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Microsoft Office 2004 for Mac Released

kylea writes "Office 2004 for Mac OS X has finally been released. From the Apple page: The latest improvements to the Office productivity suite promise new approaches to create, manage and distribute your projects. New features and tools in the programs help you get work done more efficiently. And now you can extend your reach beyond Office with greatly improved AppleScript support."

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  1. I'll stick to LaTeX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It works just fine for me.

  2. Yes, but... by smoondog · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Can it connect seemlessly to Exchange servers?

    -Sean

  3. Had some problems with it. by Thinkit4 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The spreadsheet just wasn't up to task--printing was a real problem. Information will be free and consciousness will be hosted on computers some day. But for now, office just does more.

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  4. Re:More M$ Arrogance... by shrapnull · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Don't let me mislead you, they have support for Exchange, it's just not very complete or thorough...

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  5. Re:More M$ Arrogance... by jimbolaya · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I'm afraid I don't understand. The only difference between the Professional and Standard versions are that the Pro version comes with Virtual PC. Of course you have to wait for Virtual PC to be ready! If you don't want VPC, just get the Standard version.

    Incidentally, I believe the delay is in getting VPC to run on G5s, not getting it to run on Panther.

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  6. Re:which version by Atsi+Otani · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I generally like Entourage and its interface (which is why I use it), but I can't stand how it stores my mail.

    In the Apple Mail app, mail is stored in .mbox files. I like this - all I have to do if I want to backup mail is copy the mbox file. On the other hand, Entourage stores mail in its own proprietary format, and I haven't been able to find out how to work with it.

    I only recently learned that when you drag Entourage mailboxes to your desktop, they are saved as mbox files (although I haven't tried it yet - haven't been doing backups lately). Of course, this isn't documented by Microsoft - could have saved me a lot of trouble if they had.

    Does anyone know whether you can do this in the new version? I really don't plan to get the new Office (give me a good reason why I should upgrade), but I was curious.

  7. this is a little late for a "news" announcement by coolaider · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It has been on sale for about a week at the Apple Retail and Web Stores.

  8. Comments regading teacher/student version by CaptainAbstraction · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have the (full) teacher/student version. I get the mailbox lock error constantly for my IMAP account. I have it checking for new mail every 5 minutes, and about half the time I get an error.

    On the web, people have suggested unchecking "send commands simultaneously" from the Account configuration menu (just google for it). But that doesn't seem to help. Any other suggestions?

    Also, the "live sync" option for IMAP accounts doesn't seem to work. I expect to be notified immediately when I get new mail, but it only notifies me when I'm actively doing something with Entourage (reading old messages, etc.).

    Finally, if you have "live sync" on AND have the account included in your "send & receive" schedule, Entourage seems to get the mail twice, resulting in duplicate mails appearing in my inbox. And then you can only "delete" one of them. To get rid of the second one, you have drag it to the trash.

    I ran into all these problems the first hour of using Entourage. Very disappointing.

    -Andrew

    1. Re:Comments regading teacher/student version by geek · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I already unchecked send simultaneously and it seems to have fixed my problem. Live sync was killing me. Keep in mind those are both functions of the server, if the server doesn't support them the client will error. The error messages should be more descriptive however. I wasn't recieving messages twice, that sounds like you may have some screwy rules set up.

      It works dandy for me now, granted live sync would be nice but at least my messages are stored in a central location.

      -todd

  9. Re:Question for early adopters - address book/iCal by philge · · Score: 2, Interesting

    have't played with the new version but both are address books are scriptable so it should not be hard to write an applescript studio app to sync them. Not sure ab out the calenders though might ave a look when I get access to a copy. The applescript on entourage is intprevious verions has been some of the best I have seen

  10. Re:Let me be the first to say that by jwthompson2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I use both MS Office and AppleWorks for school and have found AppleWorks handling of sections lacking when I need to format a paper in the Turabian/Chicago style. Word handles it very well as does OpenOffice. I usually still use AppleWorks to draft my papers but that is only becasue I am better at keyboard shortcuts with it which makes the initial writing process easier for me.

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  11. Re:How about compatibility with Windows Office? by bw5353 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I know the compatibility can be shaky, but I have one example of the opposite. We got a huge Word document created using Rational Rose and Office 2K, and it just refused to print from Office 2K. No one knows why.

    Finally someone got the bright idea to transfer it to a Mac, open it in Office X, save it as PDF and send it back to the PC. It worked like a charm. The printing from Acrobat on Windows 2K was perfect and all formating was fine.

    In this case MacOS X actually helped us with an MS document that Windows 2K could not handle on its own.

  12. Re:Let me be the first to say that by misterpies · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Appleworks is just about passable if you don't need to write anything more complicated than a letter or a memo. For any substantial document, it's hopeless. It's the big exception to user friendliness in Apple's product range - trying to get auto-numbered sections or create and use custom paragraph styles is needlessly difficult. And it has a tendency to lose any advanced formatting when importing docs from Word. It took me less than a day to realise that I needed to by Office for mac.

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  13. MS did something a little different this time! by rspress · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Instead of the usual MS tactic of going for full bore feature bloat they really cleaned up the rough edges and most new features were done with restraint....a word not usually present in the MS dictionary.

    I wish my Windows XP version of Office looked and acted a lot more like the latest version for OS X. This has just added yet another reason for me not to fire up the XP box when I need to edit a word document. Thanks Microsoft!