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You've Got Mail -- Tons Of It

Daniel Goldman writes "The Baltimore Sun has an article about the City of Baltimore's email problem." A snippet: "Millions of old e-mail messages are clogging Baltimore's municipal computers, so the city is going to start automatically deleting any messages older than 90 days. A common practice in private business, the move raises questions when made by a municipality, which has a responsibility to retain certain public records." Goldman points out "Just think about all the potential law suits; 'if it's not there, they can't subpoena it.'"

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  1. IMHO this sounds perfectly reasonable by Richard_L_James · · Score: 5, Insightful
    You wouldn't expect a public office to hang onto every piece of paper, so why should they be expected to hang onto every email they have ever received?

    There are always going to be things like replies to an original question and subsequent follow up questions going back and forth, so normally hanging onto the latest/final reply would be sufficient (providing it had the previous history - clearly showed the conclusion).

    Now if they were to use this as an excuse to accidently lose records that would be a different matter. This however is where auditors should be playing a role to ensure that they are keeping the right records and discarding the rubbish.

  2. incremental backup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Baltimore officials, who approved the new e-mail policy at a Board of Estimates meeting last month, say they have no choice but to delete old messages, which are slowing city computers to a crawl. They say the system is so overburdened that creating a daily backup has become impossible; there is so much data that it takes more than 24 hours to copy it."

    What?!? What's wrong with an incremental backup? Surely all those millions of messages aren't *changing* every day?!?

    Think of all the children that will suffer from this!!!

  3. wrong approach by yppiz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This has to be the stupidest approach to the problem. Their networks are too slow, so instead, they're going to have each employee go through their old email and save individually important messages to their local hard disk? Not only are they going to tie up employees with this manual effort, they're also going to lose key documents and a key service - the ability to centrally search and reply to requests for information. In the future, each department will have to search their local hard drives for this information.

    They've taken a simple problem of old or improperly speced equipment and turned it into a manual labor solution instead. That's an insane waste of time and salary. They should just upgrade their network and storage. If I can build a 4 terabyte RAIDed PC for a few thousand dollars, they can centralize their mailserver and back it up for say a hundred thousand, even with extra redundancy and inefficiencies and admin costs.

    By contrast, forcing every current employee to perform a task that would eat up weeks of time per employee per year, in a city of Baltimore's size, will cost tens of millions of dollars.

    Dumb, dumb, dumb.

    --Pat / zippy@cs.brandeis.edu

  4. Temporary Fix by Rie+Beam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Backup all e-mails from the last 4½ years into permanent storage, and then from there, get organized. Put spam filters on, force people to sort any important mail or else it gets deleted after, say, two weeks. People always seem to want to "start from scratch". without looking at the situation rationally. Five years of documents, gone overnight. How can anyone not be at least outraged by that?

  5. Re:Bayesian Filter to Identify Officail Mail by Kenja · · Score: 5, Insightful

    because even one false positive can get them in trouble?

    --

    "Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
  6. Removing old messages isn't the best option by crimoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A better option would be to archive old messages rather than remove them entirely. From the article it sounds like they are keeping ALL messages active all the time. For example:

    "They say the system is so overburdened that creating a daily backup has become impossible; there is so much data that it takes more than 24 hours to copy it."

    So, it seems like the solution would be to periodically lop off old messages to offline storage (tape, spare drives, whatever). In the event of a lawsuit the old messages could be reasonably recovered and the cost for such a system would be extremely minimal.