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Knoppix v3.4 Hits The Mirrors
zxflash writes "SolidZ.com reports the latest update to KNOPPIX; the popular Linux based OS has just been released. Version 3.4 includes the version 2.6.5 Linux Kernel and improved hardware detection. It can be downloaded from one of the mirrors listed on the KNOPPIX homepage..." rduke15 adds "Koffice has been dropped for space reasons, as well as LaTex.
From the forum: 'Download using bittorrent tracker at http://torrent.unix-ag.uni-kl.de:6969/. Remember: Leave your bittorrent client running after the download is finished!' And this is the complete list of included packages."
sorry, it's not getting slow at all.
it's obvious the parent had that ready before the article was even posted to the non-subscribed crowd. Sorry karma whore.
KOffice is a relatively large package. Why include it when most are going to use OpenOffice, which is included, anyway? It's a waste of space, which is at a serious premium on any LiveCD. I support the decision, though I have nothing against KOffice.
DMCA, Hollings, Palladium. What might have sounded like paranoia is now common sense.
because, "kid genius", most places DEMAND that it be in MS word format. I fyou think making your lame software political statement when getting hired is going to take you places, well look no farther than McD.
You ran linux for 5 years, gave it up b/c 1) you needed to play games (what did you do for the previous 5 years?) and 2) you couldn't get abiword/open office to save a .doc file (File => Save As... not so hard).
Yet being a hardened Linux veteran, Knoppix, which comes with the same X server and abiword/open office as every other distro has switched you back?
Ok, I'm calling shennigans. When you said "I had used linux" did you really mean "I had linux installed on a secondary partion and booted into it once a year when I wanted to be 1337"?
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Out of curiosity, why would you want to use anything other than bittorrent? It seems like the best way to download in every way.
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Can someone supply the command line for grabbing the iso? Include flags if used/recommended?
Is there an X version of bittorrent on Knoppix 3.3?
Will running bittorrent open up any security holes? I'm behind a nat device
Will bittorrent work behind the nat device?
Thanks from all of us newbies!
Courtesy.
Every P2P application since napster has started in the Windows system tray in order to increase the amount of stuff available at once. BT's design means that it can't work quite the same way - stuff is only shared while your downloading the thing, and rather than share a pool of files, you share individual files while your connected to a tracker.
It's not unusual (though thankfully not too usual) to be downloading via BT and all your seeders vanish or no current seeder has all parts of the file your after. Staying connected for an extra 5-10 minutes is a simple way to increase traffic, and is generally considered polite.
This is a pretty hot topic on the forums and mailing lists devoted to Knoppix. For DVD is, obviously, space for more programs. Against, we have the fact that not everyone has DVD burners, DVD burners are still much more expensive than CD burners, DVDs cost quite a bit more, and downloading DVD images would suck up even more bandwidth. Some of these would be mitigated by maintaining two images (one DVD, one CD) but then there's the PITA of having two images to maintain!
What I'd like to see is Knoppix create sort of a framework DVD that you can use to remaster your own DVD. That's sort of the best of both worlds, I think.
DVD burners may be more expensive, but they are still less than US$100 and the blanks are still less than $1.
And maintaining two images isn't a pain. Presumably they script creation of the thing anyway, like normal people.
Karma: It's all a bunch of tree-huggin' hippy crap!
When I first grabbed the torrent (English ver), there were a few seeds online and a couple hundred leechers. I got about 50 k/s to start out.
About an hour later, there were over 120 seeds and thousands of leechers. I was getting over 250 k/s.
How many other distribution methods can you say actually get FASTER when the bulk of the slashbots arrive on the scene? Bittorrent, my friends, is a beautiful thing.
Sure, when there aren't many folks on a torrent, its not that fast. And if there aren't any seeders you can't get the whole thing. But when a crowd this size comes into play, Bittorrent just makes sense.
I'm really surprised to see as many complaints as I saw in this thread. Especially given that bt is free, and that the speed has ramped up to rediculous proportions.
I managed to download a 696.2 MB file, which was posted on the front page of Slashdot, in 1h 25m. To me, thats absolutely stunning.
Go Bittorrent! And, if I may say so, thank you slashbots! When else can you say "thank you" for people slashdotting something? (Well, unless its a spammers IP...)
// harborpirate
// Slashbots off the starboard bow!
Hmm...I actually use LaTeX far more than I use a regular word processor. That's not good.
I understand why the Knoppix guys did it tho...space on live CDs is a pretty big problem, and I suppose they had no choice if they wanted to upgrade KDE, OpenOffice.org, GIMP, etc.
It irks me, but I can live with it. And it's not like Knoppix is my main distro anyway--I mostly just play around with it and use it as an advocacy tool.
I support the Center for Consumer Freedom
here's what i dont really understand...
since this is a live CD, why would they take out koffice and latex while leaving development libraries in? sure developers need these things, but they would be compiling their large projects running their OS entirely off a liveCD. this is true too for hdd install - it includes a lot of junk that makes everything slow. i love knoppix and it's excellent hardware, but maybe this is one of the improvements it can make?
also, it would be great if the hdd installation tool would allow installing over seperate partitions, except everything under one....
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If there are so many people wanting it, how come none of those people are willing to do something about it? Except bitching and moaning, of course.
It really isn't that hard to do. So make your own DVD, it's as 'official' as any Knoppix version there is.
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