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FCC Move Could Shut Down High School Radio Station

Saeed al-Sahaf writes "This probably has been happening all along, maybe just not in my area. A broadcasting company bought an FM radio station in The Dalles, Oregon (a little hick town east of Portland), and wants to move it to a much choicer market in Seattle, Washington. The FCC has given the green light for the move. Problem is, the frequency in Seattle is being used by a station owned by a local high school, Mercer Island High School. The school has appealed, saying the decision ignores the FCC's own rules, and questioned the FCC's assertion that there's space available elsewhere on the Seattle-area radio dial. The school says the proposal is 'little more than an effort to migrate from a rural community to an extremely well-served urban area.' Critics of the proposal contend that the move is an attempt to tap the much larger Seattle radio advertising market."

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  1. Not an unusual request... by LostCluster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Trying to relocate a radio station such that it better covers a major metro area rather than covering the subberbs on the fringe of the city is a regular event in the radio biz. The FCC originally wanted to hand out radio allocations so that small communities had stations all to themselves, but this policy has more or less outlived its usefulness as small town ad markets simply just don't exist. A station needs to be either allowed to play ball in its nearby major market, or it most likely is being rented out or sold to a 24/7 national interest which doesn't serve the small market very well anyway.

    1. Re:Not an unusual request... by Detritus · · Score: 5, Insightful
      If the station received its license on the basis of its promise to serve Fooville, why should it be allowed to move to a nearby major market? If it can't comply with the terms of its license, it can return it to the FCC. Maybe another broadcaster, who didn't pay an inflated price for an existing station, can build and operate a profitable station in Fooville.

      I've seen this sort of thing happen several times in my local area. A big conglomerate buys a small station outside a major market for big bucks, and immediately applies to move the station to a more profitable location inside the major market. They never had any intentions of continuing to serve the community that the license was originally issued for. They just see an opportunity to gain an outlet in the major market.

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  2. Space on the dial? by EvanED · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "...and questioned the FCC's assertion that there's space available elsewhere on the Seattle-area radio dial"

    If there's space elsewhere on the radio dial, why doesn't the other station take it?

    1. Re:Space on the dial? by irokitt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Which station? According to the article, the school changed from the lower end of the dial (where most public/community radio stays) to 104.5 because the FCC told it to (in the early 90s). Supposedly they could change it back, but the FCC would have to approve, and that's provided the lower band isn't already saturated. Of course, the station that is new to the area should be the one to change frequency, because making the school change frequencies can confuse/drive away customers. The station that is moving to Seattle will be new to the locals no matter what the frequency, so it doesn't suffer a disadvantage by accepting a different frequency.

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  3. The school missed its chance to protect the slot! by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Class D stations are hanging on by a grandfather clause at this point. The FCC is handing out no more new Class D allocations, and all Class D stations have been demoted in status such that if any higher-class stations (which include all commercial stations, since Class D's are by definition non-commercial) gets an allocation that interferes with them, the Class D must cease operations.

    In short, Class D is in a phase-out period... stations in the Class D status need to get themselves moved into the dedicated educational slice of the FM band from 88.1 to 91.9, or convert their license to being LPFM station (possibly with lower power than they had before) in order to regain primary status so that nobody else can stomp on their turf.

    This poor high school hasn't acted, and now the bulldozer of several stations re-aligining themselves on "their frequency" is coming in to knock them down. Sure, changing frequencies or converting to LPFM isn't a free thing to do, but it was part of their obligations as a broadcaster to keep up with the changes in the FM band. They did nothing, and if they can't afford to get themselves onto a safe channel then that's there problem. They clearly had a chance to do so when LPFM came out, and they passed...

  4. My Rights Online by Kohath · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Whatever decision is eventually made in this dispute, I hope it protects "my rights online" -- somehow.

    It would be bad if my rights were somehow jeopardized by some high-school vs. commercial radio station dispute in distant Washington state. Bad indeed.

    1. Re:My Rights Online by jb.hl.com · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It would be bad if my rights were somehow jeopardized by some high-school vs. commercial radio station dispute in distant Washington state. Bad indeed.

      Don't you get it?

      The point is that the FCC is letting large corporations control the airwaves to the detriment of the public (i.e schools). They are prioritising the big and wealthy over the little guy. It doesn't affect your rights online, but holy fuck does it affect your rights.

      Put it this way: say that a large corporation wanted your domain name, which coincides with the name for one of their new products. Also say that your web host willingly handed the domain over to them, without giving you a say in the matter. You'd be crying "OMGWTF THE HOSTS TOOK AWAY MY NAME AND GAVE IT TO PROCTER AND GAMBLE!!!111". I think you'd have a right to be pissed then. Same thing here.

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    2. Re:My Rights Online by jb.hl.com · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I guess you have to hate corporations a lot to "get it". Hate isn't really my thing.

      Once again, you missed the clue train. Time for a repeat pickup...

      IT ISN'T ABOUT HATING CORPORATIONS. I don't hate corporations as a concept (I hate some corporations: AOL, Gat^H^H^HClaria, News Corp, Daily Mail) as a lot of corporations have given the world great shit. What it is about is prioritising those with plenty of sway and cash to back it up over those who have less money which can **HINT** be donated to certain parties which **HINT** employ someone who is the father of **HINT** the chairman of the FCC. It's also symbolic: it's David vs Goliath, but this time Goliath has some kickass ninjas and a few other Goliaths on his side too. End result: David gets squashed.

      Sorry if that turned ranty :)

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    3. Re:My Rights Online by __aanebg9627 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It isn't about hating corporations, it *is* about the danger of graft and corruption, and that those with money can unfairly change the rules our democracy lives by in order to gain power and more money.

      That kind of thing can (and has) lead to tyranny and the end of a republic when it is allowed to spread unchecked. Don't belive me? Read Rubicon by Tom Holland for a "case study".

    4. Re:My Rights Online by __aanebg9627 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's that the rules of governance should apply to all of us fairly, and that money should not corrupt the process. The slide from republic into tyranny happens when the citizens do not fight those things, and the elites use them to increase their power. What's so hard to understand about that?

  5. The best for the public by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The FCC and most federal agencies work on the opinion that the largest income intake from licensing and taxation is the best way to serve the public. Sadly this only benifits the largest markets eliminates any minority services and ends with a homoginized beaurocracy controled competetive monopoly market.

  6. Re:high school channel? by gui_tarzan2000 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It doesn't matter how interesting the high school radio station is. What matters is that the students are learning the trade. My high school (I graduated in 1981) has had a broadcasting station for about 30 years. It has helped many students interested in radio and tv production and the local community which also houses Central Michigan University. Not exactly a small market although nothing like NY or LA.

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  7. Bad yes, Clear Channel no by lothar97 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The station that is moving is owned by Mid-Columbia Broadcasting Inc. It looks like that Mid-Columbia only has 1 station, and 10 employees- so it's a pretty small fish compared to Clear Channel.

    Here is San Diego, we're lucky that Clear Channel can own stations in San Diego, and in Tijuana, Mexico (right across the border). We thus get double the Clear Channel, and yes, our radio sucks more than most cities.

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  8. Re:The school missed its chance to protect the slo by gad_zuki! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    >Seriously, there's nothing else to be said after this post.

    Oh please. The post does not go into why the Class D change happened, who is serves, why community radio is being killed in favor of commercial radio, etc.

    Last I checked, the people owned the airwaves and the little slice they had for colleges and highschools is being systematically being pull-out in favor of more clear channel crap.

    Secondly, if you read the article you'll see the FCC asked them to move to 104.something. If the FCC didn't ask them to move, they wouldn't be having this problem.

    LPFM is largely a joke and its too late to get licenses now. A LPFM station covers a few blocks at best, especially if there are any tall buildings.

    As far as the "keeping up with the changes" comment goes, well its important to ask why and understand such changes. What if your city aldermen or state legislature decided the land you live on is too close to the freeway and the Walmart people should have it? Would you and the grandparent be quick to defend a change of law without asking the ethical questions involved? Or is it "that's the law, shut up" all the way?

    FCC is not above criticism, especially when its run by Michael Powell and the GOP.

  9. Re:This is hypocritical but.... by sindarin2001 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hate to be a jerk, but just because you don't like their musical selection doesn't mean they should have to give up their frequency. I'm not arguing either side of the fence in this discussion, but by no means should personal preference in musical choice be used as a consideration of whether this station should give up it's piece of the spectrum. Also, regardless of where the station is, they should have a fair chance in the system.

  10. Strange how this quote just fits the topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "Do you ever get the feeling that everything in America is completely fucked up?" - Hard Harry, Pump Up The Volume

  11. The FCC and Mercer Island (the Rock) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First they want to move the station in question a full state, from Oregon north several hundred miles to Seattle. I could possibly see moving it to Portland, but this is a real streach.

    Next, if the high schoolers really want to fight, all they have to do is to talk to their parents. Mercer Island, is located in the middle of Lake Washington and the residents are VERY well off. Paul Allen lives on the island as do a lot of the Microsoft millionairs. Bill Gates lives just north of the island. Quite a few Boeing executives in addition to at least one Senator for Washington (if I remember correctly). If they want, they (the school) have the connections to steam roll the station and make an example of them. Given that its the end of the shcool year with exams, now is the perfect time for this move on the station's part in the student body is out for the summer.

    Housing prices start around a million for a modest home....

  12. Educational stations gave birth to radio by dpbsmith · · Score: 2, Insightful

    just as with the Internet, it was the efforts of educational institutions that pioneered and gave birth to radio as we know it in the late 1920s and early 1930s. The communications act of 1934 was essentially a giveaway to commercial interests, but it did, however, state that the airwaves belong to the public--a commons, if you will, and it did, as part of the compromise, carve out some of the spectrum for educational broadcasting and create special educational licensing.

    The commercial interests basically got their way. It is a crying shame that they can't be content with what they have and that they, and the FCC, are now pushing around little educational stations and generally acting as if the airwaves were private property.

  13. But who is going to pay for the upgrade? by Bishop · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Software defined digital radio is great. But who is going to pay to upgrade all the existing radios? Some stations are useing the same hardware they started with 50 years ago. The stations will probably continue to use that gear for another 50. An AM reciever has maybe as much as 50 cents worth of electronics in it. A FM reciever costs another 25 cents. Can a digital radio be made that cheaply?

    Reed (RTFA) may be correct about the technology, but in my view he is naive about the economics.

  14. Re:The school missed its chance to protect the slo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    Did you ever stop and think why Clear Channel is succesful? Maybe it's because people listen to their stations.

    Or maybe it's because their cost structure is better. Once syndicated talk-host broadcast across the whole country is far cheaper than one per small-town across mid-america.

    There's an enormous economy-of-scale in Radio; and just becasue a station is cheaper doesn't mean it's better for listeners.

    Oh the otherhand it _does_ mean it's better equiped to buy expensive spectrum.