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Orbitz Sharing Customer Credit Card Information

tstorm writes "ConsumerAffairs.com has a warning about Orbitz and their affiliation with a company called MWI. Apparently numerous people who have booked travel through Orbitz are finding unauthorized $9.95 monthly charges on their credit card bills from MWI for membership in a 'discount entertainment service,' despite that fact that MWI doesn't appear to provide any actual product or service. It's also very difficult to opt-out of this membership, some people have gotten refunds for what they were already charged only to have another charge appear the following month."

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  1. this stuff never happens to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    maybe it's because I

    1) READ THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS .. people think I'm some kind of dork for reading them all the time (which I am, of course :) but that's where they hide this bullshit. READ IT BEFORE CLICKING!

    2) I use a one-time virtual number from Citibank. Not sure if this can thwart the scam but they seem to do the trick.

    3) READ THE TERMS!

    1. Re:this stuff never happens to me by Electrum · · Score: 2, Informative

      I use a one-time virtual number from Citibank. Not sure if this can thwart the scam but they seem to do the trick.

      Neat. And it's free.

    2. Re:this stuff never happens to me by ln+-sf+head+ass · · Score: 3, Informative

      AMEX used to have this--I wonder if they killed it because too many of their merchants didn't like getting stiffed on recurring billing services. I'll have to get a card from Citibank now--it's great not having to worry about signing up for some service and forgetting to cancel after the end of the month then having them hit the card again and again. At least until Citibank drops the service, too.

  2. Bastards by elmegil · · Score: 5, Informative

    MWI have been doing this in conjunction with Harris Publishing (aka those idiots who call you up trying to sell you class reunion directories) for a long time. Just WONDERFUL to see Orbitz in bed with them.

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  3. Browse-wrap conditions by pdcryan · · Score: 3, Informative

    Scary as it sounds, many courts have found that similar "browse-wrap" and "click wrap" conditions are valid contracts. So long as you have to affirmatively agree to the conditions, and either are presented with them, or giving the option to read them, they can be valid.

    For some background on these types of contacts check out:

    http://gsulaw.gsu.edu/lawand/papers/su03/darden_th orpe/

    It's hard to tell from the consumer warning if that's the case here, of if they're just jerks and are overtly committing fraud.

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  4. More Info by tstorm · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is the Orbitz response and the Better Business Bureau's take on the issue.

  5. Orbitz Orig Press Release... by sahtanax · · Score: 4, Informative
    Here's the Orbitz side of it... the Original Press Release

    IMHO, Clicking 'yes' 2x and entering your e-mail address, while definitely interactive, is not sufficient enough process to allow sale of your CCard info. I'd prefer an e-mail/reply system, or something more explicit

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    Orbitz Statement on Inaccurate Media Reports Regarding Memberworks (MWI) Connections

    Chicago, IL, April 20, 2004---Orbitz has partnered with MemberWork's Connections program to offer customers increased savings opportunities at America's most popular retailers and restaurants. MemberWorks assures us that it follows National Best Marketing Practices that go far beyond its competitors in pro-consumer protections and the company maintains a "no questions asked" refund policy.

    To ensure Orbitz's customers are aware they are signing up for a paid membership, they must enter their email address twice and click "yes" to enroll in the Connections program. Each step of the sign-up process includes disclosures about the program and how much and when the customer will be billed. Customers who change their minds about membership receive ongoing opportunities from Memberworks to cancel and request a full refund through its "no questions asked" policy.

  6. MWI settled a similar lawsuit in 2001 by Shiifty · · Score: 2, Informative
    From http://www.heartlandbbb.org/commonreport.html?bure au=omaha&compid=7000028&code=

    "On April 27, 2001, the California Attorney General announced that MemberWorks and its affiliates had settled charges of misleading telemarketing practices. The sale of a 30-day free trail membership with a "negative option" cancellation resulted in complaints from consumers who were upset to find charges of $49 and $89 on their credit card accounts. Without admitting liability, MemberWorks agreed to pay $1.5 million in civil penalties and costs. The firm also agreed to change its' business practices and improve notice to purchasers."

    MWI paid out 1.5 mil without admitting guilt -- hopefully they'll be hit hard enough to sink them this time.