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Microsoft Reward Leads to Arrest of Sasser Suspect

tritone writes "According to this article on CNET, it was a reward from Microsoft that led to the arrest of the perpertrator of the Sasser Windows Worm. This is the first success for Microsoft's Antivirus Award Program, a $5 million fund to reward people for coming forward with information about those who release major worms and viruses."

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  1. Note to self... by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Funny


    Don't go bragging about your next virus release.

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  2. Microsoft Rewards by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While I do agree that they need to do better (not more) auditing of code, I also think it is admirable that they are taking responsibility for the damage in some way. Props to Microsoft.
    Suggestion, instead of suing security companies who find and point out vulnerabilities they should implement rewards there. For example, if xyz security found a vulnerability they could either
    A: release it to the news/public and risk MS ire
    or
    B: Submit it confidentially to the MS bug track for a hefty reward
    Yes, that lacks disclosure but it is a healthier system than now exists.

    1. Re:Microsoft Rewards by toopc · · Score: 5, Insightful
      How about paying for the time of all the admins that have been running around patching systems to get rid of it?

      The patch for Sasser was available 3 weeks before the virus was released. I don't know about you, but I'd rather pay an admin to install a patch before the virus hits, than to pay him because he's busting his ass fixing a problem that he should have avoided.

  3. That depends... by PetoskeyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    The $5 Million reward is only payable in Vouchers for Microsoft Software.

  4. More validation of Microsoft's central philosophy: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Specifically: You can buy anything.

  5. Good like the lesser evil? by Clinoti · · Score: 5, Funny
    Other people are not happy that this guy was caught because you have to subtract the disappointment from the companies that profit from viruses, and adware, and spyware. Just another angle to look at.

    I wonder if MS can keep up this effort and if we'll eventually start to see sponsored virii added to the real TCO for windows OS'. Oh wait.

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  6. Re:Business model . . . by ion++ · · Score: 5, Funny

    The information in the safety deposit is a note saying:

    1. Write worm
    2. Find someone in severe financial trouble
    3. Have that person release the worm from home computer
    4. Turn that person in and collect the reward
    5. Place 75% in a high interest foreign account and keep the rest
    6. After the guy gets out of jail, send him a key to a safety deposit with all the information he needs to start a new life
    7. Profit

  7. access by Beer_Smurf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am amazed, with the number of open access points, that someone ever gets caught.Guess they can't help bragging to their friends.

  8. Let's get this over with! by ites · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Any strategy contains the seeds of its own failure. In this case, bribing criminals to hand-over their own is a classic but short-term solution.

    Firstly, it sets the stage for blackmail. If one isolated hacker is worth $5m, how much is an unreleased worm worth? Probably much, much more. I'd not be surprised if MS regularly get asked for money upfront before worms are released. Paying out will only make this worse.

    Secondly, it is a Darwinian filter. Yes, you can pay to get hold of an isolated criminal. No, you cannot use this tactic against criminal gangs. $5m is not a lot when compared to the value of a large botnet. Setting bounties will eliminate the free-lancers and leave the stage open for more organized criminals who will probably be more agressive in using zombied PCs for criminal acts (child porn, DDoS, etc.)

    Thirdly, it is prejudicial and likely to lead to the arrest of innocent people. Given that any zombied PC can be used to launch a worm attack, how can any evidence be trusted? Confessions, too, are unreliable. Bounties are rapidly turned into lynchings.

    Lastly, it is a distraction from the real issue: Windows' fundamental security weaknesses. Microsoft must release a secure Windows within the next 12 months or risk permanent damage to their brand. Paying bounties for worm writers fools no-one: Windows remains insecure and there remain an unlimited supply of smart criminals happy to take advantage of that.

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  9. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here's a better way to put it.

    If the doors in your house are falty and won't lock at all, then someone breaks in, who is to blame? The intruder, or the company that sold you the defective doors?

    I say both.

    And because the "door company" is paying to find the intruders after they have broken in does not mean it solves the problem, maybe they should fix the locks first. That sounds like a reasonable idea.

  10. Re:Why? by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Your analogy is flawed.

    It is like saying that if I leave my back door unlocked at night, I am to blame if someone breaks in.

    It's not like a door on your house. It's more like you're a tenant in a large apartment block in a bad neighborhood, and the landlord hasn't installed working locks on any of the apartments.

    I say I have a gun, and if someone breaks in, they are getting shot.

    But in this case you don't have a gun, nor can you get one. There's just about nothing that you can do as an individual to retaliate or even track down the perpetrators.

    It's more like this: After years of complaints, the negligent landlord decided to hire a private investigator. After almost a year, this PI has managed to track down just one out of the hundreds of criminals harassing the neighborhood. BFD.

    Maybe if it was not for the virus writers, the cost of Windows would be cheaper.

    Maybe if it weren't for thieves, the cost of apartments would be cheaper. They wouldn't need security services or door locks. Unfortunately, that's a pipe dream. In the real world, you're not ever going to avoid paying for security. Deal with it.

    Microsoft, the brilliant businessmen that they are, has actually managed to avoid or push off onto others the full costs of security for quite some time. However, even they are not be able to avoid the inevitable forever.

    They are going now to pay to fix their mistakes with some fraction of their pile of cash, but more importantly, they are going to have to design security into their software up front. This is going to significantly slow down their pace of churning their software updates. This loss of some of their competetive edge is going to be the real price that they pay.

    I think it is horrible for someone to defend a criminal because the criminal had oppertunity to commit a crime.

    Likewise, it's bad to defend negligence on the part of those responsible for providing security measures by saying "Sure the security was badly flawed, but if there weren't any bad guys in this world, we wouldn't need security!"