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4km WiFi Range w/ $5 DIY Antenna

Mignon writes "This industrious fellow in New Zealand made his own WiFi antenna using a USB WiFi adapter and a Chinese 'spider skimmer mesh scoop.' He got about 17 dB signal improvement for about US $5 in materials." Update: 05/25 23:09 GMT by T : Reader John Stockdale offers a U.S. hosted mirror of the site. Update: 05/26 13:58 GMT by T : Reader Jared Mauch contributes another mirror.

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  1. freecache link by rpdillon · · Score: 5, Informative

    There was a story about freecache, but no one here on slashdot ever uses it in stories. Here's a pre-cached link, in case the main NZ server goes up in smoke. http://www.freecache.org/http://www.usbwifi.orcon. net.nz/

  2. So now we call it. . . by Sialagogue · · Score: 5, Funny

    General Tso's Access Point.

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  3. Apparently... by I_Love_Pocky! · · Score: 4, Funny

    it has other uses as well. If you wrap your head in this spider silk mesh it is even more effective at blocking the evil thought control waves than tin foil!

  4. Why haven't AP manufacturers tried this? by bobhagopian · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if there are hidden shortcomings to this technique. If it only costs $5, I would think that manufacturers of wireless access points would have implemented this a long time ago (or at least made it available as a $40 add on). After all, there *is* a market for it, and at least some people would buy such a device.

    1. Re:Why haven't AP manufacturers tried this? by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Possibly not.

      In the US I believe the output is measured by the effective output of the antenna (essentially transmitter power + gain AFAIK). This allows you to build directional antennas that can go some distance (you're also allowed a whole 1W signal which is quite a lot).

      OTOH in Europe we measure EIRP, which is total power in any direction - so directional transmitters are illegal (we also only get 100mw to play with). This is why things like the WRT54G are so useful - you can have a really powerful receiver (not limited) and a still use the legal transmitter in the other aerial.

    2. Re:Why haven't AP manufacturers tried this? by j1m+5n0w · · Score: 4, Informative

      IIRC, the maximum tx power in the 2.4ghz band for unlicensed users is 1 watt, or 4 watts EIRP. For point-to-point links, though, you can trade 1db of power reduction for 3 db of antenna gain, allowing much higher EIRP.

      More info is here

      -jim

  5. Too bad it's directional by pedantic+bore · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The antenna is directional so this kind of range isn't that helpful unless the two end points are stationary. Which is exactly the kind of thing I don't use wireless for...



    I guess it's a neat hack if that's the only way to communicate with your friend 4Km away, and you only have one friend (or your one friend has a nice network connection to the rest of the world and is willing to share).

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    1. Re:Too bad it's directional by Hamstaus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The antenna is directional so this kind of range isn't that helpful unless the two end points are stationary.

      Wrong. It isn't helpful unless one end point is stationary. Which is a big difference.

      Case in point. I live on a fairly large property. I'm trying to extend my wireless signal to the edge of the property, where my hammock is, so I can work in my hammock. A directional antenna hooked to the transmitter on my router inside my house extends the range in whatever direction I point the antenna in, i.e. towards my hammock. Since the antenna increase pickup as well as transmit power, I just put it on my stationary router, and I don't need to do anything to my wi-fi card on my mobile laptop.

      If I wanted to extend coverage to the whole property, I could aim my antenna at a distant repeater to get omnidirectional coverage from the repeater, while still increasing range from my base-station router.

      Wireless rules.

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  6. Re:What direction? by another_henry · · Score: 4, Informative

    It couldn't possibly be omnidirectional. That would break the laws of physics. To get a boost in signal strength you must either make it more directional or increase the power itself with an amplifier.

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  7. Temporary Mirror at Stanford University by jstockdale · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.stanford.edu/~jstockdl/tmp/usbwifi.orco n.net.nz/

    Mirrored as much as I could of the images before the server was smoked.

    -S ...

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  8. Nice work by Beuno · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Good to know some people are still trying to improve technology remembering that not everybody has 1 trilion dollars a month to spend on over-priced gadgets.

    Good work!

  9. See Kiwis, we really do deserve our... by interpretthis.org · · Score: 4, Funny

    Piece of number eight wire reputation.

    Hmm, now I feel sadly parochial.

  10. Unlimited gain! (but it doesn't matter) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    In theory for a transmitting antenna, there is no limit to how much gain you can get. Gain is the ratio of received power to the power you would get with an isotropic radiator. To get gain, you just focus the beam tighter. The limit to how tight you can focus the beam is set by the aperture of the antenna. The gain of a receiving antenna is set by its effective area. Gain isn't hard to get.

    The bigger problem is to get line of sight. At this frequency, if you can't get line of sight, all the gain in the world won't help.

  11. Re:What direction? by j1m+5n0w · · Score: 5, Informative
    It couldn't possibly be omnidirectional. That would break the laws of physics. To get a boost in signal strength you must either make it more directional or increase the power itself with an amplifier.

    "Omnidirectional" is somewhat of a misnomer. Omnis transmit a pancake-shaped signal -- good signal in all directions in the same plane, but very little signal up and down. What you're refering to is called an isotropic radiator.

    -jim

  12. Re:Apple's had this for years by wankledot · · Score: 4, Interesting
    wtf are you talking about?

    The airport base station doesn't have a range anywhere NEAR 14km. There are lots of antenna out there for lots of base stations (including the Airport ones) that will give you that range, but Apple has not "had this for years" any more than every other vendor that sells products with the option of adding an antenna.

    Hell, Cisco has products that have 25 MILE ranges, with the right antenna.

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  13. One word by azav · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Chinese parabolic cookware"

    OMFG is that funny.

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  14. USB 802.11 dongles -- are any Linux friendly? by timothy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I just took a long car trip, relying mostly on (purchased and municipally provided*) 802.11 access, and in preparation for that trip bought a highish-end 802.11 card and extrernal patch antenna, which indeed came in handy.

    I considered one of the USB 802.11 donglers, but passed on account of ignorance: Are any of them of Linux-friendly? Are some brands better than others? Can anyone provide reception figures or anecdotes?

    It certainly would be nice to have a rooftop mount on my station wagon to which I could as necessary string up a 15' USB cable and thumb-drive-style 802.11 thing :)

    timothy

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  15. Re:What direction? by Daemonik+CyCow · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why can't we break the laws of physics?

  16. Shouda used the Wok... by HaeMaker · · Score: 4, Funny

    If he is getting that kind of gain from the scooper, imagine if he used the wok...

  17. Re:Dangers of this kind of ad hoc device by Gaewyn+L+Knight · · Score: 5, Informative

    The device is putting out the radiation... No matter antenna you put on it you don't increase the output of the device. Now you do focus it into a much "hotter" spot when you make it directional. Even so though none of these devices are allowed to excede 1W of effective radiated power (No commercial consumer device currently excedes 250mw).

    To give you an example... You microwave uses 4000 times that much power to cook food with.

    I would imagine if you stood in the beam path of a 20+db antenna for a couple months you would have health issues... but you also wouldn't have a signal :}

    As health risks go a cell phone is a MUCH larger output of power and you stick it right next to your head. Worry about those first :}

    And FWIW cantennas are no better... most directional antennas send most of their power out the front but all of them have sidelobes.

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  18. One problem with Chinese cookware antennas... by teamhasnoi · · Score: 5, Funny

    Once you've connected to the network, you'll just need to connect again in an hour or two.

  19. One word... by B747SP · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Bluejack

    I already built one of these things after the site first surfaced a couple of weeks ago. The neat thing about it is that it's modular insofar as your choice of radio goes. Unplug the 802.11b tranceiver, replace it with a usb Bluetooth tranceiver, aim at the nearest bus stop, and wa-la, bluejack city. Want to use 802.11g, or heaven forbid, 802.11a, plug one in! It's the ultimate in modular l33+ hax0r radio toys. Why, I reckon you could even plug an usb IrDA adaptor in there...

    No, wait... :-)

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  20. It's not $5.00, even in your money... by B747SP · · Score: 4, Informative
    As I said already, I built one of these already. My shopping list ran to a bit more than $5.00 though....

    • One 13 inch (the biggest one they had, basically!!!) Dumpling scoop thing from the 'Thai Kee' (chinese, not Thai!) supermarket on level 1 on the Market City shopping centre in Sydney's (Australia) chinatown. Turn right when you enter the shop, they're at the far end of the right-most aisle - AUD$15.85
    • One Netgear MA111 USB/802.11b adaptor from Dan at http://www.usbtech.com.au/ - AUD$69.00
    • One plastic hose joiner thing from Bunnings Hardware (Bunnings == direct copy of Home Depot) - AUD$0.80
    • One adhesive band-aid strip, to cover the gouge I put in my finger trying to cut the hose joiner up the side - AUD$0.00 (stolen from the office medical cabinet)

    I didn't shop around for best price, etc, etc, 'cos I knew that once this thing hit slashdot, there was gonna be a worldwide stockout on the chinese cookware. I could have gotten things a bit cheaper if I had shopped around, but short of an AUD$1200+ aeroplane ticket to Guangzhou and buying direct from manufacturers, there was no way this setup would cost $5.00 of anyone's money. With time and petrol and driving around, I guess it cost AUD$100.00. Good fun tho, and worth every cent.

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  21. Re:Shut up! Apple rules. Period. by pi42 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually, a lot of products have really long ranges -- right out of the box! I got a Linksys WiFi router and it seems like I can pick up my SSID "linksys" network all over the place!

    Heh heh..