New Evidence About 'The Great Dying' 250 Million Years Ago

PornMaster writes "The Guardian is reporting that scientists have found the first direct evidence that the killoff of 80% of land species and 95% of marine species 2 billion years ago was due to a meteor." The project web site has more info, maps, etc.

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Gotta raise the BS flag here...

[!Freeky2BGeeky]

Come on... 2 Billion, or 250Million... either way doesn't jive with the fossil record. The dying off of the land/sea animals couldn't have been more than 6 Thousand years ago.

Case in point, I just recently went on a fossil hunt in Florida where the hosts brought out a Mammoth femur they found this past year that was only 1 percent fossilized. Explain to me how something that big could survive even 10,000 years in the shifting sand that makes up Florida (with the rest of the skeleton still nearby)? Fossils in this area aren't embedded in rock, you can simply dig them out of the dirt here, so dating them according to the age of nearby rocks doesn't work.

Re:Oh hell....

[dustmite]

Troll? Come on moderators. It's either 'funny' or 'off-topic'. Perhaps you should be forced to read a definition of the word "troll" before you're allowed to moderate.

Re:ah, but if the church

[jav1231]

" Religious claims cannot be recreated. A scientific claim can." Really? So we can recreate Macro-Evolution? Show me the latest partially evolved Chimp. For many scientists science is a religion. You start with evidence and base your belief (faith, if you will. As "faith" is merely belief based on your understanding of evidence, it's merely been bastardized by modern concepts of faith) on that evidence. The idea that science has to prove it's claims isn't exactly true. Many believe the Big Bang to be fact, but it is not proveable, like many other theories. Like religion, they feel the preponderance of evidence supports it.

Scientists and Creationists

[GuestFox]

Unfortunate, you could learn a lot from us creationists. Oh and by the way, creationists are not only located the U.S. but all over the world. Did you know that the "fathers" of many significant branches of modern science were creationists?

Anyway, have a look at these links.

http://www.icr.org/pubs/imp/imp-103.htm
http://evolutionlie.faithweb.com/
http://www.creationists.org/switch.html
http://emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/bias.htm
http://emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/top.htm

Reading materials (Free on-line books)
http://www.nwcreation.net/booksonline.html

Reading materials (Books)
The Genesis Flood
Creation Scientists Answer Their Critics
21 Great Scientists Who Believed the Bible
Darwin's Enigma
Evolution: a Theory in Crisis

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Re:I've always found those stats suspect

[Stitch_626]

"We just shake our heads and laugh".

That's cute...

That's what Creationists do to Eveloutionists!!!

Then we try to show you the truth.

Here's where I get ripped for expressing my beliefs...again. ~sigh~

Re:I've always found those stats suspect

[GuestFox]

Stitch_626...I don't worry about being ripped, I just spread the good word. At least I'm trying to do them a favor to try and save them from the second death. If they don't want to listen then fine, it's their loss, at least I tried.

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You just missed the boat on Christianity.

[RealAlaskan]

... they, however, ALWAYS "leave the door open" to other possible explanations that may appear in future that are better. Always. (This is all in refreshing contrast to religions like Christianity, where you are in fact expected to 100% completely believe something regardless of whether or not there is really evidence for it.)

So close, and yet so far from being right. I think you have a pretty good grasp of how science is supposed to work, but your grasp of Christianity is not quite so strong, grasshopper.

You are close. God expects you to seek Him through (i.e., because of) faith. The bible tells us this plainly. Once you choose to believe, you will find all the proof you need.

One of the things which first prompted me to doubt my unbelief was the realization that everything which I considered to be a proof that there was no God was being used by Christians to prove that there is a God. The logic was the same, but the underlying premises had one significant difference: we athiests assumed that there was no God, while the Christians assumed that there was one God, almighty, who cares for each of us, has a plan for each of us, and is deeply grieved when we turn our backs on Him[1]. That led each group to different conclusions from the same facts. Eventually, I realized that there are no testable hypotheses about God: we can't devise an experiment to trap Him and force Him to reveal Himself. Once I had chosen to believe I found that He does justify our faith.

The point to Christianity is not that ``... you are in fact expected to 100% completely believe something regardless of whether or not there is really evidence for it.'' The point here is that God wants you to first seek Him. If you seek Him, you will find Him. He'll see to that.

[1] We Christians believe that there is one God, who has three aspects (three different ways we can experience Him; that's all that trinity stuff), and who cares enough about us that He's deeply hurt when we place our fallible judgement ahead of His perfect judgement. Since He treats us with respect we haven't earned, He allows us to estrange ourselves from Him. Since He loves us, He is always ready to forgive us and welcome us back. Here's the vital part: unless you are perfect, by God's standards (and you aren't: He didn't make you that way), you can't spend eternity with Him. The good news is, He will take care of that, if you care enough to ask Him. Go to my website, get my email address, and write me if you want to know more.

Re:Um ...

[LordK3nn3th]

*points to sig*

Re:Sig is only true for one religion

[LordK3nn3th]

That's nice, because atheism isn't a religion. You're modded down for not knowing what the fuck you are talking about.