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Apple Previewing New Power Mac?

dunric writes "CNET.com reports that Apple Computer may be previewing a new Power Mac, complete with dual G5 processors and a more advanced memory configuration." The "previewing" isn't intentional, though -- the report is based on service and repair documents distributed last month and reported on AppleInsider.com. AppleInsider has taken down at least one image from their report, but have added an artist's rendering.

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  1. Old News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apple Insider, Mac Rumors and a bunch of other sites have been reporting this for at least a week.

  2. Big heatsink by Fiz+Ocelot · · Score: 4, Informative

    There seems to be either a huge heatsink or some kind of cover over it in this image Here looks cool.

    1. Re:Big heatsink by peragrin · · Score: 4, Informative

      No IBm wasn't at a brick wall, they just had probelms in the actual manufactoring processes. They were losing a large amount of chips due to defects. Those have been worked out a for a couple of months now.

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  3. Missing picture by polyp2000 · · Score: 5, Informative

    This may be the picture you are looking for...
    New G5 Picture

    nick ...

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  4. Hey by Ikn · · Score: 5, Informative

    Go to Wired and check out their Cult of Mac blog, and I think get have some pics/more info on this.

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  5. Re:apple is overated by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 2, Informative
    i built a p4 2.6ghz rdram machine


    And how about the other 90% of the population who cannot do that?

    People pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for Ferraris and Lamborghinis too you know.
  6. What I found most interesting by foidulus · · Score: 4, Informative

    Is that the rumor is that the next "generation" of the G5 will be all duals. This definitely puts a kink in my plans to buy a dual 1.8, esp. since Apple tends to keep the same prices but bumps up the specs when they make new releases(and doesn't sell the old stuff anymore), and since I am a student, it seems the best deal is to buy off apple themselves(through the $99 student developer program you can get 1 hardware purchase at about 20% off, more than pays for itself even against the normal student discount)

    1. Re:What I found most interesting by CubeDude213 · · Score: 3, Informative

      At Apple's online store, under the Special Deals section(scroll down at store.apple.com and its on the left hand side) they often sell old stuff. I just bought a Powerbook through that. I'd post a direct link but Apple's store is session-based.

  7. Re:Oh boy! by Durandal64 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yeah, they shrunk the motherboard, reworked the cooling system and added more space for drives inside. From an engineering standpoint, that is a big deal.

  8. Flashback by douthat · · Score: 5, Informative

    June 23, 2003

    visit http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/wwdc03/ and fast forward to 1:51:50

    "We're at 2GHz today. IBM and Apple are today announcing that within 12 months that we'll be at 3GHz. 3GHz processor clock. That's up 50% within 12 months. And so, believe me, this architecture has legs."

    Some people dispute what Jobs meant when he said that. At best, it could mean new 3GHz G5 PowerMacs by late June. Or at worst, it could mean that IBM will release a 3GHz G5 Processor by August 2004, since the G5 PowerMac was slated to ship in August of 2003.

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  9. Re:Only apple... by sensate_mass · · Score: 5, Informative

    Because the pictures show a smaller motherboard, which indicates:

    A) that the G5 processors used will almost certainly be of the .9 fab process variety, and

    B) that there will be room in the case for an additional 2 hard drives, the lack of which space was a big complaint about the Rev. A models.

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  10. Re:apple is overated by ameoba · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm not going to argue that you can't build a PC for less than a low-end G5 but $500 for a system like that? You're going to drop near $500 for the CPU, motherboard & drive, and that doesn't even get into the cost of things like RAM, a case or a video card.

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  11. Re:Parts and prices.... by jwthompson2 · · Score: 2, Informative

    No OS, no other software...not SCSI as mentioned by the original poster....Yet my Mac came with twice as much hard drive, Wireless Net card, Gigabit Ethernet, Dual Head Vid Card, plus a solid Unix based operating system, iPhoto (matched by some built-in Windows features), iTunes (matched by Windows Media), iMovie & iDVD (matched by Movie Maker? HA!), iCal (not matched on stock Windows system), AND now would come with GrageBand (no match on stock Windows system)...but then again this list doesn't include any software, nor a keyboard or mouse (optical) as included with every PowerMac...Both mac and windows are good for abought anything you want to do, sure macs are more expensive, but you do get a decent amount of features out of the box....PLUS, I can pretty easily install any Open Source app with minimal reconfiguration being OS X is a BSD system...

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  12. Re:Only apple... by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Informative
    Some of Apple's cool technology:
    • Quartz 3d, display PDF
    • UNIX with a cohesive, integrated interface
    • G5 processor (yes, I know IBM made it, but Apple is the only company using it in a desktop)
    • PCI-X, Firewire, etc.
    Also, whether their cases are attractive or not, they are functional. Consider the G5's case, with the fold-down side panel, and the elaborate noise-reduction technology (which could also be listed above).
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  13. Re:comparison Athlon64, G5 by Genady · · Score: 2, Informative

    Funny, I priced out and got a G5 1.6 GHz with 512 MB and no superdrive for about $1300. Granted that's Edu pricing, but I got the OS, iLife, and firewire in the bargain. Yeah, they're more expensive, quality products are. They aren't mind-blowingly more expensive.

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  14. Re:Scroll lock is used in Excell by The+Infamous+Grimace · · Score: 4, Informative

    Which isn't too bad to lose that key because there currently are only about thirty commercial games for Apple machines.

    You sure 'bout that?

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  15. Re:Scroll lock is used in Excell by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 2, Informative

    as far as apple games go, you'd be right if you were talking about sports games. i don't believe there are too many of those.
    but if you're talking about FPSs:
    wolfenstein,
    call of duty,
    various quakes,
    halo,
    jedi knight,
    jedi academy,
    battlefield 1942,
    america's army,
    NOLF,
    XIII,
    Unreal Tournament 2004,
    doom,
    medal of honor,
    and i'm sure there are some other ones i'm forgetting.

    so if one is an FPS player, saying that there are only 30 games for apples, or that their gaming collection sucks, they sound about as informative as a noob screaming "you're a cheater", and need to re-educate themselves

    and if one is not an FPS player, then they're probably not a power gamer anyway.

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  16. Re:apple is overated by Lord+Kano · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hey, Windows doesn't even come with a C compiler! My iBook at least shipped with a Developer Tools CD (even if it wasn't installed by default). Also, Developer Tools is FREE. How much does Visual Studio cost again? (Actually, I can get it through MSDN-AA free, but most people probably can't)

    It just so happens that Microsoft has a version of their compiler that is $Free.

    Okay, I have to admit that back then I didn't use OS 7 enough, or understand enough about computers, to know whether it was better or not.

    I did, and it was.

    However, by that time they had already lost because they wouldn't allow clones, and IBM did.

    Eventually Apple DID allow clones. Power Computing, UMAX, SuperMac, APS et all made nice Mac clones. Power Computing's top of the line was usually faster than Apple's top of the line. The PowerTower Pro series from Power Computing stomped ass all over the Powermac 8500/9500s from Apple.

    This is part of the reason why Jobs killed off the clones. People who needed as much speed as possible bought Power Computing. People who needed the lowest price possible bought UMAX. People who wanted the best bang for their buck bought other clones. Only people who were loyal to the Apple brand name bought Apple.

    The fact that all the clones could run Windows (and MS-DOS, for that matter) was what allowed MS to get their monopoly in the first place.

    That's arguable. I agree that not allowing clones earlier was one of the biggest mistakes in all of the computing industry; but who can say how much different things would have turned out if they had allowed it earlier?

    LK

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  17. Re:comparison Athlon64, G5 by aristotle-dude · · Score: 2, Informative
    But none of that matters and all that theoretical speed goes out the window if you install Windows XP and try to encode DVD and do something else. Now SuSE is a fine distro but is does not run the following:

    Games

    Adobe Photoshop

    Adobe Illustrator

    Macromedia Dreamweaver

    MS Office

    etc....

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  18. Re:Pizzaboxes by HybridJeff · · Score: 2, Informative

    sounds kind of like these sun boxes, we've got a bunch of them in my schools library used mainly for web access and catalog browsing.

  19. Re:Only apple... by jreilly · · Score: 2, Informative

    umm...the size of the cpu has absolutely nothing to do with the size of the board. Do you really think the ram controller, ata controller, etc, etc are all going to shrink too, along with all the wires connecting them?

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  20. Re:inventory control? by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 0, Informative

    Ferdinand Porsche, I think.

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