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The Future of RPN Calculators

Noksagt writes "HP's recent release of the 33s won't be the last RPN calculator. Former HPers at Hydrix are hyping an impressive Linux-based PDA/calculator, named Qonos. They have a survey up regarding features, etc. More information can be found at comp.sys.hp48 or The Museum of HP Calculators. A new open hardware project called OpenRPN has also begun. Their mission is to produce horizontal and vertical format scientific RPN calcs and later a graphing calc."

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  1. Re:The future of RPN calculators... by capt.Hij · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You are probaly right which is a shame. When I was just a lad everybody used hp calculators with rpn. In our calculus class I do not remember anyone having a problem with the chain rule. The idea of a composite function was almost inate partly because of the way you enter equations into an rpn calculator.

    I teach calculus to students who use the TI, and so many more students just do not get the chain rule. It is amazing. Moreover, it is damn near impossible to try to connect the idea to the way they think about functions and the way they key them into the calculator. The tools we use really can constrain the way we think, and rpn calculators really make you back up and rethink what a function is.

  2. Integration in PDA/Calculator by beatleadam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the OpenRPN Project Website
    Here is a short list of some planned features:
    *Philips LMC210x ARM7 CPU
    *Flashable ROM
    *MMC/SD expansion card support
    *20 digit accuracy
    *USB connectivity
    *Several forms of I/O
    *3"x5" PCB for internal expansions/modules
    *Hi-Resolution LCDs
    *All aluminum watertight body
    *Molded-through keytops (customized sets will come standard)
    *High-durability anodized finish
    *Customizable keyboard overlays
    *Positive tactile keys
    *Reverse RPL compatability
    *A nice thick manual

    This sounds just like the PDA I would Love to have which is of course the point here.

    My single question is one of integration in that I do not want to carry a full-featured Calculator and a PDA I just want the PDA itself yet with this awesome calculator function integrated. Where does the line exist anymore between PDAs and Calculators especially Linux powered devices?

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    I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. -- Hunter S. Thompson
  3. My $2E-2 by eaolson · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm a scientist, and I use my HP 32S daily. I probably couldn't function without it. It's RPN, doesn't graph anything, and has fairly limited memory and programming abilities. But I like it. I have to say that I hate the idea of this calculator/PDA thing.

    I don't want my calculator to be my PDA. I have a PDA for that. They're different devices with different interfaces and should be used for different things. I put an RPN calculator on my Palm and, although I can use it, it's awkward and clunky. I use it only when I have no other choice.

    I don't want a graphing calculator. I like my one line of text. If I need to graph anything, then I'm probably doing it for a complicated reason, and I'll fire up Matlab or Origin at my desktop. My calculator is for, just that, calculating.

    The website brags that this thing has a whole month of battery life in it's low-power mode. Big fricking deal. I bought my HP in about 1990. I have replaced the batteries in it exactly ONCE. There's nothing more useless than a calculator that you've picked up and realized you forgot to plug it in last night to recharge it, and it's dead.

    I don't want a fold-out keyboard that's probably fairly fragile and won't last too long. I want something sturdy that will stand up to significant, continuous use for years to come.

    Why can't someone just build a good calculator that does what it's supposed to, and not some calculator / PDA / laptop / Borg monstrosity?

  4. Re:My survey response by ChuckleBug · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People just freak out over RPN for no reason. I taught several college friends, none of whom were math wizards, about the joys of RPN and every one of them became hooked. RPN just seems backwards because everything is fed to us in a linear, "algebraic" way. But the fact is, RPN is actually much more intuitive once you get past the initial "wall." With RPN, you do calculations the way you would with a pencil and paper - or in your head: Break the problem into chunks so you get intermediate values, then operate on those intermediate values, and so on until you're done.

    Just starting at the left and working your way to the right, all the while keeping track of parentheses is NOT intuitive. It's just familiar.