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Japanese Cell Phones Offer a Glimpse of the Future

Dynamoo writes "Vodafone K.K. have announced a new range of phones, available exclusively in Japan which easily beat everything else in terms of features. In particular, two phones from Sharp, the V402SH and V602SH between them boast a TV tuner, camera with optical zoom, virtual karaoke machine and dog bark translater (woof woof), according to this review. Perhaps some features are more useful than others, but with a bit of luck we'll see these features in worldwide mobiles sometime in 2005. In the meantime I guess I'll just have to learn to speak dog by myself."

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  1. Do we need these features? by Espectr0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They actually want to make a regular computer inside the cell phone.. I actually want a cell phone that can be heard everywhere, with a nice battery and perhaps send pictures and such (which can already be done).

    1. Re:Do we need these features? by Stopmotioncleaverman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It depends on who you define as 'we'.

      You and I, it would appear not. The general, cellphone-buying market? Maybe.

      It has seemed to me for a while that cellphones are really trying to be PDAs. But then if you want a device that does everything that a PDA can do..........why not just buy a freakin' PDA? And if you want a portable computer..........why not just buy a freakin' PDA?

      I want a cellphone that I can walk around with, and that goes bring bring hello. Cellular. Phone. If I'd wanted a PDA, I'd have bought one.

      However, kids and city boy executives with shiny suits, who are, let's face it, the main market sector buying new phones, seem to want the latest, greatest, smartest, flashiest, most function-packed portable computers. And if there's demand for it, then cellphone manufacturers will make it. It's just a shame as far as I'm concerned that I have to buy some bloated device full of functions I'll never use and will chew up battery power at the rate of a small fish-gutting farm.

      I know, if I want something that just goes bring bring hello, I could just carry a Soviet brick around with me. Unfortunately the last time I tried my soviet brick on my network it seemed to fall off regularly. That and the fact that my pockets aren't made of high-tensile reinforced nanofibres to carry the extreme weight :)

    2. Re:Do we need these features? by moxruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

      if you want a portable computer..........why not just buy a freakin' PDA?

      Because a PDA, while useful, is bulky and an additional gadget to carry around - if your going to carry a PDA, it might as well have an inbuilt phone.
      The current crop of "smart phones" are too big, however a few more years of minituarisation and we'll see cheap phones with good battery life and the regular PDA features such as calendar, internet access, decent addressbook, mp3 player, java VM, email client etc. in a form factor around that of today's regular phones.

      The tech is not quite ready yet, but I predict that within ten years, nearly everyone will be carrying a tiny phone-come-PDA with an inbuilt camera.

    3. Re:Do we need these features? by trollhaugen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Japanese mobile phones run on a different network than US cellular phones, which perhaps indicates why they're so much smaller and lightweight than US phones. Although they have more features, they don't use up an exorbitant amount of power (although, in Japan, you can go to some convenience stores like 7-11 and get your phone charged at a vending machine while taking money out of an ATM). US phones look like the "dealbreaker" phones Micheal Douglas uses on the beach in "Wall Street" compared to the thin, light, Japanese models. An extraordinary high percentage of the Japanese population have mobile phones, most notably young people. They don't have PDA's really, but everyone has a phone and dare I say it, they are practically addicted to them. Obviously this points out a distinct cultural difference between the high tech cell phone markets in the US and mobile phone markets in Japan. Apples and oranges. Someday there we will perhaps be a happy medium. I predict that, in the future, most people around the world will have phones that resemble PDAs, and that those phones will become more and more like personal computers, or will at least function like extensions of them. In time, people will come to rely on these devices/phones.

    4. Re:Do we need these features? by tarunthegreat2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There is 1 reason behind this:
      1. Ego
      You have about 15/16 different telecom companies with 2/3 major standards all battling it out. Thing is CDMA is essentially an American standard, developed by Qualcomm (I think), and there is no way it would bend over for a European cheese-eating monkey standard like GSM (developed by Nokia and Ericsson, I think).
      Further the mobile phone system here isn't an open or uniform standard like in Europe/Asia. Even with GSM here, y'all had to shift it to a different frequency - 1900 MHz instead of the 900/1800 bands used in Europe/Asia. Your mobile is tied to your provider, whereas in Europe/Asia, buy the phone from anyone anywhere, and simply plug in the GSM chip supplied by the provider you choose. As any slashdotter will tell you, when you use Open and Uniform standards, you get growth and innovation. So this is the unfortunate situation in the US of A. CDMA may be a better standard technically, but GSM is the what the worlds uses. Which is why while most of us are happily MMS-ing, Text messaging is only now becoming a big deal in USA.

  2. I can honestly say... by vondo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...that I don't want a phone with any of those features. I want a phone that
    a) doesn't sound like crap
    b) lasts a few days on a charge
    c) functions as a bluetooth access point for my PDA/Laptop
    d) doesn't cost more than $150

  3. TV tuner? by boarder8925 · · Score: 1, Insightful
    ...In particular, two phones from Sharp, the V402SH and V602SH between them boast a TV tuner...
    Honestly, who would want to watch TV on a cell phone?
    1. Re:TV tuner? by Oriumpor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Anyone who has to stand in public transport for hours a day.

    2. Re:TV tuner? by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Honestly, who would want to watch TV on a cell phone? "

      Somebody who's at a restaraunt waiting to be served. Somebody taking a dump at work. Somebody trying to find out what happened after an Earthquake and all the power's out. Somebody riding the bus. Somebody taking a...

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  4. 2005? by sych · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hold on, we're almost half-way through 2004 already, they're not even out in Japan yet; the USA still hasn't managed to convert to GSM let alone UMTS or any other 3G standard, there's probably a tonne of localisation to do, and you're expecting to see these things worldwide in 2005?

    You must be joking, right?

  5. "Dog bark translator"....?! by Mmm+coffee · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know this is off topic, but if you haven't spent enough time with your dog to know what he/she is thinking, feeling, and expressing without a fscking dog bark translator, then you're probably a crappy 'parent'.

    Right now my dog (Jenny) is laying on the chair next to my computer desk with her head propped up on the arm, staring at me with one ear perked straight up. That clearly says "You're supposed to be petting me instead of browsing Slashdot, you moron." Just learn how to speak dog, it's cheaper and more rewarding.

  6. Less is More by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They actually want to make a regular computer inside the cell phone.. I actually want a cell phone that can be heard everywhere, with a nice battery and perhaps send pictures and such (which can already be done).

    I don't even want that much. Was with you until you said pictures. All I want is a phone with a good battery life and a decent address book. I don't mind a few other features (such as a calculator or a few simple games like Tetris to pass the time if I am stuck at the airport) but they had better not murder my battery life or distract me from the main features of the phone.

    My Kyocera 2325 suits me quite nicely. The address book is superb (I love the auto-dial feature where it matches letters that I type to the contacts book -- can call my GF by typing in "788" or my boss by typing in "726" -- that's the coolest speed-dial feature I've ever seen -- much nicer then a list of speed-dial numbers that need to be remembered), the SMS interface is sleek enough and it has the calculator mode that I desire. The battery will last about three days even with fairly heavy usage (I am landline free so I make all my calls on the cell) -- what more could you ask for? Sometimes less is better.

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  7. Features by uspsguy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My only question: does it actually make usable phone calls?

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  8. phones are replacing PCs by bhny · · Score: 2, Insightful

    in japan, for some kids the phone is their pc. they don't email they send text messages, they browse the web on their phone.

    it's not obvious in the U.S. with our backwards cell phones, but in other parts of the world people are buying phones instead of PCs

  9. What a waste by reynolds_john · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Phone manufacturers (and software developers) are keeping the price of these silly things artificially high.

    Back in the late 90s I heard from a developer that Nokia told them at a conference that they *could* make cell phones that updated themselves over the network; they don't because they want cell phone turnover on the rate of about one a year.
    The service still sucks at times, and the stuff they add on just simply doesn't justify the insane prices you pay. Think about it - $150 for a good new phone, and (average) $60 a month for a decent plan.

    That's $870 a year for a PHONE.

    Price for a regular home phone, $150 a year, maybe $200 if you add on a good long distance plan. And unlike your cell, the home phone is good for life (we just threw away my grandfather's phone that he got from AT&T in the early 60s).

    Perhaps I'm the anomoly, but I want quality service, long battery life, and a decent menu system (are you listening, Motorola?) over every other feature they come up with.

    Just my 2 cents.

  10. Captain Obvious on the Tech Front by Mulletproof · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Japanese Cell Phones Offer a Glimpse of the Future"

    Um, the Japanese cell phone market has been providing glimpses into the future for quite a while now. They are regularly on the bleeding edge of industry technology. Freakin' duh, man.

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  11. Re:I wish US phone were built as tough. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    What "US scumbag" company manufactures cell phones? Nokia is European, Sony Ericsson is a Japanese-European hybrid, LG is Korean I think... Motorola is American but that's the only one I can think of. You think these companies only want US customers to break their phones? Please. US phones feel fragile because US customers don't care, so manufacturers don't need to spend more on a phone's ruggedness. It's not some evil corporate conspiracy against the US. If fragile cell phones were a major customer complaint, design changes would happen, but as of right now it doesn't factor in when an American goes to pick out a cell phone.

  12. Practical Features: by cryptochrome · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Let it replace all the other electronic devices you have on you. Like:

    1) A LED flashlight. So handy, so simple.
    2) Built-in usb plug letting it operate as a combination modem and flash drive. Of the generic variety, so you don't need to install special software to use it as such.
    3) AM/FM/Weather radio. Keep up with news and sports.
    4) Civilian band walkie talkie. Generic analog or smarter digital, with encryption. If it can use bluetooth, it is already capable of using the right frequencies.

    Please add your own ideas...

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  13. Odd by NeGz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've noticed it a few times before, and others may have pointed it out. But anyhow...

    I can easily see someone like my dad subscribing to the "it's just a phone, all it should do is let me send and recieve calls" opinion, which is, of course a perfectly valid one.

    But geeks? Slashdot Geeks!? I mean, features like dog translators are obviously useless crap, but don't geeks (like myself) normally like their tech things to get bigger (smaller), better and faster? Even I use an old Ericsson T39m (calls, address book, bluetooth/IrDA, WAP, email, SMS) and I don't feel the need to upgrade.

    Perhaps there's some kind of inbuilt geek mechanism that doesn't trigger for mobile phones but does for PDAs, notebooks, MP3 players, PVRs, etc. :) (Or perhaps it's because the later are often targeted at us, whilst the prior is not.)

  14. Re:You say this because you don't know me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    So fucking buy one. They exist.

    Why do you OMG I DONT WANT THAT ITS TOO MUCH types have to post on every bloated product release, christ.