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Cow Brains Into Biofuel

beatleadam writes "If the reality of $2.00 per gallon of gas does not scare you enough, then perhaps this will. '...Cattle brains, skull, eyes, spinal column, small intestine and other parts suspected of harboring mad cow disease were banned from human consumption in December as a safety precaution, shortly after the discovery of the first case of mad cow disease in the United States...' The FDA is now funding research aimed at producing biofuels from cattle brains. What about the exhaust given off from cars that are burning Mad Cow Fuels?" It's the grand circle of life.

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  1. -1, FUD by dant · · Score: 3, Informative
    What about the exhaust given off from cars that are burning Mad Cow Fuels?

    It, like the gasoline put into the car in the first place, will be composed of hydrocarbons vastly too short to be formed into prions.

    Go read up on what refineries do and how they work. It will put your mind at ease about this 'threat', plus which it's a fascinating problem they have to solve. Every day a refinery doesn't blow itself to smithereens is a testament to the skill of the engineers who built it.

    1. Re:-1, FUD by Directrix1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Mad cow disease is bad enough, but MAD CAR disease? Its a plot by Al Qaeda I tells ya!

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  2. Woot! Once They Figure It Out... by MBCook · · Score: 2, Funny
    ...I won't have to stop and pay for gas when driving through cattle country! Everytime I run low and gas I can just take a trip through a field with cows and see how many "gallons" I can hit! All I need is a little mini-processing station in my car when they get it right. And I bet I could cook burgers and steaks on my engine block so I use all parts of the cow! I'm "eco-friendly"!

    Now all I need to do is figure out what kind of cows make the highest octane gas. Longhornds, or maybe Angus. I wonder if milk vs. beef cows makes a difference.

    If the cow is "corn-fed beef", does that mean the fuel I'd make has ethonol? If the cows are fed beans, would my car have to be able to run on Methane to use the fuel made from the cows?

    Oh, there are just too many jokes. :)

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    1. Re:Woot! Once They Figure It Out... by Smidge204 · · Score: 2, Informative

      What's to figure out? It's called thermal depolymerization (TDP) and has been around for awhile now. I'm surpized more farm waste isn't utilized in this manner.

      I also propose running the TDP plants off of geothermal whenever possible. Plenty hot enough and it's essentially free energy for the taking.

      How many (millions?) or tons of organic waste is produced in the USA due to farming alone? Think of all the light crude that could produce... Once you have the oil, you can use regular refinery techniques to turn it into any number of distillate products.

      I'd like to see a future where you don't just recycle metal cans and glass/plastic bottles, but kitchen and yard waste as well. So sense dumping it all into a landfill when it can at least be used for something!
      =Smidge=

  3. Demeaning to life by rigau · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I am not opposed to looking into diferent sources for energy. However i really dislike the tone of the article. I find it very disturbing how little value people give to life. It is sad that people make fun of things like this. I am not an animal rights advocate but still animals are not simply on earth so we can use them up. and when we do use them for our benefit we should be mindful of the sacrifice they made. the second we are cruel to animals needlesly we begin to lose our humanity and we begin being cruel to other human beings. most serial killer ans psychopaths abused animals in their youth. anyway i was ust upset about the general tone of it being a joke that they killed a bunch of cows because WE were assholes and gave them their own shit to eat while we raised them to kill them to eat them ourselves and now we rea trying to look for ways to turn their innnards into energy.

    1. Re:Demeaning to life by TykeClone · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I find it very disturbing how little value people give to life.

      If you're going to slaughter the animal anyway for food, wouldn't it be best to use whatever is left over in any way possible? I think that just using part of the animal and throwing the rest out is wasteful and more disrespectful than converting it into another use!

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    2. Re:Demeaning to life by Pyromage · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I dislike the moral high ground on things like this, because I don't think it works. Consider: In order for you to live, other things must die. Period. It is impossible for you to live without causing the death of animals and plants.

      The second thing is this: is it not better to use the cows more completely, rather than wasting large parts of them? If it was me being slaughtered instead of them - aside from the question of whether I want to be slaughtered, that's not important. If it *was* me, then - I would be much happier if they used most of me, rather than just killing me and taking my toenails.

      And besides, it is kinda funny ;)

    3. Re:Demeaning to life by pr0c · · Score: 2, Insightful

      TykeClone:
      If you're going to slaughter the animal anyway for food, wouldn't it be best to use whatever is left over in any way possible?


      NOTHING is left after using an animal for food. It is all used somewhere whether it be other animal food such as dogs (not other ruminants however) or some other use.. its all used already. I know that brain and nervous system parts have been banned in the US since the mad cow case (by the way, she got lame giving birth, she was not a sick cow even..) but before that and some remains true today brains along with most all other organs make their way into the human food chain in the form of fat, etc. In many cases organs are mixed with fat to make lean beef (McDonald's for example NOT TROLL) appear to be better. Anyone reading this, do yourself a favor, DO NOT look into how sausage, jerkey or hamburger is processed if you enjoy eating it.

    4. Re:Demeaning to life by TykeClone · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I hear that - and try not to think about hot dogs.

      More intriguing is the use of manure. Cattle are not raised in confinement so much yet, but hogs are. Some of the confinement sites in Iowa make as much waste as small cities - and the biggest problem with it is that you need to plan to get rid of it. They make so much waste in such a small place that it becomes a problem (both ecologically and "smellologicallY").

      If that manure can easily be converted into oil - that solves 3 problems very easily (excess manure running off into streams and creeks, smell, fuel).

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    5. Re:Demeaning to life by be951 · · Score: 2, Informative
      Don't you mean "demeaning to animal byproducts"? That's what we're really talking about here. Parts of slaughtered cattle that were previously used or disposed of in other ways now must be processed in a way that accounts for the risk of BSE. This is a program aimed at making that less of a cost burden to beef producers.

      Cattle are (and have been for quite some time) systematically raised and slaughtered for meat. This project by the FDA doesn't change that one whit. It simply addresses how to deal with waste material that could be hazardous. If the former (slaughtering cattle in general) bothers you, that's fine. But the latter (waste disposal) should reduce the risk of mad cow type infections in cattle and humans. That's a good thing.

  4. Repulsive by DrSkwid · · Score: 2, Interesting


    why not burn our dead people not spawn the bovine damned

    ?

    the horror

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  5. The Mootrix by AtariAmarok · · Score: 2, Funny

    This sounds like a set-up for some sort of bovine Matrix, only this time the computers are powered by cow-brains.

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  6. Efficiency by me98411 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just out of curiosity... It is said that when you move form one level in food chain to next, only 10% of energy is tranferred. (For e.g. if a cow eats 100 Joules worth of grass, then human who eat cow get 10 Joules from those 100 J ). Taking this 10% efficiency rule in to account, would it not be better if we invested in obtaining power from plants rather than from animal's flesh? Am I missing something here?

    1. Re:Efficiency by rigau · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think this is implying that there will be mad cow epidemics on a regular basis and that we need to learn how to use the cows that have to be killed so that they are not totally wasted. it is really about efficiency. twisted but 'efficient'.

  7. What like this ? by MerlynEmrys67 · · Score: 2, Informative
    The Mootrix

    Can't find it but PETA (I think) did a Mootrix take off as well as a video, was pretty funny on "farm raised" animals stuck in the Mootrix

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  8. Get America Mooooooooooving! by tzanger · · Score: 2, Funny

    We should really be able to milk this for all it's worth; there's a lot at steak [sic]. Let's just hope it's not udderly ridiculous, as it behooves us to grab the bull by the horns and find alternative fuels. Hopefully this steers the industry into greener pastures.

    ok. I think that's out of my system now... Sorry.

  9. The Meatrix by antizeus · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Here: The Meatrix.

    It's a Flash animation thing. If you'd prefer a web page, look here: Action Page.

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  10. Re:BRRAAAAIIIINNNSSS by orthogonal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've always wondered, is it better to kill a cow without it knowing, or to use the current method of lining the cows up for slaughter?

    Stress causes muscles to tense up and prevents the release of toxins from the muscle tissue into the bloodstream. Relaxed muscles do the opposite and are usually fairly clean because of a fresh supply of aerobic blood.


    Wrong on two counts.

    Cows do line up, but they don't show any sign of knowing that they're going to die. Noted animal behaviorist Temple Grandin, in her book Thinking in Pictures (which is actually about her autism), writes that cows are stressed to be separated from their fellows, but are calmed to be able see one another -- seeing that the cow in front is unstressed cues the cow behind to be unstressed. Except in Kosher slaughterhouses, death comes so suddenly (either by a bolt shot into the brain or by electrical stunning) that the following cow hasn't time to become upset before it too dies. To help ensure this, Grandin introduced curving passageways, such that the cow can see the cow ahead, but only the cow immediately ahead.

    As to the effects of stress, you're also (mostly) wrong. Stress causes the release of cortisol, but this isn't a toxin per se. But a standard method in societies that butcher and eat meat immediately, is to chase or terrorize animals for a while prior to butchering, not to release cortisol, but to tire the muscles, using up oxygen reserves, so that lactic acid is released. Lactic acid is a natural tenderizer -- it's that "burn" you feel in muscles when you do aerobic exercises (but distinct from the pain of torn muscles as in weight training, although that tearing no doubt adds to the tenderizing too).

    Additionally, in Korea and other countries that believe in the aphrodisiacal properties of dog meat, it is believed that the longer the dog is terrorized and beaten prior to slaughter, the greater the aphrodisiacal properties of the meat.

    If you really want flavorful, tender meat, you want to look to the lineage of the beef, to control fat to muscle ratio, etc., and to the animals' diet -- what do you think "corned beef" is --, to control flavor. To add more flavor and to tenderize met, a good marinade is probably a good bet too.

  11. Re:Huh? by br0ck · · Score: 3, Interesting

    COMBUSTED

    The prions that cause BSE are incredibly hardy and are extremely heat resistant! They can easily withstand 1 hour at 360 C.

    IDIOT

    Why not just state your case without the flame? Take a deep breath, relax, think happy thoughts.. then post.

  12. Perhaps not. by Seraphim_72 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Mad Cow disease is a disease of prions - and from here

    IV. PRIONS Prions are extremely resistant to conventional inactivation procedures including irradiation, boiling, dry heat and chemicals (formalin, betapropiolactione, alcohols). Most procedures reduce infectivity rather than eliminate it. All treated contaminated materials should be discarded through the infectious waste stream and incinerated. Use DISPOSABLE plastic labware whenever possible.
    1. Complete and sign the Notification of the Proposed Destruction of Select Agents Form
    2. EHRS will notify the PI or lab manager when destruction is approved.
    3. Inactivate prions by one of the following methods:
    4. * Autoclave dry waste at 132 C for 4.5 hours.
    5. * Treat large volumes of infectious liquid waste containing prions with 1N NaOH (final concentration) followed by autoclaving at 132 C for 4.5 hours.
    6. * Treat with phenol (1:1); guanidine hydrochloride or isocyanate (>4 mol/L); 1N NaOH (final concentration); sodium hypochlorite (>2% free chlorine) for 24 hours.
    7. Dispose of inactivated prion waste as infectious waste.


    Somehow I doubt you can made good fuel this way. Besides which I personally still wouldnt touch the stuff even after all of this had been done to it. And that is what I teach my students as well.
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    1. Re:Perhaps not. by be951 · · Score: 2, Informative
      Somehow I doubt you can made good fuel this way.

      Well, no. Not that way. But thermal deploymerization seems likely to work rather well. It uses significantly higher temperatures plus high pressure to break down almost anything into short chain hydrocarbons useful for fuel, plus minerals (useful for fertilizer) and water. Here's an example. I believe it has not been specifically tested for destroying prions, but the chemistry indicates that it will.

  13. 2 dollars? by den_erpel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    $2.00 per gallon of gas

    I really don't know what people are complaining about, $2 dollars per gallon is not that expensive.

    This is $0.46 per litre.
    This morning, I payed 1.1 Euro per litre, or $1.46 or $6.30 per gallon; a surplus of $4.32 per gallon.

    OK, I admit that this is expensive, but the world does not stop and our economy is running pretty smoothly (could always go better, I admit).

    Just put those $2 measly dollars per gallon into perspective and perhaps, just perhaps, consider other (alternative) means of transportation...

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