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Microchips to Save Peru's Alpacas

lakeesis writes "BBC News has published an article stating: 'Peru has launched a campaign to implant microchips in hundreds of pedigree alpacas to try to stop the best animals being smuggled out of the country. Officials say they know alpacas are being sneaked across Peru's borders'."

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  1. Technology for the sake of technology? by metlin · · Score: 5, Insightful


    All it takes for the people smuggling the animals is to take a hand-held scanner and find out the location of the microchip and cut it out.

    If it is easy to implant, it would be easy to remove.

    Hmm, looks like they are just trying to throw technology at a problem hoping it would work.

    Then again, ofcourse, the smugglers maybe quite unaware of this and the more gullible ones may just get caught.

    And oh, first post?

    1. Re:Technology for the sake of technology? by shikra · · Score: 5, Informative

      Apparently you have not had any real world contact with such technology. I happen to be in rather close contact with the Asian Arowana (Scleropages formosus) industry, and this technology has been used rather successfully. The fish has been deemed endangered by CITES, and as such it would be illegal to catch it from the wild. CITES-registered farms are required to tag each fish with an electronic microchip, and these farm-raised fish can then be exported or sold domestically. All the officials needed to do during their routine checks for illegal stock is to scan the fish in question with a hand-held scanner, which would reveal a registration number instantly (which could be matched with a paper certificate of authenticity).

    2. Re:Technology for the sake of technology? by kfg · · Score: 5, Interesting

      the smugglers maybe quite unaware of this and the more gullible ones may just get caught.

      The people who do the smuggling are not peasants or petty criminals. It's an upscale crime undertaken by those who are already quite well off, by the very nature of what's required to pull it off. Smugglers in business suits driving Mercedes, who read newspapers.

      And a legitimate pedigreed Purvian alpaca might bring as much as $100,000.

      That's right, for a single animal. We're talking big business here. An American bred alpaca with a couple of show ribbons to its credit might well run you $30,000.

      The headline is misleading. The Peruvian alpaca is in no danger. It's in danger of spreading. What's at risk is the market value of Peruvian alpaca fleece. For the most part what's going on constitutes what most people think of as "saving" an animal today.

      Camalids are being reintroduced into territories in which they have become extinct.

      This is a trade embargo vs. free trade/open market issue, not a "saving the poor little furry thing" issue. The only animals being moved are pedigree domestic stock. 4H club stuff. Legitimate tradable goods that the government doesn't want traded out of the country.

      KFG

    3. Re:Technology for the sake of technology? by Threni · · Score: 2, Interesting

      >If it is easy to implant, it would be easy to remove.

      Or modded. A multi-region animal ought to be easy to move into another country.

    4. Re:Technology for the sake of technology? by kfg · · Score: 3, Interesting

      However, I do not think that alpaca fleece is quite the luxury item in Peru, Bolivia and Chile like it is in the US...

      Exactly the point, from the Purvian point of view.

      You're certainly right about the showing, breeding and pyramid scheme aspects of the American Alpaca market though. It's the very reason that I don't breed Alpacas myself. It is also what makes animals of a certain pedigree so valuable here (Although they have closed down registration to new Purvian animals. When I said it is a 4H club type issue I was speaking about inside Peru where the animals are common and ownable on a peasant's budget, just like prize pigs or sheep are here).

      KFG

  2. Removal? by LordChaos · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Won't the smugglers just remove the chips, much in the same way that people now remove microchips from pedigree animals stolen from family homes?
    I personally think they will have to do a bit better than this, but full marks for trying :)

    1. Re:Removal? by acceber · · Score: 3, Informative
      The plan is to tag some 900 top alpacas within five years.

      I understand that Peru wants to save their pedigrees but tagging 900 out of 3,000,000 native Alpacas isn't going to be very effective. Although it's a great initiative, they're only micro-chipping a mere 0.03% which would make catching smugglers are very inefficient process.

    2. Re:Removal? by 0x0d0a · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You are assuming an even distribution in alpaca quality. We know that this is not the case, as there are specific alpacas that are banned from being exported.

      If smugglers are trying to export the best of the best, it's likely that:

      * These alpacas are separated from the rest of the herd to avoid unwanted damage and breeding. This probably makes them easier to identify.

      * Even if mixed with lesser speciments of their breed, these alpacas may be visually differentiable to someone familiar with judging alpaca quality. For instance, let us assume that Peru is breeding alpacas to have particularly large, firm rear ends. One would imagine that someone that has worked intimately with alpacas for years would be able to quickly visually skim over alpacas and identify the ones to be stolen. It's even possible that they could take part in an "inside job" -- being hired by an alpaca owner, identifying the best alpacas, and then taking a list or marking these to later be stolen.

      * There is presumably some dissuasive factor involved in making the statement of microchip presence at *all*. Heck, the chips don't even really have to be there -- it'd drive a smuggler mad to think that he stole what seems to be a really excellent, high-quality alpaca, but cannot find the supposed embedded chip.

      * I'm of the suspicion that many Peruvian alpaca rustlers may have been deprived of a thorough statistics education (thus forcing them to smuggle alpacas instead of becoming credit card market analysts). They may not catch on to how unlikely it is to get the short straw -- Americans certainly don't when it comes to lotteries, for instance.

  3. Safeguard the genepool? by metlin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sheesh! The things people do for greed.

    "...safeguard the gene pool of its three million-strong herd."

    You mean, safeguard the genepool to stay within Peru. Heh.

    Peruvian law bans the exportation of alpacas that win pedigree certificates.

    Wow. Safeguard the genepool so that the best stay within my borders. Not to troll, but unless these have been specially bred (say, genetically modified), you are trying to hold onto what nature has bestowed upon you.

    And prevent the best from getting out, so that if there is any disease or epidemic, the best will all die out with not too many of them outside my borders.

    And that is good how?

    1. Re:Safeguard the genepool? by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ...are trying to hold onto what nature has bestowed upon...

      Sorta like some countries like to protect their natural resources from getting out... like oil.

      Shame on them!

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    2. Re:Safeguard the genepool? by kunudo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sorta like some countries like to protect their natural resources from getting out... like oil.

      Shame on them!


      Hi, I'm from Norway, the third largest exporter of oil in the world. You can have all the oil you want from us, provided you pay market price and keep your fucking army on the right side of the atlantic.

      Also, the difference between oil and alpakkas is of course that you can continue exporting oil and never run the risk of having some competitor set up his own oil-field based on top stuff he bought from you. Unlike with alpakkas, you either have it or you don't.

  4. Best... quote... ever! by nacturation · · Score: 4, Funny
    From the article:
    Alpacas, along with related llamas, vicunas and guanacos, are native to South America but are increasingly popular in other parts of the world - not only for their fleeces.

    They also make tasty, lean steaks.
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    1. Re:Best... quote... ever! by beacher · · Score: 2, Funny

      They're also being exploited by the motion picture industry-- When I saw the picture I thought it was funny.. but later on when I found out that it endangered them.. I felt really sad...

      Directed By

      40 SPECIALLY TRAINED ECUADORIAN MOUNTAIN LLAMAS
      6 VENEZUELAN RED LLAMAS
      142 MEXICAN WHOOPING LLAMAS
      14 NORTH CHILEAN GUANACOS (CLOSELY RELATED TO THE LLAMA)
      REG LLAMA OF BRIXTON
      76000 BATTERY LLAMAS FROM "LLAMA-FRESH" FARMS LTD. NEAR PARAGUAY

      and

      TERRY GILLIAM & TERRY JONES

      Sad. Tragic.

  5. Suppose it wouldn't go over well with the wife... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    if I asked about getting these for the kids? Sure, there is probably some kind of law against, but *you* try keeping track of a three year old in a supermarket.

  6. I would stop stealing them... by imag0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I would stop stealing them if they stopped making them so goddammed cute!

  7. Finally by fiskbil · · Score: 2, Funny

    Thank god!

    I've been so worried about those poor alpacas I've been having trouble sleeping. We all know the only people who can properly care for alpacas are from Peru.

  8. Its a conspiracy! by dj245 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I don't know if the rest of you have seen the Alpaca commercials, but they reek of Multilevel marketing (MLM) pyramid schemes. They make it clear that you will raise Alpacas, then you will get others interested in Aplacas, and then you will sell them Alpacas! Kind of like the 1. 2.? 3. Underwear knome thing only less innocent and more evil. In fact, 8 of the top 10 Google hits for Alpaca are not articles of clothing made of Alpaca or Alpaca steak, but Alpacas for sale.

    This has me worried though (from the article):
    "We know that alpacas are being moved across the border with Bolivia and then on to Chile," Pilar Tuppia from Peru's National Council of South American Camelids told the Associated Press.
    This included "unscrupulous individuals" buying top animals from poor people in the countryside, she said."

    If these people's animals are such top-notch and pedigree, why are they so poor and living in the countryside? Isn't the Alpaca industry booming?

    I'm not the only person to thing that the Alpaca business is a little fishy. See here and here (google cache of geocities page)

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    1. Re:Its a conspiracy! by mangu · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Since it's reportedly a growing business, it's natural that a significant part of the market is selling studs to farmers. However, alpaca does have a market that's potentially much better than the emu and ostrich farming mentioned by the links you posted. Alpacas produce a fine wool, much nicer to the touch than sheep wool. They also come in several diferent natural colors.


      The part about poor people having top animals sounds strange. If that's true, then instead of trying to tag the animals they should be trying to develop the market so those poor people could profit from their fine animals.

  9. take care when eating those steaks by circletimessquare · · Score: 2, Funny

    depending on how large these microchips are, after eating one of those steaks, you may find yourself being hunted by l33t peruvian rangers, insisting you are an alpaca

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  10. Too Bad by annielaurie · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They have enough money to acquire implants for their top alpacas, but they don't seem to be able to summon up what's needed to develop a viable textile industry for the benefit of the people who raise and work with the alpacas.

    It's a marvelous wool--warm, lightweight, soft, and non-allergenic. It can be spun and knitted or woven into highly coveted, very expensive textiles. I suspect that if more thought were put into this effort, the owners of the pedigreed alpacas would have more interest in keeping them at home in Peru.

    Anne

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