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Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 Released

KonijnenBunny writes "May 3rd sees the release of the 0.6 version of Mozilla's Thunderbird e-mail and newsgroup client, featuring improved junk-mail controls and a new brand identity, including a new Firefox-style icon. I switched from some murky client which didn't exactly have a bright outlook regarding spam to Thunderbird a while back and was not dissapointed. Grab this latest version at Mozilla.org." Mac OS X users can also enjoy the new Pinstripe theme, which matches the previous theme of the same name applied to Firefox.

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  1. So they've not renamed it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would have thought that they would have renamed it to fit in with Firefox. Thunderfox isn't that bad a name, is it?

    1. Re:So they've not renamed it? by jdreed1024 · · Score: 5, Funny
      Thunderfox isn't that bad a name, is it?

      Not bad. But I think the male geeks out there need something a little more manly. Like, say, ThunderCougarFalconBird.

      Car Salesman: Spotted her the moment you came in, didn't you? She's a real beauty.
      Fry: Yup, she's beautiful coffee alright.
      Salesman: No, the Ford ThunderCougarFalconBird! Nothing makes you feel more like a man than a ThunderCougarFalconBird! So how much were you thinking of spending on this ThunderCougarFalconBird?
      Fry: Sorry, I'm not here to buy.
      Salesman: I understand, and it's great that you don't care if anyone questions your sexual orientation.
      Fry: I care! I care plenty! I just don't know how to make them stop!
      Salesman: One word: ThunderCougarFalconBird.
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    2. Re:So they've not renamed it? by FattMattP · · Score: 5, Funny

      Continuing with the creatures of the forest theme (bird, fox) I nominate Thunderbunny as the new name.

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  2. Murky by Poster+Nutbag · · Score: 5, Funny

    I switched from some murky client which didn't exactly have a bright outlook regarding spam

    That's geekspeak for Outlook Express, if I remember.

    1. Re:Murky by mattjb0010 · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's geekspeak for Outlook Express

      No, a true geek refers to it as Outbreak Express

    2. Re:Murky by mbbac · · Score: 5, Funny

      When I worked at Microsoft we called it Lookout.

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  3. This is not funny, it is insightful. by Anonytroll · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Actually, that is not a bad point. It is a question if you want brand consciousness and a lot of jokes (you don't change the name to Thunderfox) or you want a similar naming scheme and a lot of jokes (you change the name).
    On the other hand, they might run into trademark-problems once again if they try to change the name of the program to Thunderfox. There are only so many words one can use for a product/company per market niche.

    I'd say this is one of those problems that are best ignored, however not renaming it is the easier way out.

    1. Re:This is not funny, it is insightful. by Finuvir · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's not the current plan. The current plan is for them to retain their current names. They did originally say "don't worry; it's just a codename" but since putting such effort into finding a unique trademark-free name they're now planning on keeping it (witness the new artwork and brand identity work).

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  4. Oh, and the name is staying Thunderbird by sgarrity · · Score: 5, Informative

    As I'm sure lots of people will ask, the Thunderbird name is staying.

  5. IMAP IDLE Support by jaylee7877 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For me, the most important new feature is IMAP IDLE Support. What this means is I can deploy TB to my 1500+ users. They can leave TB open all of the time and recieve instant notification of new messages. Our Courier IMAP Server which uses FAM for Enhanced IDLE Support means IDLE connections are using virtually NILL resources. Rather than polling every x number of minutes which causes a filesystem stat of the mailbox, FAM hooks into the Linux kernel, catches any changes to the mail folder, notifies Courier which in turn notifies the IMAP Client. This rocks!

    1. Re:IMAP IDLE Support by XCorvis · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're deploying a "technology preview" to 1500+ users? Thunderbird is great and all (I use it), but that's ballsy.

  6. Meanwhile by arvindn · · Score: 5, Informative

    Mozilla is starting the drive to firefox 1.0, and Ben Goodger (the firefox guy) is requesting that everyone report/nominate their most favorite bugs so that they have a better chance of getting fixed.

  7. Re:Is there hope for Mozilla? by clontzman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Try to win your boss over away from the "we're a Microsoft Partner" way of thinking! Show him that everytime you violate the standard to appease IE, you are taking money out of your pocket and giving it to Microsoft, and are moving one step closer to a Microsoft-only Internet, complete with Microsoft-only viruses and trojans.

    While I agree with your general concept (which I think is that standards are a good thing and we shouldn't use browser-specific extensions on public-facing Web sites), I don't really understand how making sure sites work in the browser that 90% of my customers use "takes money out of my pocket and gives it to Microsoft." If my customers can't get to my content, they keep their money to themselves and spend it elsewhere.

    Don't make any consessions for IE. In fact, turn IE users away at the door. Put up some links for them to get with the program and download a standards-compliant browser.

    Uh, dude. C'mon. I really think you've gone over the hedge here. People don't want to be hassled when they go to a Web site -- they just want it to work. I'm all for making sure things work in Moz, Safari, etc., but most bosses rightly won't let their employees turn their Web sites into some kind of crusade for the software they prefer.

  8. What's New: by karmatic · · Score: 5, Informative
    What's New:
    • Windows Installer

      Thunderbird now comes with an installer for Windows making it easier than ever to start using Thunderbird!

    • New Default Theme on Mac OS X

      The new Pinstripe theme fits in with the look of Mac OS X.

    • Improved Junk Mail Controls

      The algorithm for the adaptive junk mail controls has been heavily redesigned to learn faster and catch more spam.

    • New Brand Identity

      To be consistent with the Mozilla Foudation's goal of brand identity, Thunderbird has a new logo and supporting artwork thanks to the fine work of the Mozilla Visual Identity team.

    • Other New Features...

      IMAP users can now benefit from support for the IMAP IDLE command which allows the mail server to push notifications such as new mail arriving as soon as it arrives.

      Thunderbird supports server-wide news filters that apply to all newsgroups on a server.

      Thunderbird includes Secure Password Authentication using a new cross-platform NTLM authentication mechanism for IMAP, POP3 and SMTP.

      Mail filters can now mark messages as junk.

      Offline support is an optional download component in the Windows installer and is no longer a separately-downloaded extension.

      Mac OS X users now get new mail notification in the system dock.

      The DOM Inspector is an optional download component in the Windows installer for theme authors.

      Tools > Options > Compose > HTML Options allows you to set up default HTML compose options such as font, size and color.

      Attachments can be opened directly from the compose window to verify their contents before sending.

      Thunderbird now supports the notion of multiple identities per mail account. This makes it easy to have several e-mail addresses which end up going into the same account. Read More about how to set this up.

    • Recently Fixed Bugs

      In the case of a failure when copying a message to an online Sent folder, Thunderbird will now ask if you would like it to try again.

      0.6 on Windows includes several improvements to Simple MAPI that allow it to work with older versions of Microsoft Office.

      Pasting data from an OpenOffice.org spreadsheet no longer pastes random HTML garbage before the actual spreadsheet data into HTML compose.

      Fixed several situations where LDAP connections were left open when using LDAP auto complete or performing searches on LDAP directories.

      Improved view source behavior.

      Mail notification for POP3 messages that are marked deleted or marked read by mail filters no longer occurs.

      The "Mark All Read" keyboard shortcut now works for Linux GTK2.

  9. Include Mozilla Calendar! by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know that some people will flame on about the "small tools" approach, but it would really make sense to tightly integrate Mozilla Calendar into Thunderbird. Like it or not, people have expectations, and the general expectation is that their email program will be a full PIM suite (Calendar, Tasks, Contacts). As nice as Thunderbird is, there's a large segment of the population that will take a look at it and say "No calendar? Then I'll stick with Outlook." And that's a shame, because getting rid of Outlook is one step on the road to getting rid of Windows.

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  10. Important UPGRADE Notes by illegalien · · Score: 5, Informative

    --From the thunderbird webpage--

    Upgraders: DO NOT install Mozilla Thunderbird into a directory containing program files from a previous version. Overwriting files from a previous release WILL cause problems. To re-use the directory of a previous install, the directory must be deleted and recreated, emptied, moved, or renamed. You should not file bugs in Bugzilla if you choose to ignore this step.

    The program directory does not contain profile information; any existing accounts, account settings, options, e-mail, and news messages will remain intact. This release does not require changes to your profile to function properly.

    Important: If you used a prior version of Thunderbird and installed themes OR extensions, you need to do the following or Thunderbird may NOT run properly. Find your profile directory. There should be a sub directory called chrome. Remove everything in chrome. This will not affect your mail data or preferences.

  11. Re:IMAP? by jaylee7877 · · Score: 5, Informative

    As my post above suggests, .6 adds IMAP IDLE support which is an advanced IMAP function only available in a handful of IMAP Clients/Servers but well worth it if you have it. I've found TB's IMAP support to be excellent. It's one of the few clients that can correctly show my Courier IMAP Server's folder tree with all other folders *not* being children of INBOX. It's very fast in grabbing message headers, even on large folders it seems limited only by the bandwidth. It also does a good job of cacheing the info so that the 2nd time I open up a large folder is much quicker than the 1st (unless of course another IMAP client has significantlly changed the existing mail messages). Offline support has also been added with a plugin although I have little reason to try it since most of the time I use TB, I'm connected.

  12. Compacting Mail Folders with Mozilla Mail Client by locknloll · · Score: 5, Informative

    Right-click the folder's name and use "Compact this Folder" from time to time. Removes the leftovers from old mails from the index file. Eudora has the same stuff, for example, so it's not an example for a sucky mail client, but for an architecture I don't really understand because I'm not a developer :-D

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  13. database back-end by chrisvdb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What I would love as a feature in Thunderbird, is the use of a database back-end.

    When you get a mail the headers are parsed and stored in a database... the sender and other receipents are then linked to your contacts that are also stored in a database. Mail folders like we know them now are then just a certain view of your mail (all mail of the last week, unanswered mail, mail from contact X (also if he changed email address in the meantime!), and other user-defined properties (e.g. regarding project Y)).

    Evolution does this to some extend (virtual folders and db storage). But they've stopped where it got really interesting (like the linking to contacts, tasks, user-defined properties, ...).

    It would also be nice if this db can be remote; this way a webmail application could use the same database. In some way this would then be a new IMAP server... but with more flexibility, support for complex queries, virtual folder, and not mail-only.

    Does anybody else think this would be interesting?

  14. Re:Sluggishness by Azureflare · · Score: 5, Informative
    Sorry for replying twice, but I felt I should do so in the circumstances. I previously posted about how I'm still use kmail, and I think kmail is more responsive than thunderbird.

    I just tried thunderbird 0.6. Let me say... Thunderbird 0.6 is VASTLY improved over 0.5. I don't know if it's because this isn't a packaged rpm, but the menus are SO much more responsive than 0.5. Opening a new email takes almost no time at all. I must say, 0.6 is a great improvement over 0.5. I think I may just move over to Thunderbird now, especially since I just found an extension for Mozilla Calendar for Thunderbird.

  15. My two biggest wishlist features by kbmccarty · · Score: 5, Informative

    I switched from Pine to Thunderbird a few weeks ago; here are the most important things I miss:

    • The ability to mark certain lines not to be automatically wrapped when composing a text email. This is important when reporting error messages from compiler output, etc.
    • The ability to include a text file inline in the email message (NOT as an attachment) while composing it. Useful when including config files, quotes from more than one email at once, etc.

    Another feature which would be nice to have (but not nearly as important to me) is support for mbox folders in subdirectories of the top-level mail folder.

    Anyone know whether it's possible to do any of the above in Thunderbird? If not, what's the best way to make the feature request?

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  16. Re:Better spam filters? by SimplexO · · Score: 5, Informative

    What's New?

    Improved Junk Mail Controls

    The algorithm for the adaptive junk mail controls has been heavily redesigned to learn faster and catch more spam.

    To get the best possible experience from the new junk mail controls, we highly recommend that you re-train the filters from scratch. Tools > Junk Mail Controls > Adaptive Filters > Reset Training Data. Be sure to train an equal number of good and junk messages. We recommend several hundred messages of each.

    The enable/disable option for adaptive junk mail detection appears to apply to all accounts (Tools > Junk Mail Controls > Adaptive Filters). It is, however, a per account option. To set the option for a specific account, choose the account in the 'Account:' dropdown on the 'Settings' panel, then switch to the 'Adaptive Filters' panel and set the option. Repeat per account as needed.