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What Might Have Been: Microsoft Almost Bought SAP

steveorama writes "This article from Bloomberg indicates that 'Microsoft Corp, the world's largest software maker, approached late last year about buying the German company, a combination that would have vaulted it to the biggest seller of software for business applications.'" The talks came out in advance of likely disclosure in the ongoing merger battle involving Oracle, PeopleSoft and the U.S. Department of Justice. An anonymous reader points to this article in the Financial Times, adding "Microsoft says the discussions were halted due to the complexity involved in the transaction and in integrating the two companies. A merger with SAP would be a profound break with previous Microsoft strategy, and would likely have raised eyebrows among regulators."

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  1. It might have actually made SAP usable by mks113 · · Score: 4, Informative

    SAP has about the worst User Interface I've ever seen. The only exception might be old IBM terminals running on mainframes.

    For all the negative we say about microsoft, they have done a lot for generating a consistant user interface. On SAP, sometimes you have to hit enter, sometimes you click the green checkmark (in "random" locations), sometimes you click the clock icon, sometimes you hit f8.

    Unless you use it every day, you forget how to use the basic functions.

    You forget how nice it is to use Windows until you use SAP!

  2. Re:I cannot see how that's going to fly by SmilingBoy · · Score: 5, Informative

    German antitrust law would not apply. A MS/SAP merger would be subject to the European merger regulations.

  3. Re:I cannot see how that's going to fly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
    In general, Americans have more freedom than Germans. This includes anti-trust as well as free speech.

    This is of course completely off topic, but I love this free speech rethoric so much, I have a "spot the difference"-type exercise prepared specifically for those occasions:

    U.S. Constitution, 1st Amendment:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    German Basic Law, Articles 4, 5, 8, and 17, 1st paragraphs, translated as closely to the original as possible:

    Freedom of belief, conscience, and freedom of religious and philosophical confession are inviolable.
    Everybody has the right to utter and distribute their opinion orally, written, and visually, and to gain information from publically available sources without hindrance. Freedom of the press and freedom of reporting through radio and film are guaranteed. There is no censorship.
    All Germans have the right to assemble peacefully and unarmed without the need for prior announcement or permission.
    Everybody has the right individually or together with others to petition or complain in writing to the appropriate government offices and the representatives.
  4. Re:MSSAP ... by KayakFun · · Score: 2, Informative

    They would be a perfect match:
    SAP = Sanduhr Anschau Programma (German for eggtimer watching application)
    MS is not known for speedy software either.

  5. Instead by boatboy · · Score: 2, Informative

    A merger with SAP would be a profound break with previous Microsoft strategy
    Not sure how it would have been much different than strategy in other markets, but it should be pointed out they did buy out another large ERP company.

  6. Re:And it would have resulted by fatray · · Score: 4, Informative
    Of course, but is there an ERP package that isn't bloat-ware?

    My experience is that the big ERP systems are pretty bloated. One of the things that went on with these systems was that every company had to have a whole set of "modifications" to make the ERP system fit their business. These mods were often poorly done, poorly controlled and caused no end of reliability problems. These mods often contributed to the implementation projects being way over budget and way late. These mods, that almost all of their customers did, became a major obstacle to installing new versions. One of my past employers had a highly modified ERP system that they wanted to upgrade from 2.x to 3.y. They spent serverl hundred thousand dollars implementing the mods on version 3.y and finally just gave up because it was too hard. (I wasn't on that project!) They kept using 2.x until they were acquired by a competitor (who was actually using something older, more modified, and worse).

    The ERP systems companies started making their software more "customizable" or "configurable" in an attempt to prevent mods. This made these already very large programs into true behemoths. A lot of companies still want their mods and that still causes a lot of cost and grief.

    There are some systems that are not bloated--these are often called mid-range or tier 2 systems. One that I have used is Fourth Shift. It is not a perfect system, but it is low bloat and can be implemented pretty quickly and reasonably painlessly. I've installed FS into 4 businesses and each of those projects went very well. Some of these suppliers of smaller systems don't allow mods by the simple expedient of not distributing source code.

  7. Navision was two years ago by theolein · · Score: 2, Informative

    I supported Navision on Windows in my last job. I was concerned when, in somewhere around May 2002, Microsoft bought Navision that there would be problems, but there weren't. Navision is also meant for smaller comapnies than SAP and has some critical problems on Windows servers, such as having no database replication capability, no live backup capability and a seriously fucked interface (it originally comes from a DOS and UNIX commandline type environment and they even had their own non standard GUI elements).