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Projected 'Average' Longhorn System Is A Whopper
greg_barton writes "At first I thought this was a joke, but this article from Microsoft Watch confirms it: 'Microsoft is expected to recommend that the 'average' Longhorn PC feature a dual-core CPU running at 4 to 6GHz; a minimum of 2 gigs of RAM; up to a terabyte of storage; a 1 Gbit, built-in, Ethernet-wired port and an 802.11g wireless link; and a graphics processor that runs three times faster than those on the market today.'"
640K was enough for anyone. Reckon not....
We got to the moon on less computing power than a Commodore 64 and Longhorn needs 2 Gigs o RAM. Amazing.
When longhorn comes out in 2008.
It takes a lot of resouces to keep people shackled.
..that'd better be one hell of a game of Solitaire.
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computers in the future will be better than the ones we have now.
on a side note, i can't wait to get one of those.
zing
-- RLJ
And mozilla needs 4 gigs and a hyperthreading P4 to start in under 4 seconds.
They will send me one of those machines if I offer to test Longhorn for them? - Please... I promise to keep Longhorn on the machine for at least a week.
- Your stupidity got you into this mess, why can't it get you out? -Will Rogers
Now IE will run as fast as its linux-based counterparts!
*ducks*
If XP is any indication- you'll need 1TB of storage because the system itself + virutal memory will take up 500GB.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
Wow, with that kind of processing power you can play a heck of a lot of games of Global Thermonuclear War!
~~Guildencrantz
Penguin Trivia #46: Animals who are not penguins can only wish they were. -- Chicago Reader 10/15/82
...or he'll be spinning in his grave.
Imagine what? I'd imagine with Longhorn installed on those, it would about the equivalent of 2 486's running windows 95 :P
Join the TWIT army now!
If the current state of Windows security is anything to go by, and if Joe Average has an 802.11g card in his machine in the future, we'll all have free internet via our neighbours poorly secured wireless link. Go Microsoft! :)
If I said something embarrassing I would want to deny it too.
Karma: It's all a bunch of tree-huggin' hippy crap!
"Did Bill Gates Really Say That?"
Yes he did.
"False memes that never die just make people look ignorant."
Quoting Wired is the sign of ignorance.
What the artcile didn't say was that this computing power was needed primarily for a new feature of Longhorn - the Microsoft Streaming Patch System or MSPS.
If one graphs Microsoft's patch releases over time, it is clear that the time between patches approaches zero. No one likes to patch a aysstem, just to see the next day a new patch or twelve have been released over night!
So the MSPS will stream patches to all servers in a continuous feed. Of course, to install these patches takes bandwidth (1 GB Either), to download, both CPU power (dual 4GHz) and ram (2 GB) to install and a lot of room (1 TB to be exact) to store them all.
+1 Sarcastic
I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
What? I'm not even running 3.0 HT and I'm not average (hey, I'm posting on /. that = not average)
/. to be not average, when you meant to compare them.
Oh great, you just assigned posting on
Please run lint on your posts from now on.
In a response to Microsofts recommendations, Windows users today recommended that "For that hardware, Longhorn better have an average uptime of 200 years, a no-virus lifetime guarantee and a paper clip with a 180 IQ AI system that can actually tell that you really want to write a letter by reading your mind and can write your 50 page report for you."
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Let's go smash some looms.
And why exactly would I need a 1GB Ethernet port? Maybe to connnect my existing 2.4ghz Athlon to, which according to Microsoft, by that time would be relegated to Firewall status?
Sunday you're Thinking Different, Monday you're a huge tool, paying too much and waiting to think like everyone else.
How can you imply that Mozilla is bloated.
It doesn't even have a built in operating system.
Didn't you hear? Longhorn is written in Java.
We'll need powerful computers to
work with Palladium...
my dual proc G5 makes the spec.... oh wait
These are the requirements only if you've got Clippy enabled.
|>oug
On the other hand, by the time longhorn comes around...
Mac OS will still be more technically advanced than Longhorn.
The new apple PCs will only run at 3ghz or so, but will continue to completely school anything from Intel/Microsoft.
The OS will still comfortably run on an 800mhz G4
Steve jobs will manage to create a pointing device with no buttons at all. Mac users will claim this to be a revolutionary feature.
-- If you try to fail and succeed, which have you done? - Uli's moose
Bah. And I suppose next youre going to tell me that Kevin Mitnick never hacked into a computer by whisling hayes modem codes into a prison telephone.
"640k ought to be enough for anyone" -- Bill Gates
There, feel better now?
but it is a public secret that such a system should also have:
;)
- a USB microwave installed
- a deflector shield
- 2 plasma coils
- a fusion reactor a power supply
- seatbelts
- BIO-DRM-authentication
and so on
Privacy is terrorism.
Why 1 terabyte of hard drive space?
Then I remembered that the dafault is for the OS to handle the pagefile size.
"She's a West Texas girl, just like me" - G.W Bush Iraqis
Where are your powers of deduction? It's a common enough meme, it's posted under a story about Microsoft... Should we just assume that you lack the mental fortitude to figure this one out, or that you really enjoy ignoring the obvious if things aren't specifically spelled out for you? I bet you like correcting speeling errrors too, huh?
Two words.
Clippy's back.
Mod me down and I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine...
Okay, I know I'm way off topic but I read the article in that link and I'd really like to know what the following at the bottom of the article was all about:
Other favorite feedback from this column: A woman (a Wal-Mart shopper, no doubt) emailed in outrage that I had used the word "blow job" in a public forum. "You are disgusting," she messaged. "How dare you use a word like 'blow-job' in your column, you fucking moron?"
Wow. I mean.. just... Wow.
I'm a 2000 man.
Read the effing article, they're finally taking out Notepad and forcing you to use Wordpad, aka write.exe. That's why the specs are so high. Nobody else here seems to have noticed. Write is a pretty CPU intensive piece of software.
Yours Sincerely, Michael.
And they were demoing it on the great new 6 Ghz four-core Athlon 128 with the new WD 1 TB disk drive. Yeah right. And I just saw Tux gliding past my window.
It doesn't even have a built in operating system. Or a lisp interperter, or a text editor!! Its a terrible emacs clone!
--- Justin Dearing http://www.justaprogrammer.net/ We're just programmers.
Correction, NORAD computer :)
You should drive a Jaguar XK16, grow your own spare body parts in a bathtub cloning lab, eat only VitaProtein tabs, and have a pair of 1.8-ton antigravity boots.
You will have the option to have your blood siphoned over the Vascularnet by Citibank Direct Withdrawal once per month to pay off your New Software Loan.
Longhorn will be your media server (replacing the cable box, VCR, Tivo, and DVD player), play games via your television (replacing game consoles), interface with any networkable appliance in your home (refrigerator, heating and cooling system, alarm system) and provide a centralized control panel...
That high-end PC will sit in a closet and be accessed via 5.8ghz wi-fi through a set-top box attached to your HD capable TV, thin client portables, and touch screens on your "Longhorn Enabled" appliances.
Your Longhorn PC will be on the net and everything connected to it will be accessible (i.e. check your refrigerator inventory via a personalized web-based panel so you can prep a grocery list to pick up on the way home). Eventually, you'll walk into your house on a 48 degree (farenheit) winter day, and your home will be a sweltering 95 degrees (farenheit) inside, courtesy of the W64.HVACdemon virus, written by some pointy-headed 15 year old in Holland.
That's Bill's ultimate goal: to squeeze Microsoft "technology" into every nook and cranny of your life until everything you do has some Microsoft code enabling it or making it inaccessible unless you pay Bill. And that's why such huge specs are needed.
-- Greg
Start a happiness pandemic
Which is why Longhorn PCs will also double as the Easy-Bake Ovens (TM) of the 21st Century. Educational fun for the whole family!
Yes... I'm patenting this idea. (Does anyone know a good patent lawyer? TIA.)
Yes, of course, so that the viruses can run faster, corrupt a greater amount of data and spread more efficiently.
I'm not really a web designer, I just play one on the Internet.
the guys at NetBSD have decided that Longhorn will not be the only OS to run on a Whopper and have ported NetBSd to run on various burgers including the Whopper, Big Mac, and all of Wendy's architectures.
No, those specs are fine. Microsoft is about to announce that Longhorn will debut in 2007
from Microsoft Watch confirms it:
But WHO WOULD BUY A WRISTWATCH FROM MICROSOFT, for Mingus' sake?
He said cite it -- not recite it.
I'm reminded of the famous quote:
"Windows and the Mac OS have advocates. Linux has apologists."
There's an early scene where the crew is coming out of hibernation and a computer screen is slowly scrolling text. One of the partygores said, "One hundred years from now and they still haven't done anything about how slow Windows boots up?"
Someone piped up, "Of course they've done something - they're shipping a hibernation unit with each copy!"
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Of course we need 2 gigs of RAM! How else could we run the new and improved animated Paperclip?
I am posting with Safari which has about five windows open, each with about 20 tabs.
.. err ... better than yours)
Beat that!
(My browser is bigger
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Longhorn upgrades will mean when I dumpster dive for my next work station I can do much,much better than a Pent 166MMX.
Must remember to thank Bill for XP release and all my free linux boxes.
Great tools do only ONE thing, but do that ONE thing very, very well.
You call that making perfect sense? Was it even english?
Oh god no! Don't mention his name - he might come back!
That wasn't whistling, it was his cell-mate helping him squeal like a piggy.
Which means it should be on the shelves by December 2009
loyalty above all, save honor
heh I was playing 10 Mpeg/Avi movies and 10 mp3s whist playing Quake at the same time with no skipping on a pentium 166mhz with 32mb of Ram on BeOS in 1999, wow it took Microsoft what 7 years to catch up =)
Having read TFA, it seems Microsoft is also using "Lonestar" for their tablet edition of XP, which adds on top of the already Western-sounding "Longhorn".
Then a bunch of other codenames are listed, seeming to be a mishmash of various other cultural/mythical references, for example "Avalon", "Janus", "Athens" and "Cobra".
To me this sounds remarkably like Tarantino's Kill Bill vol2 which was a somewhat epilleptic combination of many elements, with an underlying western theme. All of these other codenames mentioned will be based on the underlying "Longhorn" Western themed Kernel.
We may hope for it, but I doubt if we'll get to see anyone kill Bill.
Maybe that's why it's taking so long to release Longhorn.... they're still trying to compile it!
rather, a WOPR
The first one that comes to my mind is "Eight to Twelve Years at Hard Labor" but I'm perhaps a little too quick to rule out capital measures.
Well, to be fair, emacs doesn't have a text editor either.
Whence? Hence. Whither? Thither.
So, "requirements" are:
-Gigabit ethernet,
-2 Gigs of RAM,
-802.11g and bluetooth,
-dual core@4 GhZ (well OK, dual proc @ 2x2 GhZ),
-half a terabyte of storage
Oh, wait... Is microsoft saying we should be getting today's Powermac to run their 2006 OS?
*ducks*
Hello! I'm a disaster waiting to happen!
how else will skynet have enough juice to defend the country?
|plastic....or gasoline?|
Judgement Day, Clippy becomes self-aware. Corrupts all Word documents.
I know you are psychotic, but please make an effort.
He wasn't talking about memory, he was talking about dollars earned per minute. And he didn't mean anyone, he meant himself.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
.... a dual-core CPU running at 4 to 6GHz; a minimum of 2 gigs of RAM; up to a terabyte of storage; a 1 Gbit, built-in, Ethernet-wired port and an 802.11g wireless link; and a graphics processor that runs three times faster than those on the market today.
And it STILL won't run Doom3.
I'm not normally an irrational zealous dickhead, but I figure "When in Rome..."
Oh yeah? Well I've got, um, 6 computers with, uh, 12 windows each, with...100, yeah 100 tabs in each of those! and a partidge in a pear tree.
We may experience some slight turbulence and then...explode. -Capt. Mal Reynolds
Imagine a beowulf cluster of Longhorn PCs...
Anyone else suspectable to the idea that clustering such bloat might slow down time?
Not Buzzword 2.0 compliant. Please speak english.