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Projected 'Average' Longhorn System Is A Whopper
greg_barton writes "At first I thought this was a joke, but this article from Microsoft Watch confirms it: 'Microsoft is expected to recommend that the 'average' Longhorn PC feature a dual-core CPU running at 4 to 6GHz; a minimum of 2 gigs of RAM; up to a terabyte of storage; a 1 Gbit, built-in, Ethernet-wired port and an 802.11g wireless link; and a graphics processor that runs three times faster than those on the market today.'"
Don't you remember the days when microsoft was hyping the first version of windows, but they never actually produced the first real implementation until after apple has release their version of the GUI OS.
I think this is what microsoft is doing. Promising the world, without an actual line of code, then producing it years later after someone else has already made the product.
It's a big deal because this is Slashdot, and we need something from Microsoft to bitch about daily, especially if it's Longhorn.
This isn't a pro-Linux site--it's become an anti-Microsoft site. Where's the article about the I/O file regressions happening in kernel 2.6? Oh, that's right, it would break the hegemony.
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There's some bloody punctuation. Come back when you've learned to use it mIRCboy.
Then I remembered that the dafault is for the OS to handle the pagefile size.
Why 1 terabyte of hard drive space when you have 2 gig of memory?
But, then I remembered that the OS is Windows and therefore shit.
You mean that DRM they've been saying from the beginning is optional?
I forgot, copyright holders shouldn't have the ability to control anything they make, so DRM is automatically bad.
Because none of these resources were confirmed by anything. They were projected guesses by the guys who wrote it.
:P
But, hey, nothing beats a good chance to assume rumors are fact in order to bash "M$" some more, right? Meanwhile, let's take 9 seconds to load OpenOffice...
Because you never do any serious research on the web, nobody else needs to?
/. discussion without some incoherent ramblings thrown in.
No one needs that many tabs open - the function is better served with bookmarks. In fact, you can even bookmark sets of tabs (tab 1-n) as one bookmark!
So bugs are OK, as long as they only affect other people in their productivity?
It's not a bug. Just like it's not a bug that I can't use my $500 computer to host multiple terabytes of RAID drives. If it were as overpowered as you seem to think it should be, it might be more crash prone, and it would certainly be more bloated.
Actually, Firefox is designed to browse the web. That's why it's called a web browser. The memory leaks and the crashing are not intentional. This is called a bug. [...] So Firefox isn't supposed to be a web browser? Better go and tell the developers then.
And it does browse, quite well. But rational use is necessary. Is it rational to complain that OpenOffice runs slowly when I have 50+ documents open? No. Just as your complaint is not rational.
Not that it would bother you, obviously. [...] I guess it wouldn't really be a
Ad hominem meter is now pinned.
I don't know what to say about this, really. Do you suffer from narcolepsy?
Ad hominem, AND insulting to those folks who actually do have narcolepsy or similar conditions - I don't have it myself, but I know it sucks big time. Not a laughing matter.
Yeah, I know. IHBT. IHL. HAND.
What matters is that he and his companies designed software that way. Whether he actually uttered those exact works or not makes little difference.
What this is really about is the question of whether the man and the company reached their current position through technical competence or through business acumen and luck. I think it's pretty clear that it's the latter.
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already do that, and I don't feel a need to duplicate the work. BTW, these are non-troll posts, as opposed to the one you linked to. Oh yeah, this, this and this are the relevant Bugzilla entries. Of course all these people are abusing the poor browser, right?
All that said, I find it quite odd that you wouldn't use the tab feature extensively, considering this post of yours (the avatar suits you). But maybe you just play Everquest all the time.
OTOH, I had a look at your site, and all you have there is some IE specific JavaScript stuff, and you also mention that you use IE as your browser ... strange, huh?
Thanks for sparing me the slew of obscenities, BTW. Oops, no you didn't ... too bad. Well, maybe you can say some nice things about my mother in your reply?
Did you know you can fertilize your lawn with used motor oil?
10. The recycle truck has already taken away your old p.c.
9. You're thankful for getting that Bush tax cut.
8. Bill Gates has never steered you wrong before.
7. A general willingness to bend over.
6. You will dance but wont, because people stare.
5. The liquid nitrogen for the cooling system has arrived.
4. You won't even ask for a reach around.
3. No back bone
2. Fat wallet
1. No Brain
How does someone enforcing copyright restrictions on their material have anything whatsoever to do with a car I bought that you would turn off by remote?
Do you even know what a copyright violation is, or how flagrant it is these days? PC game makers can barely make money as it is. With a DRM license, you'd never have to enter a CD key. You'd have the DRM license on your computer, so it would just run.
Please, get outside of Slashdot once in a while. This place wants you to think absolutely everything outside of OSS is bad, evil, and "bloatware."
I expected much better from the audience here. It seems so far that almost every +4 or +5 comment at this moment is blaming MS and arguing that nobody needs that kinds of performance for a desktop PC, so would MS please stop selling bloated OSes. Shit, and I thought slashdotters were NOT a bunch of mindless drones.
I am personally quite anti-MS, but in this I am 100% on their side. First, the humankind does benefit enormously from faster processors and if you are forced to buy a new Intel or AMD every 4 or 5 years, so be it. Second, there is a huge potential for further software (OS in particular) development and if MS is going to catch up, so much the better. We need dynamically indexed database filesystem that keep every version of your work. We need your computer to keep track of everything you see, say, hear, write or do (for you). We need better voice synthesis, voice recognition and image recognition. We need at least some rudimentary AI in everyday applications. We need hi-definition video and surround music on desktop. We need dynamic real-time evolving networks, uniting smart devices to better serve you. We need home automation, media centres and robotic control centres. There is plenty of stuff to do and the iron MS is aiming for is only adequate for the tasks. Third, hard disks still tend to be filled up and CPU still have something to do (even though most of the time they are relatively idle, we still need better peak performance). I've got 480Gb of disk space for a desktop PC and it gets used up pretty quickly. And I don't even have a fast Net connection (256K only). And I can't really delete anything. Fourth, your individual upgrade history doesn't mean shit. Fifth, games ARE important. With average American 40+ y.o. woman playing 6 hours of online games, you can't get some sort of idea of how computer games are important to our society today. The fact that you run Linux doesn't mean everyone else should suddenly stop playing games. And games will use any power you can give them, even though at the moment ATi and nVidia just made a huge leap in productivity and appear to oversaturate existing games with raw power. Sixth, don't you ever thing that MS is stupid. Yes, Bill himself is no genius and they ignored Internet and Linux for too long, but they are still the number one software company in the world. Trust them at least a little bit, won't you?
I fully expect to meat the HDD space requirement as soon as I can fit that into a standard computer and CPU and RAM when I do my next major upgrade (2006?). As for graphics processing power, my card (Radeon 9600 Pro) is already 3-4 times slower than the recently released monsters and in 2-3 years I will definitely upgrade to X800 or probably something better.
Future Wiki -- If you don't think about the future, you cannot have one.
(And I'll up an ante on this one, I've spent 8 years at uni doing journalism at an academic level ;)
Wow. Planning to graduate anytime? I mean, seriously. Any random Slashbot has more credibility that anyone who's been at university for 8 years!
In future, better to say "I studied journalism at university", that way everyone will just assume you graduated in 3-4 years like anyone else.
find that puzzling, especially since you're a Microsoft Zealot who has to defend anything and everything that Microsoft does and who drools over their offerings, no matter how lackluster.
Okay, cite an example. I'll be waiting.
You're reaching. They mentioned nothing about the "Windows shell"--you're the one making that distinction.
Next time, attempt something called comprehension.
I'm not "reaching." It is absolute fact that IE is tied to the Windows shell. And it is because of this reason that Microsoft said IE could not be removed from Windows.
Note that I never said they weren't lying (they were). You're just being one of those insane stalking ACs who spends idle time in their college classes hunting down people to troll and calling them "M$ zealots." Good luck having a life.