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Toronto Open Source Conference Report

derrickoswald writes "Today's Ottawa Citizen is running a report in the TechWeekly section on the recent open source conference in Toronto organized by U of T's interdisciplinary Knowledge Media Design Institute and last month's Real World Linux trade show. It highlights the extremely poor Extremadura region of Spain's success story using open source to bootstrap themselves technologically. Quotes from FOSS luminaries include: 'Who controls the software, controls life. Well, it had better us. That's the real political meaning of the free software movement,' said Eben Moglen. Open source 'was the default way you built Internet Infrastructure. You wrote code and released it without trying to commercialize and monetize it,' said Brian Behldendorf." Newsforge (also part of OSDN) has a series of reports on the conference: Day 1, Day 2, Day 3.

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  1. aaah... by imidazole2 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "They have adopted entirely the ideology of freedom that is part of this software movement," said Ghosh, program leader at the International Institute of Infonomics

    I couldnt have said it better....

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  2. Who controls the software, controls life by Timesprout · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That might be true for a small number of of obsessed geeks but the majority of people dont give a monkeys about who controls software. To them its just another product and their interest ends as soon as they have finished reading their email or their computer controlled car tells them it needs an oil change.

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    1. Re:Who controls the software, controls life by PMuse · · Score: 2, Insightful
      That might be true for a small number of of obsessed geeks but the majority of people dont give a monkeys about who controls software. To them its just another product and their interest ends as soon as they have finished reading their email or their computer controlled car tells them it needs an oil change.

      The narod cares about the results. They care:

      When their car records their driving habits and they get sued after an accident.

      When they can't skip the previews/ads at the beginning of their DVDs.

      When they can't afford a new computer (due to licensing fees).

      When they can't get their TV hooked up right. (That is, their TV, DVD player, stereo, VCR, PVR, and computer refuse to cooperate with each other even when a 14-year-old with a PhD properly cables them together.)

      When the music they bought online won't let itself be played on their portable player.

      When their email provider starts putting ads in their email.

      When their office administrator locks down their desktop.

      When the library's SurfNanny blocks their access to a heath website or political website.

      When their new "audio disc" (not CD) locks their iMac shut.

      When they're forced to use Powerpoint for their presentation at a conference.

      etc.

      They know that they don't like some one else controlling their lives. Thing is, they usually don't get that the control of their lives is being exercised through control of software.

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  3. Gasp... by carvalhao · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am Portuguese and am currently working with a Spanish colleague who was falbbergasted when he read about the "extremely poor region of Extremadura". Hey, it looks like we're talking about sub-saarian Africa of something!

    As a matter of fact, Spain is one of the best developed economies in the European Union. There may be some regions where e-development may not have reached somewhat high standards, but hold on! :)

  4. My Guess... by TamMan2000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... is that the facility hosting the conferance had computers and projectors in all of the conference rooms already...

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  5. Heh. Not. by brunes69 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Computer software *does* control your life.

    For the vast majority of people in inddustrialized countries, softwate controls how they get paid, how the bank maanges their money, how companies track their habits, how they buy goods and services, how their cars work, how *they* work, how they get to work, how they have fun, how they communicate. It controls nearly every piec eof equipment in the modern military. Getting through a day without interacting with a piece of software is near impossible unless you're on a caomping trip in the middle of the woods.

    Pretty soon, software is going to be controlling your whole household. It's going to control every applianc ein the house. It's going to control your security system. It's going to control all communications in and out of that house, and it will all be unified.

    So here is the doomsday scenario - in 25-30 years, when this is all in place, if one monopoly controls all this software, they *control society*. All they have to do is hide some backdoors well enough to slip through detection and they have it made. Who would be there to stop them? Anyone who spoke out on any public forum is automatically detected and flagged as a terrorist in the national database.

    Open Source software, especially for anything at the national infastructure / military level, should be *paramount* on people's mids. The only reason it is not is an educational one. Us people in the know really need to get the word out on why this is important, because as software becomes mroe powerful, we're treading downa slippery slope.

  6. Controlling software has gotten FOSS geeks where? by swb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Last I checked, the FOSS geeks control very little. People who don't know/care about controlling software seem to be increasing the control they do have exponentially.

  7. What controls life, will be controlled by persaud · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Be it energy or open-source software or broadband or rice genomes. If an entity, artifact or class of artifacts becomes a control nexus, it becomes a vehicle for the transition of incumbent power.

  8. freedom and software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    People I've spoken to that don't care about free software often don't care about free speech either. Believe it or not there are people who have a "meh, people don't say anything important anyway" attitude to free speech. Wanting your computer to just work without worrying about the EULA is in some ways like wanting to just live your life without worrying about your country's government.

    The Free Software is for people who like freedom or like software. If you like both, then it's right up your ally.

  9. Accountants? by b100dian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wonder how would one manage to get the accountants to hear/read of these "free as in freedom" ideas - for the ones that I came to know don't give a s*** about quality of software either.

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