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60GB iPod Coming?

An anonymous reader writes "Toshiba today announced that it will offer a 60GB version of its 1.8-inch hard drive in the coming months and that Apple has already placed its order. Cindy Lee, deputy manager of Toshiba's hard disk drive division, said the drive will enter mass production during July or August. All three iPod models (15GB, 20GB, and 40GB) use Toshiba drives, while the iPod mini uses a 4GB 1-inch drive from Hitachi. Lee noted that Toshiba is currently shipping 350,000 of the 1.8-inch drives per month to Apple."

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  1. Re:Too much space! by stev3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My 3g 30gb iPod is already full, and I'd love to be able to rip most of my music into Apple Lossless and use it on the new 60gb iPod!

    Just because you don't have that much music doesn't mean other people don't.

  2. Re:Enough is Enough by niko9 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Do you listen to 3:05 minute pop songs? I don't. I have a alllot of classical music I would love to take with me. They take up alot of space.

  3. Drives? by TheOtherKiwi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Anyone notice that "Lee noted that Toshiba is currently shipping 350,000" but Apple are stepping up production from 800,000 to 1,000,000 per month...where are all the other drives sourced from?

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  4. Re:Too much space! by rattler14 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Easy (my 30 gig Ipod is full)

    -17 gig songs (granted, a 4000+ collection is fairly rare... and i could go to 128 instead of 160)

    -Encrypted backup disk images of
    digital pictures of friends, family, myself
    backup documents from all my classes
    family guy episodes

    -Standard apple iSync stuff (very small, mind you)
    contacts, address book, iCal, etc

    I have about 3 gigs free right now (not COMPLETELY full, but close). Bear in mind, my music collection continues to grow, and I have stuff from my office that would be nice to have another backup in my pocket... just in case.

    So absurd? probably. But if i didn't have an iPod and was given a choice between a 20,40, and 60... i might still jump for the 60. Always better to have room to grow.

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  5. Pricing by maelstrom · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So is Apple ever going to drop the pricing on the other models when they come out with more "advanced" ones?

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  6. more than music by johnpaul191 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    first, there are a lot of people with more than 40 gigs of music.... second, the iPod is also a firewire drive. it can be used for transporting large files (graphics, audio, video, whatever). it is also possible to boot off of OS X installed on the iPod, so you can dump your whole HD on there. The early lists of 10.3 features mentioned a feature called "home on iPod" that later vanished. it seemed you could copy/sync your whole home dir onto your ipod and login to it from any OS X running Mac. if that's really coming, the more space for music AND home dir, the better.

  7. Here we go again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lets get this out of the way:

    1. 60GB?!? Who would ever use that much space?
    2. 60GB?!? Thank god, I'm out of space on my 40GB.
    3. Does it support Ogg?
    4. Stop whining about Ogg!
    5. Apple rules!
    6. Apple sucks/is dying/is out of touch!
    7. Imagine a Beowulf cluster...
    8. The Nomad/Muvo/two cans and a stick are just as good or better.
    9. I, for one, welcome our excessive HD space Overlords
    10. In Soviet Russia 60GB iPods buy You!

    1. Re:Here we go again... by BodyCount07 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't forget:

      11. I don't have ears, you insensitive clod!

    2. Re:Here we go again... by .com+b4+.storm · · Score: 5, Funny

      11. Let's get this out of the way...

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  8. Re:Enough is Enough by aixou · · Score: 5, Funny
    128kbps MP3 files ripped in 1999

    Ahh, good ol napster.

  9. Re:iPod and UFS by MisterP · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think you need to do some homework.

    Just because a linux kernel can read UFS doesn't mean it's GPL'd. Almost any unix including commercial ones like Solaris can use UFS. In fact it is the default filesystem used by Solaris. Nowhere does Sun distribute the source to their UFS implementation.

    And then there is this:

    $ uname -a
    FreeBSD xxxx.xxx 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE
    $ pwd /usr/src/sys/ufs
    $ grep -ir GPL ./*
    $

    So are the BSD guys violating too? Not likely.

  10. Re:Too much space! by CaptainFrito · · Score: 5, Funny
    What's next? an 80G iPod?!?

    Next thing you know cops will pull you over just to scan through your iPod's storehouse looking for pirated music. No doubt someone will die choking on the iPod he frantically tried to swallow...

  11. Now that's Paranoia! by mbessey · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Encrypted backup disk images of digital pictures of friends, family, myself"

    Wow. What kinda tinfoil-beanie wearing nutjob do you have to be to encrypt your family photos? Who're your family, the Sopranos or the Bin Ladens?

  12. Re:60GB on the go??? by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you have that much music available, I would think you have something like $10,000 worth of CDs.

    A $500 iPod is pocket change.

    Cheap insurance, especially if you keep your CDs in a safety deposit box :)

  13. Re:Enough is Enough by localman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because you hopefully have better things to do than to rerip your whole CD collection for an improvement so small you can't possibly notice it while listenting through consumer headphones with your computer on in the background?

    But I shouldn't talk. I'm actually considering the same thing since I don't have anything better to do :)

    Cheers.

  14. Re:iPod and UFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    What we don't know is that the file system that the iPod uses is UFS, a file system that Linux can read. How did I discover this? I removed the hard drive out of my iPod, hooked it up to my IDE controller, and typed

    mount -t ufs /dev/hdb /mnt


    here's a fantastic idea,
    instead of removing the hdd from your ipod and potentially voiding your warranty say y or m to;
    "CONFIG_SCSI", "CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD", "CONFIG_IEEE1394", "CONFIG_IEEE1394_SBP2"
    reboot with your new kernel (or modprobe the modules) connect your ipod and mount as you did before (except it will appear as a scsi disk)
  15. Re:60GB... but anything else? by nfotxn · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Apple more narrowly designs their products for a variety of reasons. Most people don't have any need for a portable encoding mp3 jukebox with optical IO as the world is mostly made up of non-geeks. Also remember that the iPod is almost a direct conduit to the iTMS (which we still don't have in Canada). So incorporating an FM tuner and on board encoding isn't in their best interest.

    As for the "hipster image", well, that's marketing and it's how they sell iPods. Most slashdotters may see it as disappointing that successful products aren't sold on specs. But the dominant group of consumers don't care. They'd much rather have something that's well culturally regarded ("hip") that they can figure out and utilize without too much effort. This is what Apple does and that's why they're so successful with this product. Also be glad that you can get what you want in the iHP 120. But it's unreasonable to expect Apple to market directly to a niche like geeks with the iPod.

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  16. Re:Too much space! by Incongruity · · Score: 5, Insightful
    you could at least use the space to save backups of all your vital files so, should your house burn while you're out biking around you'll have a remote backup that survives.

    While I had thought about this, I realized that my iPod is also the bit of storage that I own most likely to be stolen. Having my critical files (i.e. financial records, tax returns, address books, etc.) on a device that has a (relatively) high likelyhood of being lost or stolen seems like a very bad idea.

  17. Lossless is a waste of space on iPods by CaptainCheese · · Score: 5, Interesting

    your plan has merits, but one colossal drawback.

    The iPod's most serious drawback is its battery life. The biggest power drain on the iPod is when it spins up the HD to load new files. Encoding all your music into a lossless format will cause it to access the HD multiple times for each song, in most cases.

    Therefore filling your ipod with losslessly encoded files and then playing them will flatten the battery at a very fast pace indeed.

    The best use of 60gig iPod drive is to use it to store other large files - avi files for example...

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  18. Re:You mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sexy, yeah. Sexy like Steve Ballmer.

  19. Re:Woohoo! by tm2b · · Score: 5, Interesting
    With that amount of music why don't you just put a computer in your plane? Won't have to worry about harddrive space then.
    Funny you should ask...

    That would be very cool, but FAA rules are kind of strange about this sort of thing. If a device is defined to be portable, it's the PIC's (Pilot In Command's) judgment as to whether it can be used in the cockpit safely without interfering with the airworthiness of the aircraft.

    On the other hand, if it's a fixed installation, there's a ton of paperwork and bureacracy that has to be gone through in order to get FAA approval and navigating it correctly is neither quick nor cheap.

    Worse than that, but as a mere pilot, I'm not authorized to do more than minor cosmetic and maintenance tasks on my airplane - I need somebody certified by the FAA to work on avionics in order to work on my panel. And they do not work cheap.

    On top of all that, I do want to be able to take my music library with me in the car too, so portable is preferable to me anyway.
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  20. Re:"ALLLOT" IS NOT A WORD! by brodin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Jeez, what a looser. Irregardless of this I noticed that Windows embiggens all the virii on my boxen.

  21. Re:60GB... but anything else? by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 5, Insightful
    And that, my friend, is the stupidest thing anyone said this week

    What exactly is stupid about it? Players with DRM, such as the iPod, and the Creative players, can play files without DRM. Players without DRM, on the other hand, cannot play files with DRM (without hacking or kludging).

    Hence, the players with DRM provide the most flexibility.

  22. Re:"ALLLOT" IS NOT A WORD! by vomission · · Score: 5, Informative

    In spite of your errant pedantry, some of your points are plainly wrong.

    irregadless is most definitely a word. The OED, Webster's, and the American Heritage Dictionary all contain it as a listed item. (While all "words" are not necessarily listed, all listed items are necessarily words.) It's got nearly a century of documented history. Its usage may be discouraged, but it is nevertheless a word.

    virii actually IS a word, however sad this fact may be. Its use is restricted to very specific groups, which qualifies it as part of a specific linguistic register (sort of like a dialect within a social subgroup of a population). So, "virii" is the plural of "virus" in and only in the context of computer viruses being discussed by the sorts of people who think writing them is a good way to spend an afternoon and their ilk. (You may find the discussion of plurals of virus in English & Latin to be found here of some interest. But these facts about what ought to be the correct plural according to English & Latin morphological rules do not discount the fact that "virii" entered one register of the English language via a route that "smacks of pseudo-pedantry.")

    And, saddest of all, though this day has not yet come, alot will one day be a grammatical word in the English langauge. Words like "altogether", "instead", "nonetheless", "amiss", "already", and "alright" (the last of which is still in the process of gaining acceptance), all attest to the process by which words that frequently collocate coalesce into new words. Thankfully, we'll probably all be dead before "alot" becomes kosher in formal writing.

  23. Pah! 60 GB? That's nothing. MS xPod will top it! by michaeldot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft's xPod will have 600 GB! It will go for 8 months on a single charge, and cost less than $50.

    Hell, we may even give them away in cereal packets!

    Please wait for it and don't go buying one of those silly white iPods. Our xPod will be black. Black is cool! It will run super-DRM, hyper-product activated music in the form of the industry standard (it's a STANDARD okay... or else) WMA, which is what everyone wants, in the sense of "here's where you're going today" kind of wants.

    And no, there is no truth that WMA stands for "We May Ask for your first child." Who do you think we are, bloodsucking vampires or something. (Looks like we'll have to start using smaller print on the EULAs.)

    Oh please please please wait for the Microsoft xPod. I wanna be just like you Steve. I've even started to wear turtlenecks and say "phenomenal" all the time... We wants it, the precious.