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Sony PC/DVR Incorporates 7 Tuners & 1TB HD

GFD writes "TechJapan has an article on the 'Type X' Viao PC/DVR that will have 1TB and 7 tuners - allowing the recording of 7 shows at the same time. It also has a very cool look."

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  1. umm.... by King-Raz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Isn't this overkill? What consumer would honsestly need this! When have there ever been seven TV programs worth watching on at the same time?

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    1. Re:umm.... by MtViewGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Given the bad habit of broadcasters to have unusual starting and ending times nowadays for their programming, you'll be surprised how many people want PVR's with multiple tuners.

    2. Re:umm.... by kabocox · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When have there ever been seven TV programs worth watching on at the same time?

      I'm going to call this one. There have been times that 3 or more shows have been on in the same time block that I'd have liked to watch. I agree that TV generally has gone down hill. The thing Cable has special interest shows.

      If I was a sports person, I might want to record 3-4 games and a sitcom. If I was a homesitter, I'd likely record 4-5 stations worth of daytime soaps.
      When I was a teenager, there was a time block of 3:00-4:00 that all the really good after school cartoons came on. Here is another thought though. Maybe this isn't might all for me. Maybe it is so that I can record my 2 shows, while my wife can get her 2 shows, and my 2 kids can each have some options. I may be interested in entirely different things than my kids, but it would be nice if we had one center media server that did all. In my parents house we started off with 1 VCR. Over the years each individual either bought or recieved a VCR for a gift. PVRs are alot more powerful and personal than VCRs. IF I had the $3-4K that this will likely cost, I'd buy it. I don't have that kinda of money. If it was $500-$1500, I could maybe get it by the wife though.

  2. Now, if they do one for DirecTV.... by MtViewGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ....I'll buy it in no time flat, even if it costs US$2,200. :-) But we really don't need that many tuners built into the box--maybe three to four at most.

    You have to wonder if Sony is using licensed TiVo technology for this box.

  3. If it's from Sony... by CaVi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    it will look sexy, but will be crippled by some DRM, I'm afraid.

    The article is slashdotted already, but what DRM will it have? Sony has too much to protect (Sony Music) to allow people to enjoy their hardware fully.

    I've had a Sony MD, you could transfer from your PC to the MD with the USB cable, but what you recorded on the MD (even if recorded with an analog device, you couldn't transfer it back to your PC...)

    I hope they haven't done the same kind of mistake: making a great hardware, with functionalities crippled by some DRM.

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  4. Well... by SavedLinuXgeeK · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In a non-home setting, this device could work really well as a video surveilance setup. I mean B&W vid @ low res, you could channel 7-sources into it, and keep a great deal of informatio stored. Now I am sure thats not the purpose of this, but that is the only thing I can think of, for seven tuners at one time. Unless you really want to watch every station's take on a presidential message, im sure the slight camera angles make all the difference in the world ;)

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  5. Useless. by Jarnis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Analog = RIP. And dedicated separate digital tuners/descramblers = teh suck for timeshifting etc.

    What I need is a 1TB box with 2-3 *digital* (DVB-C or DVB-T for us euros) tuners, and with a Conax descrambler smartcard support. So I could record at least one channel while watching another (or maybe 2 channels while watching third). In full digital glory. HDTV support would be a bonus, but that is not happening in europe at such a fast rate - I think broadcasters first want to move to digital, and then its easier to reuse the spare frequencies for HDTV signals once analog is dead and buried.

    But no. Sony is designing an obsolete analog tuner box with a ridiculous pricetag... :(

  6. Re:wtf by Malc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I thought they were meant for wasting money, guzzling fuel, polluting, creating false feelings of security and safety, increasing the feeling of separation from the dirty real world and giving people an excuse to drive badly. Thus 99% of people use them properly!

  7. Re:Sure, it has seven tuners... by blixel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How is someone ever going to find seven shows they want to watch at once in general

    Sometimes there probably are actually seven things on at the same time that I want to see. Fox News, Discovery, TLC, TechTV, Sci-Fi and/or Comedy Central, local news, and the Discovery Science channel .... but the real problem is finding the time to actually go back and watch all those shows.

    I only have 2 tuners on my PVR that I have now and I find myself going through and deleting unwatched shows a couple of times per week.

  8. 7 buffers at once by BugMaster+ChuckyD · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One of the great things about tiVo is how it buffers the show you're watching so you can pause rewind and skip commercials. When you change channels the buffer is gone and you can't rewind the new channel etc.

    With this device you could (presumably) set it up to buffer your favorite channels as well as the one you're watching. You could watch one show and then jump over to CNN (or whatever) and rewind to watch the start of the news broadcast, then jump over to ESPN and watch the baseball game etc.

  9. Pass the pretzels and change the channel, please. by malia8888 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The device features 7 above ground analog TV tuners, as well as more than 1TB of HD space, and a maximum of 7 channels can be recorded at the same time. one can store about one week's worth of programming from seven different channels, and Sony has said that it is "to keep in touch with past and present programs like a time machine, one can choose their favorite program and watch it."

    After reading this I was struck by the fact that we spend so much time watching and so little time doing. That is probably why humans are becoming a rather chubby lot. One doesn't see a pride of lions watching another pride of lions on a glass screen doing lion-like things.

    It makes me very sad that we have become life voyeurs. Now we have a device that can rivet our buttocks even deeper into our recliners. I think we need to go for a walk, talk to friends, and turn the T.V. off.

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  10. Re:Sure, it has seven tuners... by Suidae · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd have to agree. Before I buy a PVR its going to have to be able to handle at least two digital streams at once, preferably by directly storing the compressed video data without reencoding, ala DirecTivo.

    Frankly, I'd prefer if the cable company would just store all this stuff at THEIR end, dump all the broadcast channels, and use the bandwidth to feed the cable modem system so I can watch anything I want, whenever I want, without having to make copies at my end. I'll even pay extra so I don't have to watch commercials, and I'll be happy to tell the networks which shows I watch, when I watch them, and if I thought they sucked or not.

    They can even set up 'suggested lineups' for different viewing preferences so it works kind of like regular TV where shows come on at regular times, but they can talior the steams for more groups. This would let them take advantage of multicast capabilities and let them hit viewers with highly directed programming (ie, I want the sci-fi and technology stream, no chick flicks, and no horror-pretending-to-be-sci-fi, but my wife might want the cooking, home-improvement, and drama stream).

    It would be nice to still have the stream cached locally so I can pause whatever I'm watching, but I don't really want to have to keep a terrabyte system sitting around so I can watch older stuff, that should be provided by the cable company.

    Come on networks, use your imagination, this stuff shouldn't be too hard! I've already got purchase on demand, streaming, pause-able, rewindable digital movies, start doing it with regular TV too!

  11. What good is 7 tuners by Monoman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What good is 7 tuners if I have digital cable or sattelite?

    They need to come up with a standardized way to interface tuner cards in TVs or generic set top boxes.

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  12. Re:Sure, it has seven tuners... by Le+Marteau · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Before I buy a PVR its going to have to be able to handle at least two digital streams at once...

    Whatever. I figured, at about $300 for my Tivo, if it lasted two years, that's .50 cents a day for the privilige of never needing to sit through another commercial again. It was, and is WELL, WELL worth the price, and I just can't concieve having to deal with those inane, insulting, idiotic commercials again.

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  13. Re: I'll even pay extra by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'll even pay extra so I don't have to watch commercials, and I'll be happy to tell the networks which shows I watch, when I watch them, and if I thought they sucked or not.

    If you're not watching any commercials, why would they give a shit which shows you watched or what you thought about them?

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  14. Re:Redundant in 5 years by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Only on Slashdot can you take a bogus URL thrown out there as a joke, wrap HTML around it to make it clickable, and get moderated "informative" for it.

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  15. Re: I'll even pay extra by billtom · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not exactly. The key point to remember is that people watch shows *not* networks/channels. I watch The Sopranos, I don't watch HBO. I watch The West Wing, I don't watch NBC. Etc.

    What the grandparent was getting at is that we currently have the technology to completely eliminate channels and simply offer shows. The current setup where shows are offered on channels is technologically obsolete.

    We want to change from the model where networks broadcast shows on channels to one where the network-type companies are more like movie production companies. Where they finance the production of new shows and then send them to the distributor (probably the cable/satellite companies) who stores them for purchase by the viewer (then the shows are streamed/downloaded).

    Of course, networks are going to fight this all the way. But the continued evolution of tivo-like devices makes it technologically inevitable.