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Ming + PHP5 + AI = Pretty

cyberscribe writes "Project K++ just released its first alpha version today. The project aims to explore computer-generated abstract art using PHP and Ming. The name of the project is an homage to Wassily Kandinsky, father of abstract art. Caution: the Flash movies can be intensive on your graphics card. Other caution: hitting reload to see the next cool computer-generated abstract 'painting' can be highly addictive."

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  1. Re:art? by Xiph · · Score: 5, Insightful

    however, the work of programmers who created it could be considered art, the big difference from a painting is that this art is interactive.
    the work isn't just the one image, it's the whole thing.

    Remember that the algorithms that makes it have been created by someone, and probably tweaked a bit too.
    all this tweaking and coding is not that much different to molding a shape out of clay.

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  2. Re:art? by prockcore · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Art isn't about being pretty. Art is about emotional, spiritual communication between an artist, his culture, work of art, and public.

    And you're saying this isn't? The artist is the programmer. His communication is the flash and how you interact with it.

  3. Seems like it would be better as a Ming example... by Granos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The project itself really doesn't impress me. All the K++ people did was use a random number generator to generate colors, gradients, curve coordinates, circles, etc. The actual cool part (Dynamically genereated fully functional Flash movies through PHP) was all the work of the Ming library coders. This is akin to someone creating a spinning rainbow colored 3D cube in OpenGL or someone applying a ton of Photoshop filters to a cool picture of the sky. It looks nice to someone who doesn't know how it was made, but in reality, all of the challenging and innovative things were done by the person who programmed the library, not the person who used some very basic implementation of the library.

  4. Re:art? by malfunct · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Unless I'm totally missing something I had a program that did the exact same thing on my TRS-80 coco 2, nothing I'd consider amazing.

    If someone could explain what makes this so groundbreaking maybe I'd have a better appreciation of it.

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  5. Where's the AI? by amacedo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I seriously fail to spot the AI in this.

    Random number generation is more likely, but I doubt any AI techniques are needed or applicable to this.

  6. Re:Poor Abstract Artists by linzeal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Abstract was always the lowest common denominator. Look at some real Abstract Art and compare, the lowly generated stuff to me is no better than a winamp visualization. Sure it can pump out as much visual stimuli as you will allow but what does any of it mean? Abstraction of thought still requires recognition of said thought in the first place or it is mere bullshit or automated bullshit. The human element in art is far from gone, computer generated music and visual arts have always fallen short imho.

  7. What about my 3d abstracts? by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lest anyone think that is good abstract art, come take a look at my site. I computer-generate 3d abstracts. Also, I paint, draw and sculpt, and have been doing so since my youth. Now I have a degree in Fine Art, but still, you should be careful to just patently state that what you are doing is "pretty", because that is a relative term. What does it mean? What is the purpose? To attempt to generate an interesting composition, right? So why not generate it, decide it's interesting, and then show us that one? Why do we all have to sit through 999 bad ones to get to one good one?

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