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MGS3 Demo Nabbed From Sony E3 Stand?

Ant writes "GamesRadar.com is reporting that a Metal Gear Solid 3 demo was stolen from the E3 videogames expo by nefarious exhibition attendees, as, allegedly: 'L.A. Convention Center security staff were left flat-footed and red-faced yesterday as two unknown perps had it away with a copy of the MGS3: Snake Eater demo... The code snatchers were able to gain access to the PS2 demoing Snake's hotly anticipated jungle rumble by cracking the perspex case on one of the pods on the Sony stand."

52 comments

  1. Torrent link? by wheresdrew · · Score: 5, Funny

    =o)

    1. Re:Torrent link? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      now they're cracking hardware as well?

  2. Should've been in the article: by Mahtar · · Score: 5, Funny

    A representative of the LAPD was quoted as saying, "!" before running after some footprints.

    1. Re:Should've been in the article: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually, immediately after stealing the demo, the thieves hid in a secret area unreachable by cops and knocked on the wall repeatedly for three hours, while cops walked back and forth around it saying "Huh, what was that."

    2. Re:Should've been in the article: by simoniker · · Score: 2, Funny

      I wanted to link this image in the story, as shown on the Gaming Age forums, but didn't manage to get permission from the author before the story ran. Classic.

    3. Re:Should've been in the article: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Eyewitnesses also stated seeing two suspicious cardboard boxes in the vicinity.

    4. Re:Should've been in the article: by Spleener12 · · Score: 5, Funny
      Actually, for footprints they just say "?".

      What would really amuse me would be if some of the cops were discovered unconsious lying over a Japanese porno mag with a tranquilizer needle in their crotch missing only their ID.

    5. Re:Should've been in the article: by linzeal · · Score: 2, Funny

      Only to have a man with dark sunglasses get the perps to break through the wall by finishing a show tune.

    6. Re:Should've been in the article: by fallingdown · · Score: 1

      I wish I had mod priledges so I could give that the "funny" it so righly deserves.

    7. Re:Should've been in the article: by Raven42rac · · Score: 1

      Or stuffed in a locker. Or chopped in half by an invisible ninja. Or eaten by ravens.

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  3. In other news... by Babbster · · Score: 3, Funny

    Gabe and Tycho of Penny Arcade fame ended their time at the Ubisoft booth early today.

    1. Re:In other news... by Grey+Ninja · · Score: 1

      What idiot mod modded parent as offtopic? He's OBVIOUSLY found the culprits. *duh*

    2. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well duh, they had to go to their hotel room early to "meet" with those in the game industry looking to improve themselves and their products image.

      I heard that Ubisoft was one of meany that day who made Gabe and Tycho a "big offer" that they couldn't refuse.

    3. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They sneaked off to play "Snake Eater," and no, I am not referring to the MGS 3 demo.

  4. Suspects? by Tezkah · · Score: 5, Funny

    The LAPD are investigating the incident and are looking for two 19-20 year old males.

    In other news, everyone attending E3 was held for questioning by the LAPD.

  5. for hours by cgenman · · Score: 1

    The thieves were chased for hours by a one-handed police officer named Magnum, the half-brother of the thief's cousin's ex-roommate. Little did they know they were actually trapped in a twisted game masterminded by a group only known as KCET... And KCET was happy...

    Right, Mr. President?

  6. Hrm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    To be totally serious, doesn't anyone else think this may up the security and tighten who they'll let in E3?

    1. Re:Hrm by MMaestro · · Score: 2, Interesting
      doesn't anyone else think this may up the security and tighten who they'll let in E3?

      You mean not let local store managers with almost no interest in gaming attend? Madness!

      *rant I once knew a (former) EBGames store manager my area who had to attend a company conference down in Las Vegas. It was all expenses paid plane ticket first class, 3 days hotel, food and transportation arranged. Instead he blew it all so he could bring his girlfriend down (this guy was so NOT a gamer...) there himself and ended up paying for all that. *endrant

      As much as everyone would like to admit the fact that E3 is an INDUSTRY SHOW and as such should remain closed to the public, its hard to deny the public access to these sorts of goodies and then expect them to have a half-assed knowledge of 'whats hot, whats not' without reading 20 different magazines and websites. Other than the hardcore gamer, its hard to say with confidence that the public even knew about the Half-Life 2+Radeon deal a few months back.

    2. Re:Hrm by The+Barking+Dog · · Score: 1

      To be totally serious, doesn't anyone else think this may up the security and tighten who they'll let in E3? Why? Even if they lost the demo of *one* game (albeit a hotly anticipated one, I'm sure, at least among the PlayStation crowd), by not letting in tons of gamers they would lose the viral marketing potential. They'll post on discussion boards. They'll talk in IRC. They'll tell all their offline friends. On the other hand, what they should do is invite in just a few of the unwashed, Cheeto-eating gamers, make them sign an NDA, and then wait for the anonymous reports to show up on...whatever site is to the gaming world what Ain't It Cool News is to the movie world.

  7. Marketing droids say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Not a publicity stunt that's worked successfully for genuine cases in the past, nosiree"...

  8. The true pirates by elasticwings · · Score: 4, Funny

    First sea pirates, then computer pirates, now shoplifting pirates...

  9. Again? by Gothic_Walrus · · Score: 4, Funny
    Crap...does this mean that they're going to delay the game for months to rewrite the multiplayer and the other stolen code? Damn thieves...I want my Half-Life now!

    Wait...this is Metal Gear? In that case, never mind...

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  10. I heard.. by JazFresh · · Score: 4, Funny
  11. oh well by August_zero · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yeah, but then honestly how many of us are in any danger of getting to go anyway? I mean oh no, I won't be allowed into a conference that I will never attend anyway.

    Now for those of you that are in positions in which you might have gotten to go but now won't because of this, my condolences. I have a cardboard box you might be able to use to sneak in with if you still want it.

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    1. Re:oh well by Mike+Hawk · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Its actually pretty tight already. The largest group of vagrants still allowed into the show are retail clerks. For whatever reason they let the group of people most likely to include the dirtiest rotten fanboys into the show. Oh I know why, its so they can sit in line at the Nintendo booth and praise whatever POS they have on display that year. I am definitely in favor of blocking the retail clerks from attending.

      There are 2 lessons to be learned here:
      #1 To get into E3 on the sly, take a job at a video game store.
      #2 Yes, expect to see further tightening of the rules. This year it was up to 2 forms of current proof of game based employment, online registration, photo id, on-site registration, and a strip search by the guys from America's Army out in front of the LACC.

  12. Does the writer know what "code" means? by RotJ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I doubt that the demo discs had the actual game code sitting there in a readable format. It was probably just the game binaries and media. Sure, you could say they stole the "code" because they can use a disassembler to read the assembly code, but that applies to any program. Stealing the code and stealing the game itself are two completely different things. Which is why Valve got into such a hissy fit because their actual code was stolen and not just a beta release.

    1. Re:Does the writer know what "code" means? by kyz · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Fun fact - the European version of ICO has an objdump of the game executable right there on the DVD. While it's not source code, we do get all the filenames of the source code, and all the labels / method names, etc.

      It's really interesting. For example, you get to see exactly which programmer coded what, as they all kept the code in their own directories. And they really did call Ico and Yorda just 'boy' and 'girl' in their code. The story must have been made up by the marketing department.

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    2. Re:Does the writer know what "code" means? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      do you know what 'code' means?

      binary code is code still...

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    3. Re:Does the writer know what "code" means? by RotJ · · Score: 1
      Yes, I know that binary code is still code, which is why I said, "Sure, you could say they stole the 'code' because they can use a disassembler to read the assembly code, but that applies to any program." I've never known anyone who can read straight binary. The characters in the Matrix could probably do that, but they all wear sunglasses. (That last part wasn't meant to make sense.)

      When the Doom 3 demo was leaked, I didn't recall news reports saying that someone hijacked the Doom 3 code. When people talk about software piracy, they don't talk about how companies are losing money because their "code" is stolen. Having the binary code of a program isn't going to allow pirates to steal and use proprietary information to make their own clone programs. The best they usually do is crack the copy protection schemes.

      Please show me examples of other news stories that said "code" was stolen when a binary executable was pirated. Granted, the MGS3 news story is still very sketchy, so in fact, the demo disc may have contained the actual source code for very good and smart reasons.

    4. Re:Does the writer know what "code" means? by WWWWolf · · Score: 2, Insightful
      And they really did call Ico and Yorda just 'boy' and 'girl' in their code. The story must have been made up by the marketing department.

      Or they started coding it before they wrote the story in detail, or even came up with the names. Might not surprise me at all.

    5. Re:Does the writer know what "code" means? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm, sorry for sounding ignorant, but i don't keep up with all your crazy kid's latest acronyms.

      So, can someone please tell me,

      what is ICO?

      TIA

    6. Re:Does the writer know what "code" means? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's one of the best games for the PS2. http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/review/27213.h tml

    7. Re:Does the writer know what "code" means? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh, thanks. :)

      i guess i've just never heard of it

  13. Le source code by Forkenhoppen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Something tells me that we could be seeing a lot more game companies investing in source code insurance....it does exist, right?

    Seriously, when a previous company I worked for went to E3, they made a point of ensuring that no developer computers were used for front-line demonstrations. It's just common sense not to have your source code, much less any of your company's development intellectual property, sitting there on the same computer you and your highly-fatigued coworkers are showing to the masses.

    1. Re:Le source code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, because everyone stores code on the display PS2, right? Oh, and the media ALWAYS gets its terms right when reporting on stuff like this. Sure.

      Two kids snarfed a one-level demo disc from an unattended kiosk. There's your story. Don't try to project your shortcomings onto Konami.

  14. It wasn’t theft... by dickiedoodles · · Score: 1

    It was copyright infringement...oh wait

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  15. ESR Knows his shit. by Curtman · · Score: 4, Funny

    by cracking the perspex case on one of the pods on the Sony stand.

    You see! Now those are crackers. Leave the hackers alone.

  16. The slashdot game logo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Why does the slashdot logo for the games section have a dot next to "stuff that matters"?

    Is it trademarked?

    But only for games?

    What gives?

    1. Re:The slashdot game logo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's small print that says "(to losers)"

  17. Warez! by evilmuffins · · Score: 1, Funny

    Oh boy, can't wait to leech this one!

  18. Even more nitpicking (gosh!) by RotJ · · Score: 0, Redundant
    stolen from the E3 videogames expo by nefarious exhibition attendees

    The Ombudsman doesn't like the usage of 'Expo' after 'E3', as that is redundant. So is 'ATM machine'. But it's really too late to make any style changes because E3 itself cemented the usage with its e3expo.com

    This comment itself is probably redundant as well as off-topic. But it's really too late to make any content changes because my backspace, delete, ctrl, right mouse button, that menu key next to the windows key, and any keys capable of producing whitespace stopped working as soon as I finished typing this sentence, and I can't close this browser or shut off my system because of some kind of virus or God (also, I'm psychic).xxz=

  19. I would have figured that... by HaloZero · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...security on the game itself would have been better. Like, modchip that PS2 such that the chip provides a code in ROM that allows that DVD to read only in a PS2 with THAT chip. I dunno, just a thought, not that it matters _now_.

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    1. Re:I would have figured that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if Konami were smart, they'd have the demo running on a PS2 Test Station and not a bunch of off-the-shelf PS2s they have laying around in the back office.

  20. So it goes by August_zero · · Score: 1

    I have some friends that work retail and while most of them are fairly tolerable, I know the types of people that work in game stores and most of them fit your description right up to your little off topic stab at Nintendo there, Old hat I know but there does seem to be an audacious echo in the room doesn't there?

    I always assumed that the clerk passes are not given out as such as much as EB or Gamestop get a certain number of passes to attend the show which they distribute amongst their sales districts with the intent of ending up with managers and possibly highly effective clerks that are in a better position of knowledge to sell pre-sales for upcoming products (stores are all about pre-sales these days) What happens though, is most of the managers could give a rat's ass about video games (it's just a job) and they just toss them to the wolves, only the jackals are the first ones to the passes.

    I don't think clerks have no business being there, I think this is more a case of certain people have no business being there. All of these ass-clowns just make the companies they work for look bad; in fact any ass-clown at the show reflects badly on the company they work for, but obviously a lot of people don't seem to he worried with PR these days are they or they would leave the idiots at home.

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