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Camera Vans To Photograph 50 Million Buildings

dritan writes "A new van unveiled at CeBIT America is equipped with 50 digital cameras and takes pictures every 15 feet -- with the goal of photographing 50 million buildings in the country. These photos could be cross-referenced with aerial photographs so that law enforcement or insurance agencies can get overhead and street level views of the same location -- just by entering an address." Time to hang out the "Hi, Mom!" signs.

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  1. logical question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    is it legal?

    1. Re:logical question by ron_ivi · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I thought upskirt photos up short skirts are illegal in many communities even in places where people have not secluded themselves.

      Looks like the feds may outlaw this too .

      5/20/2004
      ... ban on upskirt photos and other kinds of video voyeurism by cell phone cameras, minicams, and other such technology, passed the House Judiciary Committee May 19.
      By this law, you don't have to "have secluded themselves", as the parent post suggests - just to have "a reasonable expectation of privacy regarding such body part or parts".

      So what happens if someone's wearing a short skirt when the truck goes by?

    2. Re:logical question by gnu-generation-one · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "is it legal?"

      Ask the guy who was arrested for taking photographs of the White House.

      (answer: it's legal for some people, and not for others)

    3. Re:logical question by Ra5pu7in · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There was a recent case with Barbara Streisand related to whether photographs that included private property belonged in the public domain. Her beachfront home was part of a whole series of coastline photos. Basically, she lost. IANAL, but I don't think the principle would be any different.

      It is necessary to get permission to publish a picture of a person, but it is not necessary to get the permission of every person in the background of a picture. Often pictures of apartments or businesses include people who happened to walk by at that moment. The line may have to do with the focus of the picture, but IANAL, so I would have to research that further.

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  2. Better maps? by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It'd be interesting to see how such a survey affects sites like MapQuest... as it'd be real useful to have the building you're drving to circled on a street-level picture when you're traveling in an unknown-to-you metro area.

  3. Re:(sigh) better go make sure the lawn is mowed. by Auckerman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Still, this would be a great way to find out who has lawn gnomes, plastic flamingos, and those fat-lady-bending-over things in their gardens.

    Funny, but you make a very good point. Should this database leak into the "wrong hands" that has access to a competent programmer, targeted robberies could increase. Cross correlations are you friend. Get enough RAM and find the neighborhoods with new sports cars and a little more research and in one night a crew can have at it. Who knew theft could be so efficient?

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  4. Cook County (Chicago) Already did this. by gillbates · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A year or so ago, Cook County officials sent a van around photographing every house and residential street in the county. They planned to offer the pictures on the internet, but I'm not sure how successful they were.

    And yes, it made the news and raised a lot of controversy, but in the end, Cook County told its critics they could shove it, and went ahead and did it anyway.

    I guess its just another case of "Can't fight City Hall"....

    Now, if a private citizen had attempted to do the same, you can bet they would have been arrested. And if someone tried to do it now, they'd get thrown in jail as a suspected terrorist.

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  5. Mignt need more vans. by Jammer@CMH · · Score: 4, Interesting
    From a quick and dirty search, there seems to be 3,936,246 miles of road in the US. At 45MPH, driving 12 hours a day, you have about 20 years to cover all of them.

    They may need more vans.

  6. Already Done in PA by SplendidIsolatn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In Allegheny County, PA, you can go to the county assessment website (http://www2.county.allegheny.pa.us/RealEstate/Sea rch.asp)
    and search on street name, address, OWNER, etc. In the information for most houses are also the pictures of said house. So this is nothing really new, at least around here.

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  7. Re:(sigh) better go make sure the lawn is mowed. by wwest4 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think many municipalities (including my own) already have a freely available, online database of home and landowners, complete with curbside photos. Other information is available in hard form, you need only to go to the town records repository and ask. This isn't really new.

    In my experience, thieves are generally pretty poor at what they do, though I'm sure there are a few adept ones. They do their "site surveys" on foot and take the most useless and worthless stuff. E.g. burglars stole my shitty stereo (w/o the faceplate), my cds and $20 binoculars, but they left a (very portable) $400 unicycle in the back seat. The parts could easily have been stripped and sold to BMXers for way more than the other stuff.

  8. Re:I'd love this if it were made public by bay43270 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Link it to map quest. Driving directions could be visual.

    Turn left here: [picture of the intersection]

    Render them together, and you could have a 3d rendering of the trip (made up of 2d images used as a textures). On star could send them to your heads-up-display (you have one, right?)

  9. Re:I'd love this if it were made public by El+Cabri · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Several French cities, including Paris, are available at www.pagesjaunes.fr (France Telecom's yellow pages). I used it to see the building in Bordeaux where my brother had found an appartment, and to check out the hospital where I was born according to my birth certificate, etc... fun.

    On the City of Paris' website http://www.paris.fr/FR/Environnement/bruit/carto_b ruit/default.ASP also gives you a 3d map of the amount of street noise received by each building. Useful before you buy an apartment.

  10. Re:Honestly? So what? by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Interesting
    If this helps the 911 guys find my house better in case of an emergency, good for them. If it never happens, they've got a picture of a blue house with tan trim. Someone please enlighten me as to how this could possibly be bad.

    Well, for starters, what happens when your house isn't blue anymore with tan trim...and the fire truck drives past your house? Given how much of a pain in the ass it is to do the photos, do they honestly intend to update the DB constantly?

    Out in western MA, they had a very easy solution to all this. The town gave out bright plastic signs with a picture of a fire truck and the street number of the house...and a little metal stake to hang it from. Instructions on where to place it relative to -your- driveway were given. This was done because many people don't have mailboxes(they have PO boxes in town), or they were confusingly located(ie across the street, at the end of a private driveway, etc).

    Works perfectly. This is just some urban idiot who doesn't understand that the problem's already been solved- just not everyone has chosen to implement it.

  11. Photo Maps for Women by Vegan+Pagan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I read a claim that when it comes to navigation, men's minds are more spacially oriented while women's minds are more landmark oriented. Thus, maps work better for men than for women.

    Women can make due with written directions, but what if there was a way to give directions by providing a photograph of every intersection from the 1st person, with the turns marked by arrows? Instead of memorizing street names or distances, you could just say "I'll turn when I see this, I'll turn when I see that..." You could be completely illiterate and still navigate. To make such a system possible, you'd have to photograph every intersection from every approach, at day and night, every season (which is frequent enough to account for new construction in most areas). It would be very labor intensive, but it would provide a very valuable service. Assuming illiterate, map-incompetent people have enough money to pay for it.

  12. I call bullshit! by endoboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    there are 2.27+ million miles of paved roads in the US, not to mention all the unpaved ones...

    First off, even at 30 miles per hour 24 hours a day, it'd take about 8 1/2 years to take the photos.

    Second, taking 50 pictures every fifteen feet comes to ~17 thousand pictures per mile. Even at a measly 1 megapixel each, that's 17gigs per mile. Multiply that by a couple million miles and I think you may have just a little storage and database problem....