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12GB CompactFlash Cards Coming Soon

Anonymous Photographer writes "As Digital Photography Review reports, Pretec will release a 12 Gigabyte CompactFlash card by the end of the year... for just $14,900. Of course, you could save $14,300 by purchasing three Creative Labs Nomad MuVo 4 GB MP3 players and removing the Hitachi 4 GB microdrives to get the same amount of CompactFlash storage. Heck, I'll do the CF removal for you, at the low price of only $10,000. Think of the money you'll save." And for those seeking a different sort of windfall, VL writes "With MuVo 2 shells going on the cheap now, now is as good a time as any to pick one up and installing your own Compact Flash card to get it running again."

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  1. Ummm by MikeXpop · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Except the ones in MP3 players are Compact Flash compatible hard drives, not flash drives.

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    1. Re:Ummm by aussersterne · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't know what distinction you're trying to draw, but the Hitachi Microdrive in a Muvo2 will run just fine in a Compact Flash digital camera and will provide you with 4GB of storage.

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    2. Re:Ummm by loyalsonofrutgers · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Read/Write speed.

    3. Re:Ummm by dfghjk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      and power consumption.

    4. Re:Ummm by spazoid12 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, that is a slight difference. So slight, who cares?

      So the guy skipped a step... you take the CF compatible drive and install it into a CF card. Not a big deal. That's the kind of literal-geek-talk that annoys people. Here's an example:

      Jim: My 302 is faster than your 351!
      Ned: No it's not! Your 302 isn't in a car!

      Blah blah blah

      As for the 3 cards versus 1 card? I suppose, somewhere, somebody wants to snap a single picture that is larger than 4GB. Lucky he can spend $15,000 to get that one picture.

      Even if the pictures he's recording are 1 byte over 4GB, that 12GB card would only afford him the ability to capture 2 at a time. That is awesome. I wonder if any CF-compatible camera even exists where this is a concern.

    5. Re:Ummm by EvanED · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "So the guy skipped a step... you take the CF compatible drive and install it into a CF card. Not a big deal."

      No, actually the difference is larger than that. The single 12 GB card is flash media; it's a solid state device. The three 4 GB microdrives are very small hard drives. There's the difference. The flash media would probably be more reliable as there are no moving parts to wear out/break, should read and write at a higher speed, and should consume less power.

    6. Re:Ummm by DrEldarion · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And moving parts.

  2. Who's gonna buy em? by Exiler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really, I know there are a few niche applications for that much space in compact flash, but where's the real market for these? Aren't most pros still using film, making the ammount of people willing to spend that much money on a CF card even smaller?

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    1. Re:Who's gonna buy em? by vadim_t · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, I'd love these to come down in price. Flash is *nice*.

      Here I'm going to try to set up a router with no moving parts at all. VIA motherboard with no CPU or power supply fans, no floppies, no CD drives (after install). Just a 512MB flash card in a CF-IDE adapter, with a small Debian install on it.

      That should be the first computer I have to be completely silent.

    2. Re:Who's gonna buy em? by Stevyn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Media photographers are going digital. When you're posting photos to a news paper or news website from the field it becomes a lot cheaper. The news photographers in Iraq use satellites to send the photos back. But 12gb? I don't know that's a lot. I'd shy away from it because then you can get lazy and not upload the pictures as often as you normally would and run the chance of losing them all.

      Keep in mind though, a few years ago 40gb of computer storage space seemed like too much. Storage has always had that. When new drives come out people say "who needs that?" but then later on it becomes "I need more!"

    3. Re:Who's gonna buy em? by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, you could have said "no CPU fans or power supply fans," among many other choices of varying awkwardness.

      Truth be told, however, I probably would have stated it exactly as you did. I was just kidding; ambiguity is a fact of life in all languages, and your intent was clear enough once I considered the context.

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  3. Microdrive vs. flash by aussersterne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Thing is, even though microdrives are rugged (I have several and have never had a problem with them), they are still filled with moving parts.

    A lot of pro photographers are in really tough assignment areas (i.e. war zones, etc.) with digital gear like Nikon or Canon's professional offerings... These cameras can run $4-8k easily and are ruggedized, waterproof, dustproof, etc. If you're going to be hopping through ditches and onto freight trucks and getting your gear submerged in mud and water every five minutes, there might be a distinct advantage to storage with no moving parts...

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  4. Hitachi drives not a viable option for pro photo by johnthorensen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There's a huge difference between Hitachi Microdrives and a quality CF card - speed! Professional Digital SLR cameras such as those made by Nikon and Canon are able to shoot very large frames at a pretty stiff frame rate. A professional photographer would quickly be frustrated at the time it takes to write such frames to a Microdrive, making them next to worthless.

    As for the 12GB capacity, I can also see these being used in the recent crop of micro-size digital video cameras.

    -JT

  5. Who? by NIK282000 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Who needs photos bigger then 3-5 mega-pixles? Any bigger and they cant be displayed on a monitor at full res. no printer can match the resolution and the files are bloody HUGE. Transfering 1gig pictures from a memeory card at any speed would still take ages. Some times its nice to know the tech is out there, but it has no practicle use.

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  6. Space program by SilentChris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Considering the space program essentially used flash memory to store just about everything on the Mars missions, I imagine they're a prime candidate. They'd have to wait for cards that are radiation and durability tested, which may take years.

    Hard drives are a liability in space: one more gizmo that can fall apart from vibration, not to mention dust. Flash memory is far more reliable.

  7. Holo cameras from Voyager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everybody thinks this is a waste of space. But just you wait until those Holo cameras the doc used on Voyager go on sale. Then we will see who thinks 12GB is too much. Same thing went for my 10GB Hard Drive I got several years ago....never thought I would need more space.

    The technology comes first, they we wait for it's applications. Same thing goes for that smelling device in an article earlier which seems pretty useless to most now.

  8. Expensive today... by nurb432 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But tomrrow it will be cheaper, and drive down the costs of smaller CF card..

    This is a good thing for all, even those that dont have the cash for a 12gb card...

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  9. Re:Speaking of Microdrives... by retrev · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A big downside to microdrives...there is a huge difference in transfer rates at different places on the disc. The outer surfaces are much slower to seek to..a friend had an early IBM md (512 mb or so) for his camera and noticed this....as the disc fills it takes a really long time to write images.

  10. Re:Price will come down. by torinth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I love geeks and gadget freaks. For the most part, you can be a great and successful professional photographer without relying on $100,000 of equipment. In fact, you can get away with about $4000 for a good camera, flash, lens, reflector, and some storage.

    Of course, if you like gadgets, there's a world of stuff out there for you. It's all too easy to turn the art of photography into a geek's paradise of analysis, formulas, and techniques. But I guess that kind of flexibility is just the beauty of the medium.

  11. Re:pros and digital by ennuiner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think you need to define what you mean by "pro." Certainly most photojournalists and news photographers are using high-end digital SLRs, but there are plenty of portrait photographers (above the level of a Sears Portrait Studio) still working with film-based medium-format cameras. And art photographers, which you may not regard as "pros," work with a variety of cameras, from crude pinhole cameras to expensive single-plate box cameras. Moreover, much art photography still involves chemical processes in the darkroom.

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  12. Re:Compact Flash hard drives.... by Digital11 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ain't gonna happen. Compact flash media has a limited number of times that it can be written. Using one as the main drive in a computer would chew it up. Just think about how often your HDD gets written to during normal computer usage. (mostly swapping/page files)

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