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Mitnick Helps Bust Bomb Hoaxer
PhrostyMcByte writes "According to The Register/SecurityFocus: 'Ex-hacker Kevin Mitnick is a hero to the small town of River Rouge, Michigan, after using his tech skills to help officials nab the culprit behind a harrowing series of bomb threats.'" According to the piece, Detective Lt. John Keck "began searching the Internet for technical guidance, which led him to Kevin Mitnick, who'd earlier demonstrated a technique for spoofing Caller ID on the specialty cable network TechTV." Mitnick's comment on the bomb hoaxer? "He wasn't really hacking... he was really just being a jerk."
To the media, what's the difference? Anyone who commits a crime involving a computer is considered a hacker to them...
hacker
n 1: someone who plays golf poorly 2: a programmer for whom computing is its own reward; may enjoy the challenge of breaking into other computers 3: one who works hard at boring tasks
Straight from Dictionary.com
Evolution or ID?
Tell me about it. at my school last year three jerks were accused of raping a girl in the year below them. They were let off with fines and immediately returned to school because there was doubt over whether it was rape or consensual. Why? because she'd once dated one of the guys involved for a month.
Same school, same year, kid borrows a laptop from the school for a weekend as he'd done for months, but this time didn't sign out for it correctly. Suspended and grades withheld. There you go. Borrowing a laptop without proper authorisation is a worse crime than rape in School Land.
(not to mention the ridiculousness of the logical conclusion that if you date one person you could be consenting to have forced violent sex with all their friends)
Your grammar is poor. It's:
Someone set up us the bomb.
parent not offtopic. *67 is the code for blocking caller-id (displays "PRIVATE" on receiving end). too bad my high school blocked any incoming private calls, or my friend and I could have both called out from my house. *shrug*
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Ewwwwww, coconut...
And psychopaths like this always think they're being bullied. That's because they're fucking paranoid and crazy. It's certainly not that kids are inherently paranoid and crazy. Yes, we need to pay more attention to children, but not because they're a threat.
Ugh. I hope that's just the cop mentality speaking. I hope most people don't actually think like that "Keck" guy.
There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
The rape charges are brought by the state, not the school. The school cannot legally punish the kids for crimes not under their jurisdiction. If it happened on school grounds, then perhaps.
The laptop signout could not have been prosecuted by the state, as no crime was committed. He broke school rules (accidently or not) and suffered the consequences.
Nothing in your comment really gets to the point you are trying to make, that popular kids get slaps on the wrist and unpopular kids get leg irons. I don't doubt it happens, but pick more analogous circumstances if you really want to make a case.
-Adam
Uh, he's been able to use the Internet for over a year now.
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Nobody said she was a lesbian. She was making a statement in favor of homosexuality as "part of an English assignment." (It's a good excuse, but they still merit the 2 days suspension.)
Umm unless the rape happened on school ground during school hours, it should be left up to the local police department and DA for final punishment. And even if this rape did happen on school ground and during school hours, this type of matter should be left up to the court room decide. I assume forgeting to checkout a computer is just a school violation, therefore its up for the school to decide.
Have you ever been to a turkish prison?
True. However, nothing will stop the generation of Call Detail Records from every switch through which the call traverses. It's only a matter of time before the CDRs can be chained together to find the (likely) source of the call. In this case, they waited for him to do it again to catch him in the act.
(Note: it can take several days to fetch all the CDRs required to trace a offline call -- an active call can be traced in seconds (w/appropriate telco cooperation.) The more telcos involved, the bigger the pain.)
RES IPSA LOQUITUR - Lat. "the thing speaks for itself." Refers to situations when it's assumed that a person's injury was caused by the negligent action of another party because the accident was the sort that wouldn't occur unless someone was negligent.
It's very likely the police didn't ask the right people the right questions. If I called up Bellsouth to complain about prank calls, the usual operators that man the "main line" cannot do much to help -- they can put in a request to enable "detailed billing" to collect the numbers to then be blocked. HOWEVER, any police department should know to ask for the telco's fraud department or whomever would be handling court ordered phone taps -- as per CALEA, every telco is required to have a single point-of-contact for phone tap requests (that can be a tree of people to address vacations and such...) These are the people who know what to do, and usually the only people with access to all the puzzle pieces (i.e. contacts at other telcos to continue the trace.)
[While I've never been part of a "fraud department", I have worked along side them. I was part of the "committee" (if 4 people count as a committee) drafting the guidelines for handling law enforcement requests: CSRs are to transfer calls from LEAs to the fraud department the instant they know they aren't asking about their own phone service; do not log or discuss calls from LEAs.]
Ssshhhhhh!!!
You keep talking about the "in crowd" and schools and stuff, and Jon Katz'll hear you and come back.
Oh sweet Jesus, I've said his name. We're doomed. DOOMED!!
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Mando
Indeed.... CALEA It's been around long enough that no police force should be unaware of the proper means for requesting call records. If you want CDRs, you don't call Bob down at the CO. (who isn't likely to know how to trace an active call much less fetch the records for calls from last week.)
Actually, rape has the exact same rate of flase reporting as any other violent crime, according to the FBI. And, when combined with the huge numbers of people who do not report rapes that do happen, you are dead wrong. The vast majority of rape allegations are true.
Furthermore, the situations you described with your frat could very well have been rapes. In most, if not all, states, intoxicated individuals can't give consent to have sex, and thus having sex with them is rape. The fact that the DAs didn't end up bringing charges means next to nothing. The level of proof that is needed to get a conviction in a rape case is enormous; a survivor usually has to have some kind of physical evidence. Many times, this will be washed away by the time she decides to go to the police, leaving only the opposing statements of the rapist and his victem.
Regardless of all that, please remeber that one of the most damaging things that you can do to a survivor of rape or sexual assault who discloses to you is to not believe them. Our culture already puts tons of shame and guilt them, so it's a huge deal to come out and admit to being a survivor. They are, in the vast majority of the time, telling the truth. And even if they're not, that's for the police to decide. You should just be supportive. Or just shut up and say nothing.
I don't believe that for a second
Been raped, been there, done that, dragged to a house next door to the place I was visiting and held down while a filthbucket got off inside and all over me.
His defense was we'd both been drinking and it was consensual, and that was enough for him to get off completely free.
I hadn't had a drink. I'd never met the guy before he showed up. It's all too easy for the little boy's club who want to stick their dicks where they don't belong to make excuses for him.
You are right and you are wrong.
About the laptop signout, I completely agree with what you are saying.
About the rape charges, this is a legal grey area. While you are correct about the rape charges being the jurisdiction of the state. But you are wrong in saying that the school can not legally punish the kids for this crime. What brings the case under the jurisdicition of the school, is the fact that the rape allegations are between several male students and one female student from the same school. If the students were all from different schools, then the school would have absolutely no jurisidiction. The fact that the students are from the same school does change this though.
If a kid is caught smoking pot in the privacy of this home. The school would have no jurisdiction. Assuming of course, he is not an athelete, as most schools have some student athelete agreement which essentially becomes a legal contract.
The book was much better than the movie, IMHO.
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