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Intel Releases New Pentium M Processors

doormat writes "Its been known for a while, but now it's official, as Intel releases Dothan, the 90nm version of Banias, aka the Pentium M processor. It also debuts Intel's new numbering scheme. The fastest new part is a Pentium M 755 2GHz w/ a 100MHz FSB, and 2MB of L2 on die cache. Reviews are starting to tip up as the NDA expires. One is at Tom's."

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  1. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Couple of more reviews of the Dothan I came across around the web as Tom's isn't the only site reviewing new kit.

    TrustedReviews - http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=428

    Digit-Life - http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/asus-m6000/asu s-m6.html

    PC Mag - http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/asus-m6000/asu s-m6.html

  2. The Bottom Line by haunebu · · Score: 4, Informative
    "In a direct comparison between the old Pentium M 1.7 GHz and the new Dothan with 2.0 GHz, the newcomer clearly manages to gain the upper hand. In some of the benchmarks, the mobile CPU produced with 90-nm technology is up to 22% faster. Even if you only consider the difference in clock speed between the two CPUs, Dothan still offers a 5% advantage.

    The results of the battery life benchmarks show the benefits of 90-nm process technology. The two test systems were identical, except for the CPUs, and gave nearly the same results."

    From here.

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    Blue skies, Barthy Burgers, girls...

  3. Some more Dothan reviews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Couple of more reviews of the Dothan I came across around the web as Tom's isn't the only site reviewing new kit.

    TrustedReviews - http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=428

    Digit-Life - http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/asus-m6000/asu s-m6.html

    PC Mag - http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/asus-m6000/asu s-m6.html

  4. This stuff seems to overclock nicely by Chep · · Score: 5, Informative
    ... and with quite decent per-clock performance, to boot:

    Here

    (yeah, yeah, it's in French. Machine translate it for the text, and after all the pictures and chart don't need much of an explanation, do they?)

  5. Re:FSB @ 100 MHz ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Umm.. no. First its Quad-pumped, meaning that it acts like a 400MHz bus. I believe the P4 at 800MHZ quad pumped is somewhere in the 6GB/s range. So this should be sufficent since the architecture is less dependant on bandwidth.

    You could even bother to do a back of the envelope calculation.
    BW = (100*10^6)(4)(2 words)(4bytes/word)/(1024^3 GB/byte) = 2.98 GB/s

    So yeah, its sufficent.

  6. Overclocking Dothan by mst76 · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you can read French, there's an article on x86-secret where they opened a laptop, installed a big cooler, and overclocked a 2.0 Ghz Dothan to 2.4 Ghz. It remained stable during 2 hours of BurnP6 and stayed under 30 degrees C. The 2.4 Ghz Dothan beat the 3.4 Ghz P4 in all their benchmarks, and is comparable to the Athon 64 3400+.

    1. Re:Overclocking Dothan by AtomicBomb · · Score: 2, Informative

      O/C Dothan is pretty cool even when compare with top of the line P4 or Athlon-64
      x86-secret in English. On the other hand, Althlon-64 3400+ has a core clock speed of 2.2GHz, slightly lower than that of the O/C Dothan (2.4GHz)... Of course, if we talk about processing power/power consumption, Dothan wins by a mile...

      Intel is starting to recover from the CPU design competition. The 3.4GHz clock speed P4 is just unnecessarily too high....

  7. Links... by defaultXIX · · Score: 2, Informative

    TrustedReviews

    Digit-Life

    PC Mag

    The a tag is your friend...

  8. Linux on Centrino laptops and notebooks by wehe · · Score: 4, Informative

    As soon as the new Centrino generation will be available on laptops and notebooks, there will be Linux information about Dothan machines here.

  9. Re:What I don't understand... by leuk_he · · Score: 4, Informative

    Check again:

    HP to sharpen blade with Pentium M

    And don't forget: high end servers don't use bleeding edge processors since they need some extra time to certify the hardware.

  10. Re:Hmmm.... by theguywhosaid · · Score: 3, Informative

    its quad pumped, like DDR but more so. its effectively a 400MHz bus

  11. Re:Desktop by Darren+Winsper · · Score: 4, Informative

    AMD chips have implemented the HLT opcode for many years.

  12. Re:Desktop by mczak · · Score: 2, Informative
    Intel Pentium-M 735 $294,21W Comparable Athlon-XP (2600-3000?) $170, ~70W
    That's not really a fair comparison. You can get a Mobile Athlon XP-M 2600+ (mainstream) for $110, and it has a TDP of 45W. Yes, the Pentium-M still uses less power than the Mobile Athlon, but it's nowhere near as dramatic as your numbers suggest - and the price difference is even larger.
  13. Re:Marketing by smcv · · Score: 2, Informative

    Bogomips *are* an objective measure, though. They're how many million times per second Linux can run a particular busy-loop, used for high precision timing (basically the same idea as how you did delays in old BASIC programs, i.e. FOR X%=1 TO 100000:NEXT X%, adjusting the large number down if you had a slow computer, or up if you had something blindingly fast like the 1.8MHz 6502 in a BBC Micro; ah, those were the days :-)

    In other words, they're an objective measure of how fast your CPU can achieve absolutely nothing, hence the name bogomips (= millions of bogus instructions per second).

    Old x86s generally do about a bogomip per MHz, newer ones (Pentium and up) do 2 bogomips per MHz due to different pipelines and such, so yes, they really *can* do twice as much nothing per clock cycle.

    Of course, how fast a CPU can spin round and round a redundant loop has little relation to how much actual work it can do, so the only things bogomips are useful for are high-precision timing and pointless boasting.

    (Different CPU architectures run different busy-loops in that part of the kernel, so in any case bogomips aren't directly comparable between architectures anyway. My G4 manages a little less than one PowerPC-bogomip per MHz.)

  14. Re:Dothan / Banias Compatibility by mczak · · Score: 2, Informative

    It is pin-compatible, but intel says you need a new stepping (b-step) of their chipset. I have no idea if these new steppings are already in use, or if it might run even with the old stepping unofficially. Also, the bios might not like it.
    At least a 2.13Ghz P-M (with 533Mhz FSB) is on the roadmap. Not THAT much of an improvement from the now available 2Ghz part though. Still quite impressive nonetheless.