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Is Linux Improving Life Of Poor In India?

mood6 writes "Linux Journal has a nice article on Automating Government with e-Governance. It discusses Linux usage by the Indian government to improve the lives of the rural poor (interesting look at how the IT boom in India is benefiting the poor). The article covers some of the difficulties in deploying Linux in non-English languages for government usage. Good read for those looking at Linux in e-Governance projects and a good follow up to a previous article by Tom Adelstein. In support of full disclosure: I wrote the article and the platform was developed by Delixus, my current company."

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  1. Prime Minister by MulluskO · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Although Ghandi has refused the position, I heard that one of the main reasons the previous prime minister of India was so unpredictably ousted was because the rural constituents felt marginalized by his focus on developing high-tech industry while regular industries and agriculture were suffering. I think there's a luddite streak running through the Indian poor that was previously unnoticed.

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    Too busy staying alive... ~ R.A.
    1. Re:Prime Minister by the-build-chicken · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't know whether wanting to be able to eat makes you a luddite?

  2. In many poor... by Phidoux · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... and developing countries Linux offers a viable alternative to commercial software (Read Microsoft). Linux offers a wonderful opportunity to provide services in many cash strapped communities and is really helping to bridge the "digital divide".

    The company I work for has recently started a program of donating old PCs to schools in various parts of our country. Of course the schools (Who can't afford to buy hardware) can't afford the licensing fees on commercial software, so Linux (And many other open source products) is filling the gap and providing working systems for teaching and learning.

  3. this is a complicated question by v1x · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The outcomes of the latest election were interpreted by the political experts as an outright rejection of the notion that the country's newly-found strength in IT had benefitted the rural poor. In the light of this, it would seem unlikely that any one technology (not just Linux) would have had a noticeable improvement in their lives. Then again, perception and reality can sometimes be two completely opposite things, so one can never be sure of that either.

    1. Re:this is a complicated question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "I just love how dumb Americans can be. Let's take one sentence and use it to describe a nation "

      The definition of recursive stupidity...

  4. Questionable... by KRYnosemg33 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "A major business value provided by Linux to governments is freedom from outside influence by a foreign corporation, namely Microsoft."

    That sounds great, but how is Delixus not trying to place themself in a similar position to Microsoft? Delixus is still trying to make a profit even if the OS is free. They claim Linux provides the ability to change vendors ... sure so does Microsoft. But everyone knows once any organization choses a software system (*cough* Delixus' e-Governance *cough*), they rarely change. This is not a Linux thing, it's a business thing.

    "The Delixus e-Governance Platform uses a Web-based user interface to allow applicants to access the e-Governance application from any Internet cafe"

    Again, this is great, but the article says near the top how pension offices were so far away from villages. Are internet cafes closer to villages than pension offices? Uhh...

  5. please OMG by Ckwop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not trolling.. I'm not a troll (look at my history to see that) but seriously..

    LINUX IS JUST SOFTWARE.

    It will not:

    1.) Feed the hungry.
    2.) Bring world peace.
    3.) Become a viable renewable power source.

    It's just free software.. and that's a good thing.. :D

    Simon.

  6. pseudo analysts on slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ok how are slshdotters supposed to know what's right for India? Frankly I dont give a damn about what slashdot thinks is right for India. We Indians know what's right for India. All the posts about "give them food & medicine first" that's all stupidness.

    I'm going to go offtopic here, cause it's somewhat relevant plus I need to rant:

    And all the faux intellectuals you see on TV, half of whom have never stepped on Indian soil, make me laugh as they try to analyze the Ghandi win. All this sudden chatter of the "negelcted poor" etc. this is all BS speech. The media's TV analysts have absolutely no clue how and why the poor in India votes.

    The media has twisted Congress party to look to the outside world like they are anti market economy when in fact the opposite is true. Anyone who sees the election outcome in India as a leftward shift away from economic reforms has no clue what their talking about.

    This win for congress has NOTHING to do with economics. The reforms were initiated in full force by Congress party. Everyone knows this.

    India's economic reforms are on track and will remain so.

  7. Article is a bit misleading... by LordSah · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Delixus website is quite scant on information on eGovernance. See here. It mentions that eGovernance runs on Windows as well as Linux. With that in mind, the article only boils down to the same benefits of Linux mentioned everywhere else. (Whether the specific benefits mentioned are actual or merely popular perceptions is often debated). I could easily see someone writing a similar Windows-version of the article, quoting the merits of Windows and saying "Windows is Helping the Poor Folk in India".

    I think the article would've been better spent on what eGovernance really is, and why it benefits poor people. I'd find it more interesting, anyway.

  8. Re:Mod parent down by LordSah · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I did actually (go subscribers). I came away thinking that it was really talking about eGovernance, and how Linux was condusive to making it work. Everything mentioned could've been implemented on top of Windows (and since the Delixus website says eGovernance runs on Windows as well, I assume it has). I think it should've been "Is Technology Improving Life of Poor in India?", because it wasn't unique to Linux.

  9. Re:Who knows? by Soko · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I beg to differ with your "Linux is a very difficult product to commoditize" statement. Linux is turning operating systems into a commodity - the tool is cheap, it's the expertise to use that particular tool that's pricey.

    As with any tool, you have to take the good with the bad. Linux cannot choose sides - as this post points out, Linux is just software - it itself has no moral compass.

    Too, which side of the equation you on seems to define the morality - if you're someone who made out like a bandit in the .com era and are now struggling, outsourcing is bad. If you're a poor farmer in India whose child just turned the educaion that you paid for with the sweat of your brow into a steady, paying job, outsourcing is good.

    I've been affected by outsourcing myself - the job I held was "terminated" since the whole department was picked up and moved to a cheaper part of the country. Different story, same effect - I was out of a job for a year, and took a lower paying position to feed my family.

    Anyone "talking up Linux" is good, IMHO - even my former employers. As you said, it's not Linux's fault. It's just market forces in action.

    Soko

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    "Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm." - Anonymous
  10. The answer is No by romit_icarus · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Indians have more immediate needs, water and electricity (pani aur bijli), before they can seek the benefits of e-governance.

    That's the reason why Chandrababu Naidu, a sophisticated and technology-aggressive politician, got the boot.

    Good basic governance comes before e-governance.

  11. Here is a radical idea by logicnazi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Improve the lives of indians by letting them have jobs!!

    Yes, this means not discriminating against them because they aren't US citizens. An indian citizen is no less deserving than someone in the USA of a high standard of living. If we are really concerned about the livelihoods of our fellow humans (and not some bizarre ideology where american lives are worth more than indian lives) this means abandoning all these silly 'buy american' campaigns or protesting when IT companies outsource.

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    If you liked this thought maybe you would find my blog nice too:

  12. Re:Is Linux Improving Life Of Poor In India? by RobinH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Although living standards have dramatically improved for all Indians, it is still widely considered to be a third world country.
    -Approximately 25% of the Indian population are below the poverty line
    -The water supply is so polluted that people must buy or boil their water.
    -The poor are discriminated against in education.
    -Health care in India? What health care?


    So, when reading this, did anyone else think that with the exception of the water supply issue, these are all applicable to the U.S. as well? Obviously not to the same degree, but still.

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    "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain
  13. Re:And yet... by AgntOrnge · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would have to guess the poor don't even know what or have never even heard of Linux. If I were living in abject poverty I think I'd be more concerned with putting food on the table or having a roof over my head than realzing the benefits of some silly computer.