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Nanotube Non-Volatile Memory Entering Production

hovermike writes "Nantero and LSI Logic are expected to announce that nanotube non-volatile memory will be going into production, at least as far as the NY Times is concerned. Nanotubes have been discussed previously, Nanotube Applications..., and Buckminsterfullerene..., but I'm certainly surprised something like this has moved into production this quickly. Could this be the ultimate 'bubble' memory?" Reader hovermike writes "The press release can be found at the Nantero website. I'm looking forward to only needing one memory card to store all the 5Mbit pictures that I'll take for the rest of my life."

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  1. Great by EduardoFonseca · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Great stuff. But, is it reliable? This technology is becoming mainstream too quickly.

    Does anyone have more data on this?

    1. Re:Great by Eviscero · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And what kind of storage vs space as well as bandwidth can we expect out of memory developed with this techology?

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    2. Re:Great by Rei · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm thrilled that it's becoming mainstream so quickly. Because even if the company utterly fails to deliver a product that costs a reasonable amount, the simple fact of orders/production of bulk nanotubes will help drive CNT prices down and encourage a lot more CNT research, especially on the critical issues of size, purity, and consistancy of nanotube forms.

      Space elevators, ultracheap rockets, massive bridges, giant skyscrapers.... here we come! (ok, perhaps not that fast... but it's a good start. ;) ).

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  2. Quickly? by afidel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was doing expirements of buckminsterfullerenes back in 1996-97, it shouldn't be suprising that a superior material made it to market in 8-10 years after the start of expiremental evaluation. I doubt it took that long to develop nylon, rayon, or any of the other wonder fibers into products for sale.

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    1. Re:Quickly? by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think nylon was developed during WWII, wasn't it? That must have been a big boost to rapid innovation cycles. All we need is another big war, to be fought entirely with computers... hmm...

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  3. Another new memory by swordboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    STM recently announced that they are entering the production phase for PRAM, or phase-change memory. This is important because PRAM is nonvolatile and has the potential to be written and read much faster than flash. There will come a day when DRAM will go away and we'll be left with extremely fast and simple NVRAM for main memory and possibly even archival storage. It'd be really great if there was only ONE memory in a system. At this point, most high-performance CPUs are mostly cache memory anyway.

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  4. I wouldn't mind this in my PDA by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sounds like it would be lower power than flash memory- and if they can get the manufacturing process cheaper, this could mean finally having say a 40 GB memory card on my PDA- copy my entire desktop to the PDA for mobile applications.

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  5. More details please by Mr.+Sketch · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The articles seemed weak on details, does anyone know what sizes of memory these will be available in? Are we talking megs of memory (like current flash cards), gigs of memory (to replace hard drives), or teras of memory (for the future)?

  6. Toxicity? by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Last I heard certain nanotubes were toxic to the environment. Does anyone know whether these suffer from the same issue?

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  7. How long before... by farzadb82 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hardware vendors use this technolog to bring us a truely "instant on" feature to our laptops and PCs ?

  8. Re:what about it's environmental effects by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And just how exactly is that supposed to happen with a chip encased in plastic? Are you going to put your memory chips in a blender? I guarantee you- if you powder any silicon chip to a size where it could become airborne and inhaled, you're likely to cause siliconitis at the very least (this used to happen to coal miners all the time, horrible disease that can take 60-80 years to do enough damage to your lungs to kill you).

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  9. Vaporware? Not on LSI Logic site by Animats · · Score: 3, Interesting
    There's no mention of this on the LSI Logic site.

    Nantero isn't publicly held, though, so this isn't a stock hype.

  10. If only ... by torpor · · Score: 5, Interesting

    only needing one ... more people thought like this, about lots of things.

    but alas, what will more likely happen is 'consumericans' and other dis-world orders will 'drive the demand' up for super hi-res video, and we'll all be having HDTV Home Video dumps to sony-marketed 'nano-bricks' ... and you'll still be needing piles and piles of 'media' around, for those moments.

    things will just get 'prettier' and 'waaay bigger', the functions will stay the same ... and so will the markets.

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  11. Publicly held...sort of! by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Nantero itself is not publicly held, nevertheless Harris and Harris has significant holdings in Nantero, and they are traded as TINY

    So while not a pure play on a single stock, it can still suffer from some of the volatility generated in the market environment.

  12. Re:Because by jmulvey · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Because the "new, new economy" business model is to make it difficult for customers to use your product, and then sue the pants off anyone that tries to help them.

    Accordingly, I expect Slashdot to receive a subpoena shortly to determine who the above poster is -- Because he has now violated the DMCA by "bypassing an encyption technology" !

    Yippee! A new revenue stream for Nantero !!!

  13. Re:Press release, sans PDF by QuantumRiff · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Because they don't like handicapped people, especially the blind.. I recently attended a seminar on web access for the disabled, and it was an eye opener. There is no good tools (screenreaders) to read PDF's, and adobe has had their project on the back burner for the last few years.. I have now dropped most of the PDF use at our company.

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  14. Re:Space is never enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Well, I remember reading in those sci-fi novels about people fixated on recording everything that happened to them...video 24 hrs/day. And then the loopiness that happens when you record yourself watching old recordings of yourself watching old recordings of ... you get the idea.
    That would be a good use for really cheap, dense, portable low-power memory. (And no, I didn't RTFA yet.)

  15. Re:what about it's environmental effects by Pendersempai · · Score: 3, Interesting
    how about if it is left in the environment, or becomes airborne and is inhaled, or is accidentally ingested??

    How about current computer components? There's plenty of toxic stuff already in your computer -- the trick, as it has always been, will be: don't leave it in the environment, don't snort it, don't eat it.

    If you can handle that with current computers, you're probably good to go for nanotubular memory.

  16. First Post: Redundant? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Gotta love the moderators:

    Moderation +5
    70% Informative
    20% Redundant
    10% Insightful

    It's a first post! (And yes, I'm kinda proud of that, for some twisted reason.) How can a first post be "Redundant"? And it looks like at least two moderators thought so. Strange... wish I got a moderation report for anonymous posts so I could count the votes.

    Here's another one: how can a repost of a company press release be "Insightful"? But I'll grant the mods a pass for that simple mistake... and if someone will finally give me mod points, I might even quit whining!

  17. Nanotubes not ready for prime time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    As of 2 years ago, some of the world's best researchers on this field gave talks, which I attended, indicating that nanotubes remain fiendishly difficult to manipulate. Nothing I have read since then indicates otherwise.

    Progress is being made such as at IBM, hence the commercial interest, but it's not particularly close to being ready for prime time. Basically nobody knows hot to get nanotubes in the right place other than by "hand" with an AFM and nothing less will get you a transistor for memory.