. The problem is that it was something like $2000 just to apply! This is why they are mainly granted to big companies, because the have the monetary backing.

  5. Re:Question by BCW2 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have an uncle that went through the whole process, it was a bitch. But, he had a good idea and is making some money now. Beats the heck out of farming! Check out www.cleanfunnel.com/

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  6. Re:Maybe this is where tort reform should start by GrassMunk · · Score: 5, Informative

    Problem with loser pays ( like here in canada ) is that you can never win a court battle against a large corporation. ( Well that and the fact that our lawyers cant get a certain % of your winnings and they have to be paid pretty much up front. ) But if you go to sue Bell Canada ( aka Verizon North ) and you loose, guess whos in debt because Bell threw 10-15 lawyers at the problem. Looser pays is a good idea but it can have its drawbacks.

  7. Re:Question by jkabbe · · Score: 2, Informative

    The good news is that the new bill that just passed the Senate would decrease the costs for a small inventor to apply for a patent. Currently the Small Entity Status gives you a 50% discount. If filed electronically, a Small Entity can get a 75% discount with the new bill.

  8. Re:no conscience by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 4, Informative

    Probally the same malfuction that gets the RIAA to request license fees from the Girlscouts to sing *puff the magic dragon*.

    The RIAA does no such thing. Performance royalties for that song are collected by ASCAP on behalf of Pepamar Music Corp. You want to blame somebody, lay them blame on them.

    Remember, RIAA = RECORDING Industry Association of America. Unless the Scouts are marketing CDs of their campfire singalongs, the RIAA has no involvement.

    Please, people -- KNOW what you're talking about before you post.