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More Insight On Longhorn's Avalon And Aero Design
Lispy writes "While monitoring the Xorg mailinglist I came across this set of WinHEC PPT-presentations (work fine in OOorg) that cover some interesting details on the underlying architecture of Aero, Aero Glass and future font rendering in Microsoft's upcoming Longhorn OS. What does the Slashdot crowd think about the overall design and its downsides, such as power consumption on notebooks?" (KPresenter works fine, too, btw.)
The date is pretty much up for grabs. Everyone has their own opinion - everyone is speculating. Some say as soon as next year, others say as late as 2007.
Last I heard, it's schedule for the day after Duke Nukem: Forever.
Isn't replacing the operating system to fix the left side of certain characters in certain fonts using a rather large hammer to solve the problem? :)
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
Peeeerrrrty
Look at those two screen shots. If Longhorn wan't an OS I would bang her 4 times a day.
Then again, I would get a virus, like MSclap
=)
I'm not interested in warezing it; Why steal a Ford Pinto when Linus is giving away Lamborghinis for free?
Almighty Railgun
You Speak a Lethal Gospel!
Bloody Gibs Follow.
call it longshot
What would Edward Tufte make of this plot? Ah well, perhaps the multidimensional rotating bar graph will be of some use, should the presenter want to conceal some data.
It's somewhat disappointing that the presenter chose not to include a lens flare, though.
Perhaps "Iron Pyrites" would probably be the best mineral related name for Direct3D.
Bad analogies are like waxing a monkey with a rainbow.
While I have to admit it sounds cool, I can't really think of a real need for this.
;-)
And while you are at it, I think I speak for everyone when I say I can't think of a real need for Longhorn either
from the 2nd presentation (in huge capitals, orange text on blue background to make your eyes bleed. So far for userfriendlyness)
"64-bit is the future !!"
Doh. MS is missing the ball by a few 100 miles again : Billy, 64-bit is THE PRESENT. 128bit or nanocomputing is the future.
When will I end this grieving ? When will my future begin ?
Gesundheit.
You know what I hate? Wait, what do you like? I hate that!
are they creating video game or operating system?
What does the Slashdot crowd think about the overall design and its downsides, such as power consumption on notebooks?
:-P
At least the submitter understand there's no use asking for its upsides here.
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
"Where are the Baldur's Gate clones"
I'm glad you know what's important in a modern OS.
I have trouble with passwords among other things.
Don't engineer it specifically as how YOU would want it done, engineer it as how you think Joe Sixpack would like it to be done.
Do that and most of the appeal of Linux to me, and to many others, goes down the drain. While I understand that a lot of people are looking for something that's a drop in replacement for windows, doing everything the same way but without the microsoft label, there's a large amount of people using Linux just because we prefer the way it works. We like it specifically because it's an operating system which primarily targets the way we do things, as opposed to targeting the way Joe Sixpack operates. He already has an operating system geared to him, I don't see why he should have ours as well.
Everything will be taken away from you.
1. Indigo, the new .Net secret sauce coming with Longhorn, will no longer use Remoting "over the wire". Everything is going to be SOAP and web services. Sounds wonderful, right? I think so too. BUT, many consultants are busy writing all your company's apps using remoting between servers! Guess what THAT means?
Oh my gosh, you are so right! A vague description of unnamed "consultants" who are busy writing my company's apps using remoting between servers! You have convinced me with your facts, sir.
2. All your computers are going to be landfill fodder, because Longhorn's hardware requirements are going to SMOKE 'em. Ah, well, we didn't need those 20,000 PCs anyway. And, the budget looks so much better cratered. It's like a big empty swimming pool. Makes me think of summer.
After all, you'll still be using the same PCs you use now in 2006, right?
3. Performance? The users are asking about performance? Um... HUSH! Look at the pretty screens, children! Ooh, transparency!
Complete troll. You don't know what performance will be like on a 2006-level computer with a standard DirectX 9 video card. How could this possibly be insightful? KDE has transparency too, and it's slower than syrup in winter.
4. Filesystem? We don't need no stinkin' filesystem. Let's put everything in a DATABASE!!!
Ok, they might not get this into Longhorn, but it's coming. All your apps that touch the filesystem? Kiss 'em goodbye.
Except that NTFS is still there, so apps that access NTFS will, gasp, still be able to access NTFS since it's still there. WinFS is just a database service running on top of NTFS. But, hey, what's a little Slashbot misinformation to spread false memes that magically become "truth", eh? Just like how WinFS was "cancelled" and Longhorn is "vaporware."
5. More DRM. What's that? the users didn't ask for it? Let's surprise 'em; they'll be so happy!
Name a single bit of DRM in Windows XP. Activation? Regular users don't care. Windows Media Player? The first thing that pops up is a privacy page allowing you to disable automatic CD detection (which, you know, all Linux media players seem to do automatically without asking you).
If you don't want to use signed content, use something else. How is this difficult? You think there won't be free alternatives for Windows if you're so paranoid about your warez phoning home?
6. A new, different and strange iteration of IE to worry about. Sigh; better set up resources for the recoding of all your web pages, just in case.
Please cite a single example of what will be "new, different and strange" about the new IE, seeing as how you've never used it since it's not out yet and couldn't possibly know.
If something works in IE now, it will work in IE7. Microsoft isn't going to break 90% of the Internet for Longhorn. Things seem to be running just fine despite Slashbots' innate hatred of IE.
Ah, well. It should be exciting! And, who knows? Maybe the Indians will find it all just too ugly to work with and offshore all the work back here ("Oh, this is just too UGLY, you may take it back, please... No, really. No, I must insist. Oh, you are too kind, sir, but NO, I REALLY must insist... Oh you are making me very ANGRY sir, do not make me go medaeval on your unruly buttocks in the manner of Marcellus!").
Any moderator modding this up needs to have their heads checked. I fully expect to see this troll post linked on Anti-Slash within the next 24 hours.