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Should The FCC Be Abolished?

stwrtpj writes "CNET is running an interesting commentary from its chief political correspondent explaining why the FCC should be abolished. When I saw this link from NewsForge, my initial reaction was that he was full of it, but after I RTFA, I have to admit that he makes some interesting points. So how about it? Should the FCC be abolished? Can the market regulate itself yet?"

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  1. fcc is a necessary body by quelrods · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The fcc exists primary to ensure radio waves continue to exist and companies are protected from each other. Without proper regulation, and I highly doubt the industry can do this alone, things like satelite tv would be irredic at best. Things like computer monitors, cordless phones, stereos would not have regulations on the interference they put out and cause lots of havoc.

    The fcc does do harm such as making money off selling radio spectrum but it's purpose is well defined and one not easily replaced.

    Things like Janet Jackson at the super bowl don't make me feel sorry for the guilty parties at all. National tv with children watching and people feel the need to "push the envenlope."

    Problems such as the broadcast flag are more a fault of intense lobbying from the MPAA and very little opposition because people either don't understand or don't care. The fcc cannot be faulted for blunders to fair use.

    Further the writer's theory of owning spectrum is even sillier than the current system. As an amateur radio operater some times I'm a primary and other times a secondary user of spectrum. Primary means that I must not be interfered with a nd secondary means I better not interfer. The lack of spectrum would only be in crease if sharing was halted.

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    1. Re:fcc is a necessary body by garcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I am pretty certain that we don't need a governing body telling us what is decent and what isn't.

      I think that it should be up to the people to decide through boycott and public displays of disapproval.

      Keep government control out of our lives.

    2. Re:fcc is a necessary body by red+floyd · · Score: 4, Funny

      \i{The fcc exists primary to ensure radio waves continue to exist}

      I think Mr. Maxwell already took care of that.

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    3. Re:fcc is a necessary body by BWJones · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There are other issues in addition to regulating radio spectrum that the FCC has undertaken. Namely, business management and media consolidation and "morals" are only one part of that aspect they feel they have to "regulate".

      Should the FCC be abolished?

      In a word,.......No. However, under the current director, Michael Powell (sorry Colin) I would argue there needs to be more oversight to ensure they are actually doing their job and protecting the peoples right to media and information. It could simply be a result of the overall current Whitehouse administration, but big media certainly does have an ally in the FCC right now. The current FCC supports large media consolidations to the point where we now have just FIVE large giants of commercial control in this country. Because media has become big business and not about reporting all the news that is fit to print or doing a journalists obligation to report facts, diversity of coverage becomes a monetary decision. Will it fit within the bottom line of the company? What will it do to our profit margins? I myself am rather disgusted with the way CNN has gone in the last few years after having started as THE source for my news. However, in the last few years they have decided from a business perspective, it makes more sense to report on the news mostly, but also a bit on stuff like who Jennifer Lopez is marrying now. Please.

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    4. Re:fcc is a necessary body by KarmaMB84 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      History has proven that the minority requires protecting from the majority. The "there's more of us so fuck you!" policy does not make for smooth operation.

    5. Re:fcc is a necessary body by earlgreen · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Things like Janet Jackson at the super bowl don't make me feel sorry for the guilty parties at all. National tv with children watching and people feel the need to "push the envenlope."

      Hey, my breast-fed toddler was watching and she not only noticed but pointed and said "daaaa!!!". Why exactly anyone would decide that exposing a mammary gland is half time entertainment, and why anyone would actually care afterwards, is still a mystery to both myself and my daughter.

    6. Re:fcc is a necessary body by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I really don't care if it makes for a smooth operation or not. The government was not originally meant to control us in the way that it does now.

      The FCC was not created to decide when and how "free speech" can be exercised.

    7. Re:fcc is a necessary body by conradp · · Score: 5, Insightful
      The fcc exists primary to ensure radio waves continue to exist and companies are protected from each other. Without proper regulation, and I highly doubt the industry can do this alone, things like satelite tv would be irredic at best. Things like computer monitors, cordless phones, stereos would not have regulations on the interference they put out and cause lots of havoc.

      This is absurd, a bunch of computer geeks ought to know better than this. Satellite TV exists *in spite* of the FCC, why you think your satellite dish wouldn't work without the FCC, I have no idea.

      • It's not the FCC that keeps motherboards compatible with memory and processors.
      • It's not the FCC that keeps monitors compatible with video cards.

      Private industry makes those things compatible voluntarily. Just as no one wants to buy a monitor that won't plug into your video card, similarly no one will want to buy a cordless phone that that interferes with your TV reception. We don't need big brother to take care of us.

      If this tiny smidgen of what the FCC does is so important, Congress can always pass laws mimicking the current FCC regulations that prohibit devices from outputting enough power to interfere with other devices. The problem with the FCC is that this tiny 5% of what they do that might be useful gives them cover for the other 95% of what they do that actually restricts progress.
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    8. Re:fcc is a necessary body by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If, when the auctioned off the spectrum, some frequencies were kept by the government and maintained as public - much the way the government purchases lands for parks and preserves - would this satisfy that issue?

      What if the FCC was reduced to ensuring public safety by regulating device emission standards, owning the public spectrums, and doing some small part in coordinating the beneficial use of technology? Wouldn't that be better than spending taxes mandating that in 2005 we won't be able to record anything on TiVo because Warner Brothers is worried about their copyright?

      The private frequency ownership doesn't work out quite as perfectly as the author suggests. Sure, opening a single UHF frequency up could mean billions in additional revenue. What if we opened up nine frequncies, in different parts of the spectrum, in different regions? Then the benefit is largely negated by the same difficulties we deal with in cellular today. The reason we buy tri-band phones is because there isn't a clear standard, and that, in some ways, drives an increase the cost of the products & services.

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    9. Re:fcc is a necessary body by autopr0n · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, well. Without the FCC, there's nothing stopping me from buying a 80 megawatt radio and television transmitter, and broadcasting porn on every channel.

      I mean, how are people going to choose what's 'decent' and what's not when anyone with a lot of electricity can broadcast anything on any channel whenever they feel like it? Most likely, they won't get anything at all.

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    10. Re:fcc is a necessary body by TGK · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Whoever moderated this as Troll needs to be dragged out into the street and shot.

      KarmaMB84 (and what the hell kind of a username is that?) is simply restating the opinions of a Mr. Alexis de Toqueville. de Toqueville argued that one of the inherent dangers of democracy was the tyranny of the majority. In short, that those who are in the majority can and will create laws which are designed not only to keep themselves in the majority but to oppress those that disagree with them.

      While it's a stretch to argue that this really applies in the case of television viewership, it certainly does apply in cases like the War on Terror (PATRIOT by its very nature stifles opposition).

      Troll indeed. Next thing you know we'll be modding Thomas Jefferson and John Locke down for "All men are created equal."

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    11. Re:fcc is a necessary body by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "The FCC was not created to decide when and how "free speech" can be exercised."

      I fail to see how what happened is a case of free-speech. Asking for decency during one particular type of broadcast is not the same as supressing free speech or censorship.

      I think we do more or less have the same frame of mind (I don't like the gov't dictating what is good or bad, i.e. Vice City), but man, please, don't turn this into free-speech. You'll lose.

    12. Re:fcc is a necessary body by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There should be laws regarding the maximum power transmitter one is able to use on a particular frequency, and that's all. OK, reserve some limited bands for aircraft and emergency use. Everything else is up to individuals to work out between themselves, the markets, the courts, and their gun collections. Just kidding on the gun collections part. Sort of. Maybe they could televise a 'frequency allocation duel'.

      Anyway, if the airwaves are not suitable for relatively high power AM, FM, and TV broadcasts, then those uses should fall into oblivion. Other uses for the airwaves to transmit the same information will quickly replace the old dinosaurs.

      The major uses of the radio frequencies are the very same uses that were envisioned when radio was invented. Those were 1) talking between ship and shore, 2) entertainment broadcasts, and 3) replacing the telegraph. I'll give you #1, which is necessary for ships, planes, etc. But 2 and 3 are better served by other technologies, or different radio technologies.

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    13. Re:fcc is a necessary body by JWSmythe · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Read the article.

      They're suggesting frequencies be sold like property. If you're broadcasting between 54Mhz and 216Mhz, and I own that property in the area (VHF TV channels 2-13), I'll sue you, and I'll get a restraining order to get your equipment unplugged or seized.

      For the owner of those frequencies, it's a valuable asset. It'd be like owning property on Wall Street, and opening a peep show theater. I could make a whole lot more money selling the space as executive office space.

      I don't agree with the idea of abolishing the FCC, but I do feel that they need to be reorganized.

      I'd like to buy a 100W transmitter, and do a mix of talk and local group/band/dj music. It's not going to happen though, the FCC is getting too much for their licensing. I'm sure the ASCAP, BMI, etc, etc, would want a substantial cut of my profits too.

      In the case of the boob flash at the Superbowl, the sponsors pulling their money hurt them more than the FCC throwing fines around. The sponsors control what gets broadcast way more than the FCC does.

      Consider what gets more viewers, Friends, or a local talk show about county government? People are going to watch Friends, rather than hear about zoning changes in the ghetto. The sponsors throw their money to where the viewers are, and broadcasters are going to try to put up more content that is favorable to making more money. More housewives want to watch soaps than sci-fi horror movies. If more people were watching higher channels with their movie reruns during the day, you'd see more movies showing up in the lower channels during the day. Thank you Nielsen.

      Even the cable industry knows when to cash in. Sure there's a bit of soft-core porn on at night, but it's available 24/7 on PPV channels, where they can make a real buck.

      If getting a 80MW transmitter and broadcasting whatever you want gets you off, do it. You can buy transmitters online from overseas vendors. Right now you worry about the FCC. Without the FCC, you worry about the owners of those frequencies suing the pants off you. I'd worry more about 83 lawsuits, than I would about 1 FCC fine. Don't forget to make sure that porn you're transmitting is licensed for distribution purposes, or you'll be sued by all those porn companies too.

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    14. Re:fcc is a necessary body by damiam · · Score: 4, Funny
      Mammary glands cause underwear tents.

      Not Janet Jackson's.

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    15. Re:fcc is a necessary body by cshark · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm all for disbanding the FCC.

      Decency regulations are shit.

      Don't want them don't need them.

      I think it's time we started putting pussy on TV. Lots of it. In fact, we could even have a whole channel devoted to nothing but big fat sloppy wet pussies. Or better yet, ten of them...

      Spectrum regulations?
      Yes, I don't mind being radiated by both my monitor and my microwave, not to mention a dozen or so other devices that the FCC regulates.

      I wonder if it radiation whitens teeth...

      C'mon, did you really want to watch TV on your TV anyway? I would personally much rather mod my TV to listen to people's cell phones, which is the first place all that handy new unregulated bandwidth is going to go.

      We didn't need AM or FM to be regulated anyway, and I'm sure there are several interesting kinds of broadcasting we can do over FM is the FCC is abolished.

      I could record a tape of myself saying "fuck fuck fuck" for about ten minutes, loop, and broadcast to california. Okay, maybe not from my car, but if there's no regulation on the band, what's to stop me from building an antenna on my roof? I'd call it, the fuck channel. One word, all the time!

      Getting rid of the FCC would force everyone to buy new technology and get rid of their old shit which only half works anyway! Besides, all that old stuff is missing important DRM technology anyway. It's really in our best interests that we buy the new stuff that's locked down for our own protection.

      It will be great!

      It would be a boom the economy... in India!

      Think of it like all that trickle down economics. It's like a tax break for the super rich, but better!

      Just as the tax breaks have arguable benefit for the working American, this idea would have no tangible benefit at all!

      Just think of it, we would automatically hand over billions of dollars to giant transnational companies, which will turn around and pay no taxes, ship more jobs over seas, and all that fun stuff.

      I hope they abolish the FCC.
      And while we're at it, let's abolish the FDA (arsenic anyone?). And any other useless thee letter government agency.

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    16. Re:fcc is a necessary body by EvilAlien · · Score: 4, Insightful
      " Asking for decency during one particular type of broadcast is not the same as supressing free speech or censorship."

      That is exactly why it is about freedom of speech and censorship. Your idea of what constitutes" decency" is not absolute. Decency is not a measurable thing, but a concept. It is a judgement that is entirely qualitative in nature. What, objectively, is indecent about Janet Jackson's breast? Is it more or less indecent than showing the towers in New York falling live on CNN? Is it more or less indecent than the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan? Is it more or less indecent than simulated rape on a TV drama?

      I'd like to know how people actually think Janet Jackson's lame stage show is actually dangerous and in need of punishment. I hate to break it to you, but most babies see more boob on a regular basis than most men on /.... I'd use the tired old "there is stuff way worse than that on European commercials" example too, but I'm sure that would turn into a round of good ol' RAH RAH U S A.

      The secret to the rapid increase in wealth in the USA isn't due to puritanical phobia of nudity, and I'd like to hear a good reason for the FCC to be interested in content rather than something real like ensuring communications infrastucture stays operational.

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    17. Re:fcc is a necessary body by NachoDaddy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So who 'buys' the spectrum for low power unlicsened devices like radio control? Whoops, some big telecom just bought 72MHz, buh-bye radio control toy industry. How about that 144-146MHz band? OK it's up for auction. I see the amatuers came up with $132.78 between them, and looks like FedEx came up with $15 million for the same band. We have a winner. Oh, and that 100W FM station you wanted. There used to be a thing called low power FM, available cheaply to non-profits and average people, but under the new rules, you will have to buy it from Clear Channel for $26 million. Too bad. The guy who wrote that article is a bofoon that has no real concept of the variety of services the FCC provides. The FCC, in spite of all thier pad press, is a great equalizer, making wireless spectrum available to great large audience, big and small organization alike. Next time you key up you FRS radio to find your kids, say 'thank you' on prime real estate in the UHF band.

    18. Re:fcc is a necessary body by Spy+Hunter · · Score: 4, Insightful
      That analogy to computer part compatibility is flawed because computer parts aren't a limited resource in the same way spectrum is. If I go out and buy a computer part that's incompatible with yours, it doesn't cause your part to stop working. With radio, things are different. Regulation of some sort is without a doubt necessary to ensure that the spectrum doesn't become hopelessly polluted with competing products and therefore useless.

      In an ideal world, the FCC would realize that 99% of current and future communications needs would be better served by a standard high-speed wireless IP network instead of the amazing mishmash of specialized protocol bands we have now. It would rearrange current spectrum allocation to phase out legacy systems and give almost all the useful communications bands to a new protocol (or small set of protocols) based around IP communication. This new wireless network would become part of the Internet. Efficient compressed digital data could replace jillions of old inefficient analog technologies (police radios, CB radios, AM/FM radio, TV, etc) and unify tons of existing digital standards (HDTV, CDMA/TDMA/GSM/3G cell phones, DirecTV/Dish network satellite TV, 802.11x, etc). With all of those bands available to it, the new IP network would have insane amounts of raw bandwidth to play with.

      Before this could become a reality, some work would have to be done to adapt the ideas of IP QoS and multicasting to the realities of radio transmission so that things like TV and radio could be done efficiently over a wireless IP network. I haven't been following developments in IP multicasting technologies; are they mature enough to be useful for things like TV?

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    19. Re:fcc is a necessary body by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Basicly the only rules you need are those that ensure that a society runs well: e.g - killing is bad - stealing is bad - free speach is good - x isn't allowed because it is dangerous to you or the public

      A society that "runs well" requires both more and less than you might expect.

      "Killing is bad" isn't required, for instance. Most historical societies had rules about who you could kill, and when, without societal sanctions. But very few took the stance that "killing is bad". I note that a Code Duello existed in many (if not most) societies up to the 19th century. Killing was allowed, and even encouraged, in some specific conditions. The societies didn't especially suffer from this lack of "killing is bad".

      Likewise for stealing. Some societies forbid it (USA, as an example), some allow it under certain conditions (England in the 1500's, as regards Spanish property), some encourage it (most Plains Indian cultures respected horse-thieves). Whether the society ran well was irrelevant to its stand on "stealing is bad".

      That said, societial rules, in general, reduce to

      (1)who you can kill, and when,

      (2)who you can screw, and when,

      (3)what you can own, and under what circumstances,

      (4)what you can say, and to whom,

      (5)who you can turn to for redress of grievance in case any of the above are violated by anyone. (some societies require you to turn to the government, at one level or another for redress, some allow you to seek redress personally)

      Note that case (3) actually creates the largest part of "law" in almost all societies. The rest of it, no matter the specific implementation, is really quite straightforward.

      Note also that a society can "run well" with almost any answer to those five cases, if the people of the society accept the "rules" (~90% acceptance is typical in a stable society).

      Issues come up when there are divisions within a society where a very large minority cannot, in good conscience, accept one or more rules. An example - slavery in the nineteenth century USA. ~2/3 of the population did not support it, ~1/3 did. Both sides considered their positions to be a matter of "rights". Result - Lincoln's election, secession, War Between the States (I refuse to call it the Civil War - there was nothing "civil" about it).

      Note that up till the nineteenth century, slavery was legal, if not common, in virtually all societies. There were, in almost all societies, minor elements who considered slavery "evil/wrong/sinful" (pick one), but not so many as to force the issue into contention.

      Since then, slavery has been illegal in almost all societies. There are minor elements who consider slavery "good" (or at least acceptable), but not enough to force the issue into contention.

      And, finally "x isn't allowed because it is dangerous to you or the public" is probably a far broader concept than you thought when you proposed it. It includes such things as smoking (dangerous to the smoker, at least), fast food (dangerous to the fat slob who overindulges, though that is true of any food), lack of exercise (dangerous, I expect, to most of /.). Did you really think that the "basic rules for society" should allow the government to regulate the amount/kind of food/exercise you must get?

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  2. Misleading Summary by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "A small country devastated by the economy of communist rule is recovering rapidly, and has a smaller government than the US. Therefore we should eliminate the FCC."

    What?!

    I agree with most of the article, but that's quite the non sequitur.

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  3. Let me think....NO by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Having worked for a number of radio stations I am well aware of the inherently evil nature of the FCC. If you have to work with them on a regular basis, you cannot help but come to the conclusion that they suck.

    However, the chaos that would result from everyone and their mother grabbing whatever bandwidth they felt they needed and filling it up with whatever the hell they felt like putting in it is less palatable still.

    Last thing we need is to make it easier for people who can afford bigger equipment to force the little guys out. On top of that, there are actual safety issues involved, with radio telemetry for airplanes and all the emergency bands.

    Such a bad idea.

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  4. Uhh by lancomandr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I understand the points in the article about why the FCC should be abolished and I disagree with the FCC's regulations about content on public broadcasting channels and the like, but who will be there to stop me from playing Eminem on the frequency of the local police department that I love so much? Who will people complain to when their eleven o'clock news is intermittently interrupted by images of the Goatse man ready to go, because I'm driving through suburban neighborhoods with a transmitter in my car? And thats without even bringing the market into consideration... I think the FCC has an important role in the stability of our telecommunications that couldn't be taken up by the market itself simply due to the nature of business. Try putting the FCC on some tigher reins first before getting rid of them completely.

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    1. Re:Uhh by ragefan · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I understand the points in the article about why the FCC should be abolished and I disagree with the FCC's regulations about content on public broadcasting channels and the like, but who will be there to stop me from playing Eminem on the frequency of the local police department that I love so much? Who will people complain to when their eleven o'clock news is intermittently interrupted by images of the Goatse man ready to go, because I'm driving through suburban neighborhoods with a transmitter in my car? And thats without even bringing the market into consideration... I think the FCC has an important role in the stability of our telecommunications that couldn't be taken up by the market itself simply due to the nature of business.

      There is nothing stopping anyone from doing those things now, except for breaking FCC regulations. The point the article was trying to make is that the slices of spectum would be treated just real estate is now, some areas are public ( roads, parks, etc) and others private. If you are illegally broadcasting in a particular spectum then you are trepassing just like if you jumped over a fence into someone's land. These 'titles' for area of the spectum could be bought and sold just like real estate is now.

    2. Re:Uhh by SmurfButcher+Bob · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Good point - but I have to take exception to it, because the implication that the FCC enforces the allocations is false.

      My cohort scored some spectrum in the midwest, and set up a wireless ISP in a mid-sized community. All was fine for a couple months... then he started to suffer outages. Quite literally, a ten mile swath would just fall off the planet over here one day, over there the next.

      Four days later, some "Tony" shows up and offers to consult, and "fix" the outages. My cohort sent him packing, but the guy walked out the door laughing.

      The next day, the outages were back... and the cause was obvious. Cohort finds the center of the outage, and drives there. And lo and behold, there's a van! No driver, but full of equipment, doors locked with the engine running. Cohort writes down the vin and license plate, calls the FCC on the cell phone, and boy... they're rabid about it. Then he told them the name of the consultant, and they instantly shifted to "we'll get back to you."

      He called some counterparts in other areas for suggestions. The "consultant" had visited all of them as well, and they all paid him about 60k / yr EACH for his "consulting". Like my cohort, they'd all called the FCC when he'd first showed up, and like with my cohort, the FCC did nothing, because this "consultant" is a cousin of some mob boss in NY.

      The outages eventually stopped after about half a year, but the damage was done. The business folded.

      So, the FCC has great utility in that they allocate spectrum. OTOH, they are absolutely *useless* because they absolutely refuse to enforce it... and they cannot be held accountable for their lack of dilligence.

      Having authority with no accountability = abuse. They need to go.

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  5. Separation of powers... by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The FCC is a division of the executive branch of the US Government, which means its job is not to make laws, but to enforce and administer laws passed by the legislative branch.

    FCC rules come in when the law doesn't make a definitive instruction, but tells the FCC to use its rulemaking process to make the call, and review its own decision periodically.

    The FCC only has the powers Congress gives it. If you don't like what they're doing with it, tell Congress to change the law to override their mistake.

    1. Re:Separation of powers... by conradp · · Score: 5, Interesting
      The FCC only has the powers Congress gives it. If you don't like what they're doing with it, tell Congress to change the law to override their mistake.

      And that's exactly what we're doing here, expressing our opinion that Congress should change the law to override the mistake of creating an FCC. Or at least to correct the anachronism that is the FCC.

      It doesn't take $300 million a year to allocate spectrum, the current activities of the FCC go way beyond that; like any bureaucracy, it's main interest lies in expanding its power.
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  6. the spectrum is a scarce resource by ChipMonk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The RF spectrum is truly a pie, and the slices are handed out by a central body. Since the spectrum is an interstate resource, it properly falls under federal (and, by treaty extension, international) jurisdiction. Without the FCC, enforcement of spectrum allocations would be left to other bodies that already don't have the resources to understand things like Internet crime.

    OTOH, when it comes to things like content regulation...

  7. International issues by HotNeedleOfInquiry · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The frequencies under 30Mhz can be heard and can interfere beyond country boundaries. These frequencies are coordinated by international treaties. A fine way for the United States (of which I am a citizen) to find yet another way to piss off the rest of the world would be to ignore the enforcement of these treaties by disbanding the FCC.

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  8. FCC should stop censorship by dartmouth05 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I am not qualified to comment on Declan's points about whether the FCC should be dissolved entirely--I don't know a great deal about frequency interference and the like--but I do believe that the FCC should get out of the censorship business.

    Since Howard Stern seems to be a popular example of FCC regulation of content, I'll touch on that. While Howard Stern's show is offensive to many and has been so for many years, he has a huge following. He is popular, people tune in to listen. If what he is doing is sufficiently distasteful, ratings will fall and he'll get kicked off the air by the radio stations. This is not an area in which the Government should be dictating what is on the air.

    Yes--it's the public's airwaves and all, but hey--the public is listening to it! The public likes it! Not everyone to be sure, but this isn't some guy who broke into a radio station and started shouting obscenities into a microphone. There is substance here, and the Government should not be interfering.

    Radio and TV is an area where the free market of ideas should reign. We have V-chips and similar technology to stop your kids from seeing what you don't want them to see. (Without even mentioning that the best. and most appropiate method is to watch TV with them instead of using it as a babysitter).

    Again, I can't speak to Declan's main point, as to whether or not the entire FCC should be abolished, but I'd certainly like to see that happen to the division that enforces broadcasting standards...

  9. No FCC? by HockeyPuck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Get rid of the FCC....?

    Welcome our new master... Clearchannel...

  10. How about just reducing the FCC? by Dwonis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why not just reduce the FCC to only license the RF spectrum?

  11. Interesting but weak argument... by stienman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One fear is that some predatory monopolist, a Microsoft of the airwaves, would end up owning all of the spectrum. That won't happen. First, the market value of the spectrum would approach $1 trillion, out of the reach of any individual corporation. Second, antitrust laws would remain on the books. The Department of Justice could wield the Sherman Antitrust Act to challenge unlawful conduct and block mergers.

    First, a decade or two ago we thought that a company approaching a few billion was out of the reach of an individual corporation. Companies will only get bigger.

    Second, antitrust laws are not currently effective. Using MS as an example in the same paragraph where you claim that antitrust laws work is rather painful.

    There are other problems with the article.

    However, it is time for a good review of the FCC's mandate. Remember, they have a mandate and they are following it to the best of their abilities. If you want them to change, call your congresscritter.

    I can understand the argument that spectrum should be handled like land (purchased and owned) but since radio spectrum is inherently public it cannot simply be run under land management laws. There would be no ability for small consumers to buy spectrum, and without efficient management you may end up with a few big chunks, and then millions of tiny inefficent chunks - consider hard disk fragmenting.

    It's an unworkable idea, but it is thought provoking, and I'm certian that was his real intent.

    -Adam

  12. What a complete load of tripe. by jcr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Things like Janet Jackson at the super bowl don't make me feel sorry for the guilty parties at all. National tv with children watching and people feel the need to "push the envenlope."

    If you don't like it, don't watch it. You don't have to put a gun to anybody's head over a matter of taste.

    Problems such as the broadcast flag are more a fault of intense lobbying from the MPAA and very little opposition because people either don't understand or don't care.

    Why is it that you good little apparatchiks never recognize that the major factor in this kind of abuse of power is the existence of the power in the first place? If you allow government to acquire power over communications, who do you THINK is going to wield that power? It's not going to be those of us who want to preserve our fair use rights, because we can't afford million-dollar bribes to politicians.

    Liberty requires no justification. It's the advocates of force like yourself who have the burden of proof.

    -jcr

    --
    The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
    1. Re:What a complete load of tripe. by John+Miles · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you don't like it, don't watch it.

      Janet and Justin are the ones who took that choice away from everybody, not the FCC.

      Many people, especially Americans, are offended by nudity, for whatever reason, and choose to pass on that sensibility to their children. (I don't personally find that worldview very healthy or sensible, but nobody asked me.) The FCC manages the open airwaves and their content on behalf of all Americans, and since a broadcast like this one appears on network TV across the entire country, it is expected to meet the "community standards" of the entire population represented by the FCC.

      Otherwise -- if the public's sensibilities are being offended -- the FCC isn't doing its job as the custodian of a shared public resource. The American audience watching the Super Bowl that day had a reasonable expectation that they were going to see a normal football game and halftime show, but they got something entirely different, and the more prudish of them are justifiably up in arms about it. Their point is the same as yours: the TV audience that day was denied its right to choose what it wanted to watch.

      There are numerous entertainment venues in which nudity and sexual themes are legal and accepted, even in the most puritanical corners of the USA. But all of these venues have one thing in common: if you want to see that stuff, you have to go looking for it. Very few people, from preachers to porn purveyors, think it's a good idea to shove unsolicited content of this nature in Joe Six-Pack and Jane Boxwine's faces when it's not requested or expected.

      The Great Wardrobe Malfunction was essentially an act of civil disobedience, and that implies a willingness to pay the price to get your message across. In this case, the price is a neo-Puritan backlash that's caused a lot of collateral damage to people like Howard Stern who were known for pushing the community-standards envelope. Your quarrel is with Janet, Justin, and their unwilling audience... not the regulatory agency that is chartered to represent that audience.

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  13. Interesting but Mistaken Points by william_lorenz · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The author raises some interesting points, but as an FCC-licensed amateur radio operator (as one of the previous posters) and someone who considers himself to have more knowledge than the average person in this area, I must respectfully disagree with his opinion.

    The FCC does more than just assign spectrum. It also runs enforcement and regulation for our radio frequencies and guards against things such as harmful interference, stepping in with action when needed. Which other governmental organization would keep the technical know-how in house that allows them to track down harmful interference based on field reports?

    Furthermore, the FCC guards our markets and prevents monopolies from snatching up too much of a particular spectrum, service, or market. The author seems to think that market dynamics would themselves guard against monopolies with high pricing of spectrum and our current monopoly-prevention laws, but I disagree with this. I don't think the spectrum will be priced out of reach of many corporations. There was recently a desire on the part of various corporations to consolidate the FM broadcast spectrum, and I remember this being heavily debated in various publications. Also, the FCC does already regulates our spectrum based upon our monopoly laws. Which other government agency would handle this for us?

  14. Re:Reform, yes, eliminate, no by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Look at the recent history (20 yrs). Any regulated industry that is deregulated turns into a chinese firedrill, or clusterfuck. We can deregulate savings and loans, these guys are conservative bankers they won't do anything stupid. $50 billion later, that mess is almost straightened out. Cable TV, prices are only going up at 10X the rate of inflation. Airlines, talk about failed business models, they can't survive without taxpayer subsidies. The list goes on and on... The cost of deregulating is unbearable because of endless greed and basic stupidity.

    Or you could look at it as a needed market correction after years of governmnet intervention.

    Airline fares, for example, were set by the government, instead of market prices. As a result, airlines built route structures to make as much as possible within those rules. Once the rules went away, other airlines with new business models came in and lowered prices - look a jetBlue/Airtran/SWA - they seem to be making money.

    Regulation benefits the regulated, and once free market forces are introduced, those that have bad business models will die.

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    I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
  15. Re:Yes by Erwos · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To be fair, the FCC DID NOT throw Howard Stern off the radio. Indeed, his employers did - in order to avoid being fined by the FCC. This is not an insignificant distinction, and efforts to portray the FCC as censoring Howard Stern's political views are laughable, especially considering he was a rather ardent supporter of the administration beforehand.

    The simple fact is, I really believe that most of the American public doesn't mind public decency standards, and in fact, encourages them. They're not offended by the lack of pornography. And, since we're a democracy, and the standards are not curtailing any personal rights (only the rights of corporations!), I'm not sure why all of /. hates them. Go buy cable if you want porn whenever you want - it's entirely legal by the horrible old FCC, you know?

    If the FCC ever starts censoring _ideas_, we have problems. But they're not doing that, and people who portray them as doing so are misrepresenting the issue.

    Personally, I think our society could do with less sex and violence on TV - it could make us a little more civilized.

    -Erwos

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    Plausible conjecture should not be misrepresented as proof positive.
  16. Re:No by LBArrettAnderson · · Score: 5, Funny

    The logic of a slashdot reader: 1. [reads link] no way 2. [clicks link] how will i be pursuaded today? 3. [reads the first sentence] "The reason is simple. The venerable FCC, created in 1934, is no longer necessary." 4. [convinced] "I have to admit that he makes some interesting points. So how about it? Should the FCC be abolished?" 5. [takes action] "i'm starting a petition!"

  17. A necessary function, very badly run at present by isdnip · · Score: 4, Interesting

    McCullagh's position on CNET is wrongheaded, and highly anticompetitive. His article actually cites Huber's book, which proposed converting existing radio station licenses into property, so that the licensee of an FM radio station instead ends up with chattel ownership of 200 kHz, to do what they want with it. It's a wingnut's fantasy, a huge transfer of public wealth (the radio spectrum) to private interests (licensees), with the current need to serve the "public interest" replaced by a total obeisance to shareholders' interests, in the name of doctrinaire laissez-faire capitalism. The current licensing system is obsolete, and the FCC's anti-indecensy crusade is nutty, but "property rights" just transfer the problem to courts that lack the FCC's technical staff expertise (some of which does still exist).

    But it's the telecom area that really needs attention. Yes, the Powell FCC is profoundly broken. It regulates by indirection, picking winners and losers privately and coming up with indirect ways to favor them. Its main beneficiaries are the lawyers who try to pick up after them. So one might think that the FCC's charter is broken, but that's not it at all. It's simply the leadership and the politics behind it; this FCC, much worse than its predecessor, is clearly led by a celebrity princeling who just doesn't get it. A change in leadership is necessary, not abolition.

    The reason is simply that the telecommunications industry is highly concentrated. The Incumbent Local Exchange Carriers have monopoly power. In the European Union, IIRC, a company with a 25% market share is suspected of having monopoly power, and scrutinized for abuses thereof. The USA is very, very loose on antitrust regulation, and the ILEC monopolies were granted legally, so the antitrust laws only (per the Supreme Court's recent Trinko decision) apply to attempts to extend the monopolies into new areas. Demonopolization is entirely the province of the Telecom Act, not antitrust. And the Telecom Act puts the FCC in the lead. Without regulation, a monopoly will simply squash competitors. This is particularly true in telecom for two reasons. One is the "natural monopoly". This refers to the case where a given industry has large economies of scale and a dominant provider. The unit cost of the dominant provider is thus lower than that of a new competitor, so the economics of competition are dismal.

    The other reason is the network effect: A network's value rises with the number of users that it reaches. Federal regulations, enforced by the FCC, require *interconnection* between networks. A CLEC with ten customers can interconnect as a peer with the incumbent. The incumbent, of course, has no interest in allowing this. The incumbent, absent regulation, would shut off interconnection to its competitors in a heartbeat. This wouldn't occur if the incumbent's market share were small, but it's necessary to force interconnection *until* the monopoly is broken, and the ex-monopoly has a pecuniary interest in retaining interconnection.

    The Internet has no dominant player, so everyone willingly interconnects. Worldcom wasn't allowed to buy Sprint, largely for that reason. In an FCC-less fully-deregulated world, Verizon and SBC would not be so kind. They might deign to permit competitors to purchase access to their networks, as premium-priced customers rather than peers, if they thought it was profitable enough. That's hardly a way to get competition though.

    Remember, the only reason the public Internet exists is because the FCC, over the *strenuous* objections of the Bell System, overrode restrictions on "sharing" of leased lines. Before that, non-common-carrier networks (like the Internet) could not be run between customers. Leased lines, necessary for high-speed data, were limited to intra-company use. And the FCC, over the *strenuous* objections of ILECs nationwide, overrode restrictions on "foreign attachments", devices like modems, answering machines, telephone sets, and PBXs. Before 1

  18. 2 shining examples by blueforce · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. 2-way radio Licensing
    2. my DSL connection.


    Any person can walk into the local Walmart Super store or the local five and dime and purchase a pair of "5-mile, 22 channel (8 GMRS, 14 FRS) 2-way radios" and a pack of batteries for about $30 US, walk out to the parking lot and start using them - all at risk of fines, and possible federal prison time because you have to be 18 and obtain an FCC license for the GMRS bands. From fcc.gov "The General Mobile Radio Service (GMRS) is a land-mobile radio service available for short-distance two-way communications to facilitate the activities of an adult individual and his or her immediate family members, including a spouse, children, parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, nephews, nieces, and in-laws (47 CFR 95.179). Normally, as a GMRS system licensee, you and your family members would communicate among yourselves over the general area of your residence or during recreational group outings, such as camping or hiking."

    Here's the list of prohibited uses of the GMRS band: (For your reference, a station is defined as any unit, stationary or mobile, capable of broadcasting on the GMRS frequencies.)


    (a) A station operator must not communicate:
    (1) Messages for hire, whether the remuneration received is direct
    or indirect;
    (2) Messages in connection with any activity which is against
    Federal, State, or local law;
    (3) False or deceptive messages;
    (4) Coded messages or messages with hidden meanings (``10 codes''
    are permissible);
    (5) Intentional interference;
    (6) Music, whistling, sound effects or material to amuse or
    entertain;
    (7) Obscene, profane or indecent words, language or meaning;
    (8) Advertisements or offers for the sale of goods or services;
    (9) Advertisements for a political candidate or political campaign
    (messages about the campaign business may be communicated);
    (10) International distress signals, such as the word ``Mayday''
    (except when on a ship, aircraft or other vehicle in immediate danger to
    ask for help);
    (11) Programs (live or delayed) intended for radio or television
    station broadcast;
    (12) Messages which are both conveyed by a wireline control link and
    transmitted by a GMRS station;
    (13) Messages (except emergency messages) to any station in the
    Amateur Radio Service, to any unauthorized station, or to any foreign
    station;
    (14) Continuous or uninterrupted transmissions, except for
    communications involving the immediate safety of life or property;
    (15) Messages for public address systems.
    (b) A station operator in a GMRS system licensed to a telephone
    answering service must not transmit any communications to customers of
    the telephone answering service.

    I guess "Jimmy's a big fat doodie-head violates #3 and who's advertsing jobs on their walkie-talkie anyway?

    Lastly, my DSL connection. My local telco is Verizon and the CO is just under a mile from here. Verizon won't offer DSL in our area - I have to get it through a local ISP. The ISP charges me $35 per month for access; Verizon pops $37.50 + $5.70 tax on my monthly phone bill for "Advanced Data Services Charges" for a grand total of $78.20 per month to get 768/128 ADSL. Whether I get it from Verizon or a third-party, I'm paying Verizon's monthly fee. There is no other broadband choice around here and Verizon must know it. I called them one day to ask why I can't purchase the DSL from them or why they won't offer it in this area, the response was "Our circuits are all full so we can't offer it in your area." I'm pretty sure that fits Webster's definition of extortion.

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    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  19. I will though... by PaulBu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I fail to see how what happened is a case of free-speech. Asking for decency during one particular type of broadcast is not the same as supressing free speech or censorship.

    The classic example of possible cause for supressing free speech is "shouting 'Fire!' in the full theater", which puts others in the situation of some "clear and eminent danger". PLEASE tell me what clear danger comes out of the broadcasting of the aforementioned boob of Ms. Jackson?

    If you can not, a bonus question for you: How "one particular type of broadcast" is different from *THAT* other one? ;-)
    Paul B.

    P.S. I can understand (thgough not necessarily agree with the existance) of a Gov't body impartially providing the applicants licenses on a 'first come, first served" basis, but the amount of the discussion of J.J.'s tit in this context makes me wonder if it is the /, I am reading...

  20. Re:No by dasmegabyte · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think that people understand everything the FCC does. It's not all sucking up to radio stations and keeping cuss words off TV. In fact, TV and Radio make up a very, very, very tiny portion of the spectrum, the rest of which is full of army and civillian communications, navigation information, satelite telemetry, cell phones, etc.

    The reason the FCC exists is to force everybody to play fair with the airwaves. Without them, everybody would just take the easiest-to-use wavelengths, right now those in the 700 Meg - 3 GHz band. After all, nobody really wants to use old low bandwdith communications...they all want shiny, new digital systems, but there just isn't the bandwidth for it (no, not even with spread spectrum). Try to push all of these discordant systems into the same band would be like a hundred people trying to leave through the same small door. And none of them wants to be the guy who's last out because he lets the others through.

    Scrapping the FCC would lead to complete anarchy which would in turn result in very bad things for consumers, such as cell phones that only worked half the time or in certain parts of the country, or radio stations trying to muscle each other out by broadcasting static on each others' stations. Yes, maybe it is a little annoying that the FCC allowed radio consolidation, but really that should have been under the auspice of the FTC, right? The FCC should stick to what it does best -- regulating airwaves -- and leave the anti-monopoly protection to somebody who knows how to do THAT.

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    Hey freaks: now you're ju
  21. What do you mean "deregulation"? by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Deregulation gave us the horrible consolidation that has six or seven companies owning all media.

    Since when was that "deregulation"? That's like saying the electrical rate crisis in California was caused by "deregulation", when it was actually caused by changes to regulations that resulted in mandating a trap for the distribution utility and the consumers.

    The FCC still controls the licenses - and effectively bans the entry of new broadcasters. You can't buy a license for any price, though there are plenty of slots available and (the last time I checked) broadcasting has THE highest return-on-investment of ANY industry.

    Complicated problems result from applying complicated solutions to simple problems. This is nowhere more visible than in government.

    When you have a complicated web of regulations, removing one of them while leaving the rest in place can be like removing one brick from a tottering building. The result can be FAR worse than either what preceeded it OR the complete removal of the building. But the real problem was nevertheless the result of the regulations / tottering building, not the lack of still more patches.

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    Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
    1. Re:What do you mean "deregulation"? by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The california energy crisis was caused by Enron gaming the system. Plain and simple.

      The California energy crisis was caused by new regulations forcing Pacific Gas and Electric to:
      - Divest itself of generators.
      - Refrain from signing long-term contracts with suppliers.
      - Sell as much electricity as the consumers wanted at a capped price.
      - Buy electricity on the spot market for whatever was asked.

      What this meant was whenever the demand outstripped the supply, PG&E was forced to bid the price up into a spike, draning its resources until it bankrupted itself.

      Of COURSE it was in the interest of the suppliers to charge arbitratrarily high prices, and take generation out of service to create the pinch.

      Enron apparently ADDITIONALLY broke a law by shipping some of their generated-in-California power out of the state at a pre-contracted low price and then shipping it back in at a high price. But that was an added straw. The results would have been only slightly less bad if Enron (and all other suppliers) had stayed strictly within the law. The situation was created by the regulations, NOT their lack.

      Of COURSE the suppliers "gamed the system". But the government SET UP THE RULES OF THE GAME. To the extent that they played WITHIN the rules the government has NO GRIPE if they play hard and win big time.

      Companies are in business to MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE. It's the job of governments to set the rules of the game so that maximizing profit creates social goods, rather than social bads.

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      Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
    2. Re:What do you mean "deregulation"? by Technician · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's like saying the electrical rate crisis in California was caused by "deregulation", when it was actually caused by changes to regulations that resulted in mandating a trap for the distribution utility and the consumers.


      For those who don't know, the issue with California power was a rate cap imposed on providers of power. There was not enough profit to build capitol (build new plants & transmission lines to meet demand). This was followed by rising fuel costs and a heat wave. The non-cost effective power plants were simply scheduled for repairs/maitenance/upgrades as running them on high cost fuel to produce low price electric power made absolutely no sense. It was cheaper to import power from states that could produce the power cheaper (NW hydro from Idaho, Washington, Oregon etc). Unfortunately the heat wave created a hydro shortage and the transmission system couldn't handle moving huge amounts of power long distances, hence the in-ability to handle the demand. This is a good example of how regulating a price in a free market economy creates over-demand for a product that can make more money elsewhere and therefore a shortage in supply. The shortage in supply was due to price regulation and compounded by lack of online generation and transmission capacity (caused by price regulation). Without the price regulation, many utilities would have increased capacity, not planned a shut-down for repairs during high fuel cost.

      Try price caps with automobile gas prices and you will suddnly be faced with rationing. (remember the gas lines of the '70's. The $2 limit simply meant sitting in 5 or 6 lines to get a tankful for your trip. (each station now had 6X the cars queuing up for gas as they hopped from station to station to fillup) Rationing by rising prices would have eliminated the long lines.) The supply will go elsewhere and we will be left fighting for the scraps of domestic supply. Price controls create problems in a free market that would otherwise adjust to supply and demand. When gas prices become unreasonable, then alternatives will start to compete. This includes ethanol, natural gas, vegitable oil deritives, fuel effecient cars, and other currently expensive alternatives. (I've already got a hybrid to cut my fuel use in half.)

      It is true that fraud and market manipulation will need to be watched by regulators (Enron) when there is not enough competition between suppliers.

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      The truth shall set you free!
  22. Re:Sure by LightForce3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ham operators have huge bands all to themselves, for what amounts to a glorified boys' clubhouse.

    You, sir, are both incorrect and offensive.

    First off, many of the frequencies that ham radio operators have access to are shared. Also, for the radio spectrum below 1.3GHz, ham radio operators have access to less than 130MHz of spectrum. That's less than 10 percent. I think "huge" is an overstatement.

    Second, ham radio is much more than "a glorified boys' clubhouse." That you should suggest such a thing is an insult to all of the ham volunteers who have assisted in natural disasters (hurricanes, floods, fires) unnatural disasters (terrorist attacks), and public events (parades, etc.). Ham volunteers play a vital role in large-scale emergency situations, and organizations of ham operators exist for this explicit purpose. Public service is, in fact, one of the most (if not single most) critical tenets of ham radio.

    Furthermore, some the core ideals and culture of ham radio are experimentation and exploration, to push the limits and find new ways of doing things. Ideals that are very similar, I think, to the hacker (in the original sense) culture.

    So, before you make such statements, check your facts and and consider what you would lose if you had your way.

    ~~LightForce, KC8EPG

  23. Re:No by conradp · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Deregulation gave us the horrible consolidation that has six or seven companies owning all media.

    In fact the exact opposite of this is true, all of the ills that you mention are happenning right now under current FCC regulation! In fact current FCC regulation is giving us this horrible consolidation that has six or seven comparies owning all the media. As the famous P. J. O'Rourke quote goes,

    "When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators."

    Mega companies like Clear Channel own so many stations precisely because they can wine and dine the FCC whereas small companies can't. Cleaning out the commissioners as you suggest is a short-term solution, the real solution is to eliminate the positions of power that are being wined and dined in the first place. Eliminate the FCC and their myriad of regulations and companies like Clear Channel with have to compete in the marketplace with other companies large and small, instead of buying rulings from the FCC.
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  24. Re:No by TurboTime · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Only a political correspondent would suggest such a thing. If the policies of the FCC are problematic, then fine, work through the system to petition change. Start letter writing campaigns to your congressional representatives (after all, congress does oversee the FCC, not the other way around). But to dismantle them completely would ignore the work they do.
    • Go ahead and pick up any device with a battery in it that's more complicated that a flashlight. Right now. Look under your mouse or your computer. See that FCC ID on there? You can look it up on the FCC's website. Manufacturers selling stuff in the U.S. are required to submit products to the FCC for evaluation to make sure that your mouse won't mess up your walkman's reception, to make sure your dish washer won't wipe out TV reception for your entire neighborhood, and to prevent your cordless phone from causing your router to reboot. Despite that odd article a few weeks back about how interference is just a myth, interference is a real problem that would otherwise require cost-prohibitive technology to completely eliminate all possible interference.
    • Okay, say I want to sell my broadcast (radio/TV/etc) station's frequency to a wireless phone/data company. Now every receiving device in the city will pick up clear reception of a signal of different modulation (in other words, junk). Say several other providers in the area decide to do the same thing. Now you've got a bunch of consumer devices that receive nothing useful. Now any new broadcast stations would have to use different frequency bands that would require consumers to purchase a new receiver for the band that just happens to have a frequency for sale. For each area.
    • The Federal Communications Commission has federal authority. No city or state is permitted to make any law governing the use of the radio spectrum. For example, a town cannot pass a law saying that amateur radio operators cannot operate, or require that no one is permitted to listen to the local police radios while at home.
    I agree that the author raises some valid points about the FCC's policies, but why cut off the leg for a broken toe? Any half-serious article should also talk with some electrical engineers, professional and private radio operators, and consumer groups to fully assess the impact of such a rash decission.
  25. right. by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Do you actually look at girls and say to yourself "I know what is underneath her clothes". Its disturbing that you even think that way. Spooky."

    Are you telling me you don't know what a naked woman looks like? Heh.

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    "Derp de derp."
  26. Foolish and obnoxious by nysus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This blinding faith in the free market is so obnoxious. Deregulation shall save us! Set the corporations decide! The free market is all knowing!

    This eagerness to loosen all reins on corporations is just plain fucking stupid. I'll gladly take a bureaucratic institution over a mindless, souless corporation any day of the week. The FCC has to listen to and abide by the philosophical concerns of Presidents, Legislators, the Courts, and the People. By contrast, all corporations have to listen to is the sound of the cash register. As long as they hear it, they could give a flying fuck about what the rest of society thinks.

    This is a no brainer. Just look at what happnened with the deregulation of the electric grid. Do we really want to do the same thing wiht telecommunication so AT&T can become the next Enron?

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    ---Technology will liberate us if it doesn't enslave us first.

  27. Re: IEEE too. by rudeboy1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I agree. I'm in the RF industry, and I can tell you from first hand experience that, while the FCC has many negative attributes, it carries some crucial resposibilities. The FCC governs the wireless spectrum; everything from defining bands for various devices, to ensuring the safety of the public. Look at Nigeria. As far as I have been informed, there is either no governmental regulation on RF, or the public doesn't pay any heed, (neither would surprise me, as the country rates in the top 5 as most corrupted countries). In Nigeria, the broadband spectrums, (2.4, 5.8GHz) are so unorganized that they are building long distance, high power links right on top of each other. Instead of working with an agency like the FCC to coordinate different company interests, they simply turn up the volume. Almost every piece of wireless broadband equipment has an amplifier on it, even those reaching only a few hundred yards, to say nothing of the ones going 10-20 miles.
    The FCC not only organizes this effort, but also enforces it. Sure, we frown on them for coming down like a ton of bricks on Janet's boob, (who wouldn't - frown I mean. :) but on the other hand, when someone acts up, and puts up a pirate radio station, or causes interference into a legitimate channel, the FCC is generally there to bite them in the butt.
    I agree that the FCC is slowing our technological progress down, but they also provide crucial services. I suppose my suggestion might be to melt them down and start over, creating, (immediately) an organization who can administer the airwaves, (and phone lines, etc.) and then figure out what else NEEDS to be included, without giving them free reign over all things communication related.

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    Raging in an online forum won't do anything for the world around you. To see change, you must take action.
  28. Re:No by Asterisk · · Score: 4, Insightful
    What we are talking about is the use of a limited resource -- you need laws, regulation and enforcement.
    Which is exactly why the FCC ought to be abolished. The article makes note of the fact that in the early days of radio, laws were gradually being developed based on the reality of circumstances in the industry, but the creation of the FCC stifled that process. If things had been allowed to devlelop naturally, we'd today have a good body of common law covering all aspects of radio transmission rights, etc. Instead we have a centralised decision-making body which has inhibited the natural development of technology and stunted its integration into the economy.

    All of the problems you're citing with abolishing the FCC are a direct result of the FCC's existence inthe first place: if we'd allowed laws to develop properly, the wireless start-up wouldn't be interfering with the control tower in the first place; but because we've depended on the FCC to sort these issues out, those laws don't exist.

    It takes time for new technologies to develop into something economically useful. But laws work the same way; trying to jump-start the introduction of a new techonolgy by applying some artificial schema as a substitute for the gradual development of law will in the long run be as much of an impediment as forcibly standardising an immature technology before all of its problems have been completely worked out.

    To say that there aren't limited resources on the internet is a mistake, as well. There are a limited number of IPs and domain names available; there's a finite amount of badwidth available at any given time. But those problems have largely been solved with a minimum of political interference, and the internet works today by mutual cooperation according to constantly developing standards, not by direction from some central authority. If radio waves were treated the same way, we'd be better off.

    Think of national parks. We don't NEED the US Forest Service, right? We should just open the parks, abolish all the current rules and let all the tourists/loggers/environmentalists work out standards amongst themselves to protect the land and best use it? RIIIIIIGGHHT...
    The problem of working out "standards" for land use has been soved for centuries: it's called private property. The disputes between the groups you mentioned exist only because the land in question is owned by the government and considered "public" -- everyone feels that they have some claim on it. Let loggers chop down their own trees on their own land, let tourists visit wilderness parks run privately as co-ops or for-profit businesses, and either close off land earmarked for environmental conservation as wilderness, or turn it over to conservation groups.

    Leaving it in the hands of the Forest Service leaves all the groups involved unsatisfied and makes us deal with the consequences of mismanagement, such as the recent Los Alamos fires.

    In both cases the problem is the same: rather than establishing rights in several property in a finite resource, the state decides to view the whole resource as belonging to the public at once, so we wind up trying to balance all possible uses simultaneously. No one can ever be completely satisfied that way.