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12GB CompactFlash Cards Coming Soon

Anonymous Photographer writes "As Digital Photography Review reports, Pretec will release a 12 Gigabyte CompactFlash card by the end of the year... for just $14,900. Of course, you could save $14,300 by purchasing three Creative Labs Nomad MuVo 4 GB MP3 players and removing the Hitachi 4 GB microdrives to get the same amount of CompactFlash storage. Heck, I'll do the CF removal for you, at the low price of only $10,000. Think of the money you'll save." And for those seeking a different sort of windfall, VL writes "With MuVo 2 shells going on the cheap now, now is as good a time as any to pick one up and installing your own Compact Flash card to get it running again."

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  1. Bla Bla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Of course, you could save $14,300 by purchasing three Creative Labs Nomad MuVo 4 GB MP3 players and removing the Hitachi 4 GB microdrives to get the same amount of CompactFlash storage.

    Or of course you could also save $9,320 by buying three of their 4GB CF cards.

    Obviously the 12GB card is not targetted at folks who don't mind swapping their CF cards.

    What's amazing is how they are able to continuously increase the physical density at a rate that exceeds (= faster) than Moore's law. It will be interesting to see what happens to reliability figures.

  2. Re:Who's gonna buy em? by xmas2003 · · Score: 5, Informative
    I'd suggest that many (perhaps most) pro's have converted to Digital and the trend is increasing. Digicam's (eespecially pro ones) can generate a LOT of data VERY fast - I "had" to go over to a friend who had a Canon Mark II - this is a $4,000 8MP digicam that will shoot 8 frames/second ... with a frame burst of 40 frames ... in RAW mode. Lets just say it was REALLY cool to hold that shutter button down!

    Check out this interesting article on Sports Illustrated digital workflow to see how the pros do it and how much data was generated ... with the last generation of digicams!

    Having said all that, that is one heck of a price-premium for this 12 GByte card, so I'd take it as just a bleading edge product, but you'll continue to see larger/faster (BTW, faster is REALLY important to the pro's because you want to be able to drain the digicam memory buffer) cards coming down the pipe for cheaper ... and they will be used! ;-)

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  3. pros and digital by SuperBanana · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Aren't most pros still using film, making the ammount of people willing to spend that much money on a CF card even smaller?

    You are joking, right?

    Any pro who hasn't gone digital by now is pretty much out of business and never will be in business again. Customers vastly prefer digital in most cases. Pros who claim they're faster/better with film are outright lying to save their own skins; digital offers instant previewing of composition, exposure, and focus (btw, don't buy a digital camera without a histogram mode in the review function!) Even in the studio, medium format and large format digital backs (one such company is Leaf, another is Capture1) are getting more and more common, with astounding image quality. Given how much MF/LF film costs, studio photographers LOVE digital backs.

    When a 512MB card will hold 60+ 6+mp compressed RAW images (ie, straight from the CCD, no processing, far better than JPEG) and costs under $150, it pays for itself almost overnight...especially since you can't, with film, sit during a second or two's downtime and flip through what you've taken and blow away anything that's obviously not going to cut it. With film, you can't send the image across the world within minutes- with digital, it's pretty damn easy, as long as you have some internet connection (many photojournalist types have unlimited-transfer GSM phone accounts, just to be able to transfer images to the service bureau, although less time-sensitive stuff is done via fedex, either the CD-Rs or the memory cards themselves. Yes you can fedex film, but a)the photographer knows what's on it already, and b)within 10 seconds of it arriving via fedex you can be editing the images in photoshop- film, you've gotta wait at least an hour before you've got negatives).

    This 12GB card isn't for photographers, I can virtually guarantee- they won't buy it, ignoring the absurd pricing. Many don't use anything larger than 1GB cards, for the simple reason that they don't want to put all their eggs in one basket- if a card fails, gets lost, stepped on, or accidentally erased, well...I'd rather have that be 1/4 of my shoot than ALL of my shoot.

    1. Re:pros and digital by ennuiner · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think you need to define what you mean by "pro." Certainly most photojournalists and news photographers are using high-end digital SLRs, but there are plenty of portrait photographers (above the level of a Sears Portrait Studio) still working with film-based medium-format cameras. And art photographers, which you may not regard as "pros," work with a variety of cameras, from crude pinhole cameras to expensive single-plate box cameras. Moreover, much art photography still involves chemical processes in the darkroom.

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  4. Re:Who? by iminplaya · · Score: 5, Funny

    Transfering 1gig pictures from a memeory card at any speed would still take ages.

    It most certainly would. I took an uncompressed picture with a friend's 5 megapixel cameral. The resulting picture took a full 30 seconds(!) just to put onto the card inside the camera. And it was only 14 megabytes. I think the "Flinstones" camera with the bird inside chiseling out the picture was faster.

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  5. Re:Ummm by EvanED · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "So the guy skipped a step... you take the CF compatible drive and install it into a CF card. Not a big deal."

    No, actually the difference is larger than that. The single 12 GB card is flash media; it's a solid state device. The three 4 GB microdrives are very small hard drives. There's the difference. The flash media would probably be more reliable as there are no moving parts to wear out/break, should read and write at a higher speed, and should consume less power.

  6. Not any more )-: by leonbrooks · · Score: 5, Informative
    The newer MuVo comes in a blister pack instead of a tube and includes a sticker warning you that the drive will not work in cameras. The newer MuVo player's drive has had CF capability excised, but it works fine as an IDE hard drive. This means that many of the "unloaders" can use it, but a typical camera can't.

    I wonder which Creative marketing mor^H^H^Hgenius thought up this response? And how long before we see these?
    • camera firmware which can use the drives in IDE mode; and
    • Creative selling "spare" MuVo drives at 90% of the price of a player
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  7. The latest MuVo2 Hitachi Microdrives DO NOT work. by larryg · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...as CF devices - they are ATA only disks as of this point folks.

    Not a rumor...I received two of the new-spec units on Friday.

    For those that didn't get one of the "tube-packed" models, you are S-O-L (that would include me, unfortunately).

    New-style packaging, with a close up of the Creative disclaimer on the back:

    http://www.digitalfields.com/movo2-cases.jpg
    http://www.digitalfields.com/muvo2-close.jpg