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P-P-P-PowerBook for a S-S-S-Scammer...

kormoc writes "It all started with a ebay auction when the seller got a email from a dude who wanted to scam him. It was a normal setup and it went horribly wrong... for the scammer. This has turned from a awful plight for a ebay user to a wonderful prank on the scammer. Throw in some crazy brits with digicams and you have the making of a great story. Mirror Mirror" That should get the coffee out your nostrils on a fine sunday morning. Note that you have to download the PDF to read the story.

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  1. Truly an awesome story. by DrEldarion · · Score: 5, Informative

    This originally started off as a "I think this guy is trying to rip of me off" post on the SA forums. Through the magic of peer pressure and paypal, it blossomed into this wonderful production.

    The thread is now in the Comedy Goldmine here and has over 3200 replies and 3/4ths of a million page views.

  2. This originated from SomethingAwful by rabtech · · Score: 4, Informative

    This originated at the Somethingawful forums; we followed the thread day-by-day as the events unfolded.

    You can find the original thread here:
    http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread .php?s= &threadid=1016390

    Thanks to MyNameIsJeff and the SA forum community for a good laugh.

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  3. Just start in the threads by PenguinRadio · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just start about halfway through the original thread and you'll get the minute-by-minute updates as they await for delivery. Pretty funny.

    http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s= &threadid=1016390&perpage=40&pagenumber=69

  4. Re:Where did I see this... by KarmaPolice · · Score: 2, Informative

    Some of us saw the comment on /. on friday...

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=107613&cid=915 4505

    Great laugh!!

  5. Re:too long by KarmaPolice · · Score: 4, Informative

    Having read it all, here I go with a summary:
    A guy was selling an Apple Laptop and a scammer offered to buy it. The scam was revealed when the scammer tried to do the payment through a fake escrow site. The seller then shipped the "laptop" in the pictures along with some heavy books so the package would feel like the real deal.

    The seller then got donations via paypal to pay the $180 for shipment. The really funny part is that he had to give a value of the package and he said $2000. The scammer then had to pay a tax of the package value to actually recieve the package.

    It wasn't all that easy. It almost didn't happend but FedEx trace-system confirms that the scammer actually paid customs to get the package released...that's how it ends! Read the entire story - it's funny!

  6. Re:What a great way to start a dreary Sunday! by panurge · · Score: 5, Informative
    The scammer is in England and using an accomodation address. The sender is in the US. Where was the contract made? I bet that wasn't even specified, since it was off eBay. So who has legal jurisdiction? What's more, the arrangement is escrow, in theory. That means if the goods are unsatisfactory payment is not released. A genuine buyer would have to accept the risk that the duty would be paid and the goods would be unsatisfactory, and that the duty would not be recovered, unless there existed a proper contract specifying the country of jurisdiction and it was likely to be enforceable. This scammer has the option of visiting the US to start a lawsuit, but he has got to find a court which accepts jurisdiction, and all this is going to cost just a little more than $500.

    The real moral of this story, I think, is don't get involved in interstate (that's state as in country, not as in US state) commerce unless you really know what you are doing, and you are going to be doing it often enough to make all the aggravation worthwhile. The scammer was obviously too dim to realise this since he hadn't realised in advance he would have to pay import duty and Value Added Tax, or even that someone might send him a fake parcel.

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  7. Re:Where did I see this... by protactin · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wow, well done.. and some of us saw it three weeks ago as it actually happened on the Something Awful forums.

  8. Re:All for it .... but by DrEldarion · · Score: 4, Informative

    I would also like to point out that this seller defrauded Paypal, Fedex, eBay

    Did you even READ the damn story? The "transaction" went through a FAKE ESCROW SERVICE, not Paypal. The scammer did NOT buy the item through ebay, it was settled outside of ebay.

    Read->Comprehend->Post.

  9. Re:Not Funny... by mistered · · Score: 4, Informative
    Please, read the link before you post. Chances are *not* that the scammer used a stolen credit card.

    The "payment" for the P-P-P-Powerbook was a fake escrow site. It seems the scammer spent a few hundred GBP of his own money to release the package from customs, and a bunch of SomethingAweful goons put up the money for the FedEx shipment in the first place. But no innocent person is out any money.

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  10. non PDF by seanismdotcom · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here is a HTML version of the PDF file... http://www.mannequin3d.com/powerbook/

  11. Re:A bit hard to follow...... but funny.... by Ishin · · Score: 4, Informative

    Somethingawful.com is the mastermind site behind all of this (couldn't find it mentioned in the pdf) but the address to their forum is forums.somethingawful.com and the original thread on their forum was here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s= &threadid=1016390

    It's a rather hilarious site and if you haven't explored all of their comedy goldmines and photoshop phridays you probably ought to give those a rundown, too.

    Enjoy!

  12. Correct barber shop pic by Psychic+Burrito · · Score: 3, Informative
    here (sorry... wish I could edit my posts here...)

    :-)

  13. Re:A bit hard to follow...... but funny.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    That is what he said on his aucton site to avoid difficulties selling someone else's thing.

  14. Re:What a great way to start a dreary Sunday! by Idarubicin · · Score: 4, Informative
    Even if they are being scammed, aren't this person and his/her accomplices committing mail/wire fraud?

    The original seller made an honest offer. He had the real product, and it was a legitimate auction.

    He only decided to send the dummy laptop after it was established that the buyer was using a false name, phone number, and escrow site, with the intent to defraud the seller. If the buyer has no intention of holding up his end of the contract (paying for the laptop) then the seller is not bound to send a real laptop.

    If the buyer attempts to recover the import duties through civil court, then he exposes himself to criminal prosecution. Further, his claim in civil court would likely be easily denied based on the doctrine of unclean hands--that is, "...a party who is asking for a judgment cannot have the help of the court if he/she has done anything unethical in relation to the subject of the lawsuit."

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  15. Would be nice but... by phr1 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Remember the scammer gave a fake phone number to Fedex and when it couldn't be used to contact him, he went and paid the customs duties to Fedex in cash. There are no credit cards involved.

  16. Re:What a great way to start a dreary Sunday! by blkmagic · · Score: 2, Informative

    He didn't. I actually read the whole story (the PDF, not the 82-page original thread) before I posted. The declaration said something like "computer equipment," and he included a CD-ROM drive in the package in case anyone actually checked. The fraud was not in the declaration, but in the agreement. It's all moot since the guy was trying to scam him, but he agreed to send the PowerBook (actual computer) prior to the "buyer" sending payment through an escrow company.

  17. Re:A bit hard to follow...... but funny.... by TMacPhail · · Score: 4, Informative

    As one of 33000 members of the SA forums I'll tell you that what goes on in those forums isnt organized by Lowtax or the other admins/mods. It's just people posting in a forum that just happens to generate lots of content from time to time that actually is worth encouraging people to "check this out"

  18. Re:What a great way to start a dreary Sunday! by Crazy+Eight · · Score: 2, Informative
    It would be fraud because he didn't send the item described in the auction.

    This exchange was less formal than selling a used microwave via post-it note on the lunchroom bulletin board. The scammer contacted MyNameIsJeff on his own after the eBay auction ended.

  19. Re:amusing but not the best by WWWWolf · · Score: 2, Informative

    Bah! You have no idea of true scambaiting art. This is art. A gripping tale of dark dark horror and greed. Guaranteed to spook you silly. Or not. =)

    Seriously, anyone can get scammers to pose for silly photographs, but this tale was something completely extraordinary.

    Okay, the 419eater scams are still funny enough, though... I particularly liked the one where the scammer tried to pass off photo from Vatican as a photo of their church =)

  20. Re:A bit hard to follow...... but funny.... by batkiwi · · Score: 2, Informative

    You have it backwards. SA does not want millions of pagehits and advertising is flat rate and CHEAP (not impression or click through based). SA is the site that redirected to goatse for links from slashdot b/c the traffic wasn't welcome.

    SA is a fairly tight-knit community which is interested in new PARTICIPANTS, but isn't interested in fark-style "OMG WE GOT 3284324 HITS!!!" style people or pure leechers.

    It's all about what you can contribute to the whole.

    The only scam-style things on SA are the "true media" reviews, which are meant to draw out crazy rabid fans of XYZ, and are blatently obvious if you're not a complete idiot.

  21. Re:What a great way to start a dreary Sunday! by pjt33 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Under UK law, there are four requirements for a contract: offer, acceptance, consideration and intent to create legal relations.

  22. Re:Was this even a scam? by foniksonik · · Score: 2, Informative

    huh? the whole escrow service was the scam... the scammer set up a fake website that appeared to be secured and verified somehow... in fact the website apparently was taken down as soon as the package was shipped... not to mention the domain was connected to an individual not a company and and how could you not see that it is an obvious scam?

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  23. Re:A bit hard to follow...... but funny.... by spacefrog · · Score: 4, Informative
  24. Re:Was this even a scam? by jafomatic · · Score: 2, Informative
    Some points that stood out from the thread:
    • The "escrow" website was archived by someone on the SA forum and can be found if you search there. The popup in question is a document that is hosted by verisign and provided when requested by referrer that verisign will vouch for. This "verisign popup" was not from verisign, but rather a forged, or fraudulent representation, of such; hosted, no less, by the "escrow company's" website.
    • Ebay confirmed that the account which the buyer used to identify himself to the seller was hijacked by (a) informing the seller and (b) nullifying the buyer's bid.
    • The ebay account pointed to an interior design professor in the american midwest. The seller was contacted by the "same" person using a wholly different persona (name, email acct, etc).

    Perhaps none of us read the whole thread closely enough. I know I got kinda tired around page 78 (* 40 posts per page) but I made it to 80 before the mods pruned it.
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  25. Re:Wanted: Missing Conclusion by nikster · · Score: 2, Informative
    conclusion here.

    **** spoiler ahead *******

    goon "rhig"'s post from upstairs the barber shop:
    This was written just after I got to the barbers; I used one of his upstairs computers and couldn't see anything so I had to listen.

    RE VIDEO: I don't think the video is complete; the lines were to slow at the cafes.

    I'm upstairs at the moment and a lots going on, the barbers on the phone Parcel Force about other parcels he's waiting for and one has been delivered according to the force.
    "ec107847"2/z/7"17gb" was the number for one he was checking about others too.
    After I had been upstairs a couple of minutes a guy came up used a computer pretty much next to mine so I couldn't take more upstairs pictures or record anything, I doubt the mic would have picked up anything audible anyway.

    OK after I got up there I heard the barber on the phone, then a guy with an eastern European accent started talking - the guy very likely went in the back way. The barber was explaining that there was a fee for one of his Parcel Force packages, I think it was a storage fee as it was a few days late or something, either that or duty. The guy thought he was talking about the Fed-Ex parcel and started arguing that he'd paid duty; it took a minute or two for the barber to explain.

    He paid the fee and there was a lot of rustling, he was opening one of the boxes, there was more angry raised voices and the barber said something like "is it broken etc", the guy said something like its wrong/mistake I don't think he really understood the joke right away. There was more raised voices but not real arguing, the guy didn't suspect the barber of anything and didn't as far as I know explain what happen to him. Probably to keep his post office box if the barbers not in on it.

    I went outside to see if I could get a picture of him leaving, he spent about 5 minutes arguing with one of the guys outside the shop, it looked like this guy may have been in on it, and it's fairly likely he knows something about the Romanian at least. I didn't manage to get any pictures, they were facing me the whole time and I couldn't get the camera out even across the road from them. They went back into the shop and must have left out the back door.

    I think it's almost definitely the scammer and not someone working for him, his spoken English is as bad as his written and he opened the stuff in the shop.

    Below images have been added for when thread is archived,
    Official Jean Climax Mug

    Outside of shop just after I left, the scammer was inside at this time athough I'm sure he can't be seen through the window.

    Seems like Collindale is the root of all internet fraud