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WIPO Broadcast Treaty Creates New Legal Rights for Broadcasters

An anonymous reader writes "WIPO (The World Intellectual Property Organization) created by the UN is now creating a new copyright for 'broadcast transmissions' giving broadcasters ownership of the content that they broadcast (even if the program being broadcast is in the public domain). IP Justice has created a Top 10 List of reasons to reject this proposal and has published a detailed report that dissects the proposal from a civil liberties and freedom of expression point of view." See our previous story for more information.

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  1. Also see by JamesD_UK · · Score: 5, Informative

    See the Union for the Public Domain. We're also working on these issues and have summaries of WIPO proceedings and an analysis of the treaty.

  2. Re:WPDO by Lotharjade · · Score: 2, Informative

    AMEN brother.

    Also this needs to also go and cover the situation between radio stations and record companies. Do you know that radio stations have to PAY the record companies per song, despite the fact that the stations is doing multiple services for the record company. They track songs, tell which are good, provide free advertising for the cd, and usually provide encouragement for people to buy the CD's.

    This new WOFO group would make it free for radio stations to use ANY song as long as they provide those services mentioned above!

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  3. Sound and Light! by alficles · · Score: 2, Informative
    "Broadcasting" means the wireless transmission to the public of sounds and/or images, including transmissions via satellite or other radio waves that propagate freely in space.
    Wireless transmission would indeed cover everything you say. Not only that, you are reflecting lightrays from about your person. Outlaw mirrors!
  4. What the treaty actually says... by AaronGTurner · · Score: 5, Informative
    It gives broadcasters the option to copyright their particular transmission of a work. They do not gain any retereospective copyright over works in the public domain as a whole, simply their transmission of it.

    Really this isn't much different from a record company deciding to produce a CD of work so old that it is out of copyright. They would have copyright on the arrangement of bit on the CD, but not on the underlying work. This treaty seems to be an attempt to bring things into line with this, to be honest.

    Or alternatively you can take a copy of a Dickens novel and reproduce the words (since they are out of copyright) but you can't simply photocopy a recently printed copy of the novel and distribute that without breaching copyright.

    1. Re:What the treaty actually says... by Audacious · · Score: 2, Informative

      I believe that is not quite correct. I believe the correct interpretation is:

      You can take an "ancient" copy (as in one of the original copies) of Dickens' novel and reproduce it yourself. However, a recently printed copy of the same novel can also be reproduced without the printing company having any recourse to your doing so.

      The reason is that the work has fallen into the public domain. Anyone can use it as they see fit. This means that anyone can reproduce the work in full or in part but the person who reproduces it does not gain the right to limit, in any way, shape, or form, anyone else's right to use the work as well.

      Similar to the Free and Open Source movement. Of course, you should always give credit where credit is due (ie: to BOTH Mr. Dickens as well as the printing house) - but that is left up to the person and they can (and probably would be) ridiculed by everyone for not having done the proper thing.

      Legally speaking though - I do not think you can be sued in any way, shape, or form if you use a book which has fallen out of copyright and/or make copies of said book.

      This is one of the reasons why these books are produced so cheaply. So you will not be tempted to photocopy the thing. It is cheaper to just buy another copy of the book.

      For instance: "A Tale of Two Cities", by Charles Dickens. On Amazon.com: $4.95. 371 pages.

      Kinko's cost per page: $0.05.

      371 * 0.05 = $18.55

      You can buy four of the books for the same price it would cost to photocopy the book once.

      As always - this is just my interpretation of the copyright laws and are not meant to be construed as legal council. It is, instead, just like my saying "My momma said <blah>". You can use it, lose it, or go read the rules and regulations yourself as the case may be. I try to stick to what I've read but you may have interpreted what I read differently than what I read it to mean. So be it! God speed. I ANAL. :-)

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  5. Re:I get it now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    The constitution always superscedes any international treaty. The order is this:
    1) Constitution
    2) Treaty approved by both president and congress
    3) Law passed by Congress
    4) Treaty approved only by president

  6. Re:I get it now by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 5, Informative

    However, international treaty is held to supersede the constitution, thus conveniently bypassing any constitutional protections in place.

    In what dreamworld? the constitution is the supreme law. International treaties themselves are just paper - it is only local laws that implement those treaties that hold any force, and they are also subject to the constitution.

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  7. Re:I get it now by MenTaLguY · · Score: 3, Informative

    I used to think that, but someone corrected me and I did some research.

    In reality, treaties are given equal precedence with federal law (in case of conflict, whichever treaty or law was ratified/passed most recently takes priority).

    The Constitution has higher precedence than either treaties or federal law.

    The bigger problem is that we've gotten very, very sloppy about enforcing the Constitution as written.

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  8. IP Justice physics by srleffler · · Score: 2, Informative

    I wish, in criticizing WIPO's physics, that IP Justice had at least gotten their own physics right. In #2 on their top 10, and elsewhere on the site, they complain that broadcast signals cannot become "fixed" since "broadcast signals exist only in the air and dissolve upon reaching [solid] matter". This is bullshit. I am a physicist. Broadcast signals (e.g. RF) pass right through many solid materials. They are absorbed by other materials to varying degrees. They certainly do not "dissolve" on contact with solid matter, however. By criticizing supposedly-bad physics from WIPO with bad physics of their own, IP Justice just lowers their own credibility.

  9. Background on WIPO by bigberk · · Score: 3, Informative

    The WIPO Copyright Treaty was internationally developed back in a time when people, especially politicians, had no grasp of how digital data was an integral part of the modern world. The Internet, and copying of files, was seen as something awfully scary which threatened companies. Old white men fear change, and in 1996 the Internet looked like a pretty wild frontier. WIPO demands that digital data be treated specially, which IMHO is a big mistake. Everything we do these days relies on digital media and copying, an inherent action of computers and networks.

    The WIPO was ratified in the United States to create the DMCA, which you all know and love. The similar EU laws, which are just as bent as the US's DMCA, also came from WIPO.

    Now Canada is looking at bringing the WIPO, i.e. their own version of the DMCA, into Canadian copyright law. Terrible idea - visit this site if you want to learn more, and exert political pressure to stop this from happening.

  10. No, copyright is a multi-layered thing by blorg · · Score: 2, Informative

    You would not own rights to the song, but you would own rights to the broadcast; copyright can have many layers with different people holding the rights to the different layers.

    It's analogous to the copyright a printer has in the typesetting of a book. You are infringing copyright if you photocopy a recently typeset Penguin Classic of a public domain work, but not if you transcribe it. You can however photocopy older published books at your leisure.

    Another example: Dangermouse infringed on both the Beatles and Jay-Zs copyright in creating the Grey Album but he still holds copyright on that work, e.g. the Beatles or Jay-Z could not just decide to appropriate it and sell it themselves (without his permission).